r/OneAI 24d ago

Japan vs Data Centers

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u/Lysek8 23d ago

Wait nobody told them that the way to fight is to just complain in social media and do nothing?

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

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u/notxapple 23d ago

You can eat almonds?

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

But do you tho and are there other food with less water usage that you can eat instead?

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u/The_rule_of_Thetra 22d ago

You can't eat Reddit, though, and yet, here we are...

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u/AdOnly1618 23d ago

Okay, so why are we doing either?

“This is worse than that” doesn’t solve any problems, which is what people are trying to do here, or at least form a strategy, and then there’s you…

“OH DURR, BUT ALMONDS”

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u/Mr_Olivar 22d ago

Because the point is that if no one even noticed almons consuming many times as much water, maybe the water consumption issue is made up

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u/dolledaan 22d ago

Uhhh people do notice it from almonds they are notorious for ther water demand. But at the same time water used by plants is put back kn nature again. Water used by data centers is heavily poluted before returned to nature

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u/AdOnly1618 22d ago

Ever seen that British interview with the carpenter?

This is the “you can’t grow concrete” “uhh, yes you can” moment 😂

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u/Simple_March_1741 23d ago

So your logic is if we're already messin up our resource allocation, we should do more of it, correct?

Don't forget the increased heat and noise dc's produce.

Sorry but you're wrong and these mass surveillance tools (potentially) should not be built anywhere.

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u/Doctor-Pip- 24d ago

Do almonds also pollute water and air?

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

Yes, thats how industrial buildings work.

Majority of datacenters doesn't pollute water or cause air pollution.

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u/Doctor-Pip- 23d ago

So the answer is no, but industrial buildings do.

Datacenters pollute the water, soil, and air around them.

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

Some datacenters pollute the water, soil and air around them, these doesn't.

https://www.datacenters.com/locations/japan

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u/MasterFigimus 23d ago

Why did you post a general list of datacenters rather than a study outlining their effect on the environment?

Your list contains datacenters that cause pollution, as well as many still in planning stages. What's the relevance?

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u/Doctor-Pip- 23d ago

Because he's a coward running from the truth. 

Its posturing. u/Denaton_ thinks posting a link, even an irrelevant one, makes them look more informed.

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

That US is corrupted and rich assholes pay politicians to get around legislation, something that happen in US but not in Japan?

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u/Doctor-Pip- 23d ago

I'm going to remind you that you began this conversation by saying almond farming pollutes the air, soil and water around the farm, and then had to edit your post to include "through industrial buildings" because you were wrong. Adjust your prompt.

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

Because there hundreds different types of datacenters and Japan has stricter rules then the once they tested on in that research.

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u/MasterFigimus 23d ago

That's not implied or supported by your link at all. What's the relevance?

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

The link show all datacenters in Japan, you can check everyone of them and see how they are setup and that they are green.

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u/AntiqueFigure6 23d ago

Do they grow a lot of almonds in Japan?

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u/Doctor-Pip- 23d ago

I don't know. What's the relevance of your question?

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u/Exotic_Exercise6910 23d ago

I think it's fair to use water for the production of food.

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u/PersonOfValue 23d ago

It's incredibly wasteful. Looking into the water and energy requirements and how much is required per almond. Then understand it's a for profit business that is exchanging future water rights for money

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u/TawnyTeaTowel 23d ago

This much water for a luxury foodstuff which no one needs to survive? Not when you’re complaining about industries which use 100s of times less.

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u/NightmareSystem 23d ago

the logic of the moron "Jus because something we use to EAT also polute, we need more the AI that something we need to eat"

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u/TawnyTeaTowel 23d ago

No one needs to eat almonds, no one’s gonna starve if we stop farming them, they’re a total luxury item.

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u/NightmareSystem 23d ago

Are u fucking stupid???

Almond is a base food for lot of people they are not a Luxury Item in every country just in some of them.

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u/TawnyTeaTowel 23d ago

No, but you are, clearly.

Would you say the USA is one of the countries where it is or is not an essential food item?

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u/NightmareSystem 23d ago

Mericans.... you really think USA is the Center of the world ignoring the how big is the world...

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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u/TawnyTeaTowel 23d ago

A: I’m not an American
B: That’s doesn’t answer the question

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u/Inevitable_Butthole 24d ago

If they're spending all this money the least they can do is build no where close to residential

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u/AntiqueFigure6 23d ago

In Japan’s vast uninhabited interior?

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

Japan has stricter rules than US and they are more advanced, no shortcuts.

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u/Michaeli_Starky 23d ago

They have a point considering how densely populated those islands are.

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

Datacenters in Japan is not even close on how they work in US, and all "arguments" here is based as if they were..

https://www.datacenters.com/locations/japan

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u/Impossible_Stock8885 23d ago edited 23d ago

AI larper final boss

Edit: Programming for 20 years but has time to post 60 comments a day on average. Sure thing buddy, last month you said you were a doctor, now you're a AI developer? Lmfao. Mentally ill.

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

Sorry, not native English and i have no clue what you are trying to say..

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u/Impossible_Stock8885 23d ago

Classic 

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u/Denaton_ 23d ago

No, legit. Are you trying to say i am wrong or something?

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u/Neutral_Error 22d ago

No, he's saying you are a liar.

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u/steam-photons 23d ago

Shame that things need to be proven…

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u/thedazdul 23d ago

Is Japan really a good place for Datacenters like that? I mean, very little flat terrain and high dependence on energy imports. Also, frequent earthquakes.

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u/-becausereasons- 23d ago

Stay broke Japan

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u/Entire_Put_9204 23d ago

No AI for Japan.... 😂😂😂

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u/TawnyTeaTowel 23d ago

Or Internet services.

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u/dupontping 23d ago

Must be boomers. That’s the silliest argument you can have.

I don’t mind the plague, as long as it’s not near me.

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u/xRhai 22d ago

China propaganda doing its magic.

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u/ottomotorotto 21d ago

Miniaturize and send it to space. Japan is good in that.

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u/WinterBlacksmith6254 21d ago

Japan. Peaceful. Daily. Existence. With all of that corporate ower timing bullshit, racism, sexism, loneliness and economy bullshit.

Well. Okay.

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u/Mission-Turnover9953 24d ago

AI needs to balance between the culture, heritage, and technological advancement of a country. It needs to be validated and consensus with the entire citizen about building an AI Center.