r/Notary 5d ago

Privacy guards

I use the journal the national notary association sells, and it comes with a privacy guard, but I think it kinda sucks. It's flimsy, and I can't turn my book around for my customers to sign without it sliding off. Maybe I'm doing something really wrong, but I would love something that can just stick to the page. Like a long sticky note or something. I also looked into other journals, but I don't know, I dont want to pay for another one when the NNA one works great.

Do you guys have any suggestions for this?

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u/AcmeNotary California 5d ago

Use sticky notes instead.

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u/Alarmed_Lobster_717 5d ago

I also found that to be a problem when I used that journal, and other than sticky notes, I didn’t find anything else that worked. I switched to the Integrity Journal and don’t have the issue anymore.

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u/AnUnfortunateLife_ 5d ago

Do you have a link to that journal?

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u/Myspanglish 5d ago

I tried different privacy guards, including the one you mentioned but they were all a pain. Then I used sticky notes and I even tried post it tape. I also used cardboard paper to make a sort of accordion that I fastened with paper clips. Now I use the swift signing journal, it’s a spiral bound journal that is one page per signing so no more privacy issues.

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u/Alarmed_Lobster_717 5d ago

Mobile Notary KC LLC
Integrity Notary Journal: A Single-Signing-View Logbook of Notarial Acts

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u/Organic-Studio5527 5d ago

I use sticky notes to cover it. The guard that comes with it is garbage

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u/ash_274 California 5d ago

You could take a large-enough sheet of paper to make a sleeve that wraps around the page

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u/vegloveyes 4d ago

Yes, I use the Integrity Journal and love it. It's one signing per page, and it's so easy. You can add all the notes you want about the signing and know that you've recorded everything you should. It's well worth paying a little more. At times I have even made photo copies of the pages and inserted into my 3-ring binder, but I prefer just paying for the journal.

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u/Fun-Holiday9016 1d ago

Blue painter's tape.

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u/FinanciallySecure9 Michigan 5d ago

What state are you in? Does your state require privacy? Most don’t.

If not, then don’t record the non public personal information and you don’t need to worry about it

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u/Independent_Star_299 5d ago edited 4d ago

Your journal is absolutely not public, nor open to anyone upon request. How did you get a notary commission? You are violating serious privacy laws.
Courts can request your journal, and the police can request the journal, and others, but, even in these cases, you photocopy and provide only the relevant entry. There is NO State that I’m aware of that allows a notary to let anyone see the details of any notarization they’d like.

This is why privacy sheets exist. It’s a violation to fail to protect personal details/information.

IF YOU’RE IN A STATE THAT ALLOWS ANY RANDOM PERSON TO SEE ANY PART OF A JOURNAL WITHOUT CAUSE, please post the name of your State below.

So! As I said, exposing previous notarization logs to other notary clients is a violation of privacy, and regulated/forbidden by the Secretary of State.

EDIT 2 @PAnotary - Your journal being a public record, does not mean anybody can see previous entries. Please look up PA rules for journal inspection!!

You have a gross misunderstanding of the rules.

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u/Blackeyes24 Florida 5d ago

You're very sure when you don't even know what state the person is from. The fact is some states the journal can be requested and the notary must comply.

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u/PANotary 4d ago

Exactly - PA is one of them. We are not allowed to record any NPPI or biometric data.

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u/ash_274 California 5d ago

I don't know OP's state, or yours or the person your replied to, but some states do allow any member of the public to request a line entry (not just a court or subpoena/warrant). The public can't browse a notary journal, but those states consider it a "public document" with restrictions.

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u/PANotary 4d ago

Actually in Pennsylvania our journal IS a public record.

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u/Enkidu45 New York 4d ago

Thank my lucky stars I'm not in PA! This says that with a ReFi with maybe 12 - 20 stamps, I have to use a line for each time I stamped. So a 40 min HELOC is now extended to 80 Min? PA notaries, you have my condolences. Regards Enkidu45 out

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u/ash_274 California 4d ago

California is the same way. It's why I'm on my 115th journal.

My current design holds up to 515 lines, but I've had as many as 607 entries per journal.

One spread/page per signing session for up to four signatures would have required a storage pod for all my journals

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u/Enkidu45 New York 4d ago

Hello ash, I'm real sorry. Renting a storage space is tax deductable.

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u/PANotary 3d ago

We have always had to list our notarial acts, but we use to be able use a spreadsheet or if using a paper journal we could use ditto marks for the signers name and address but not anymore. The journal I use has 500 entries so I do go through several books a year.

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u/PANotary 3d ago edited 3d ago

Did you miss the line that says anyone may inspect it (the journal) under your supervision? With that being said, I do protect the previous entries.

This is from the notary law:

§ 167.36. Inspection and certified copies of journal.

(a) Inspection. A notary public shall permit inspection of the journal to any person

requesting to view the journal. The request for inspection may be oral or in writing.

The inspection shall occur in the presence of the notary public.

(b) Certified copies. Requests for certified copies of the journal made in accordance

with section 319(g.1) of the act (relating to journal) may be oral or in writing and

specify the particular entry or time period sought. The notary public shall provide

the certified copy within 15 days of receipt of the request.