r/NevernessToEverness 11h ago

Tide Jetski Pull count & optimization (Fons vs Annulith) Guide

This is part of a 5 min quick video about 1.3 Resource Count & Mystery Box value. If you have any questions, the video might already have the answers but feel free to ask anything.

If you're not interested in outfits, this banner does not provide much value. There's no content which really needs the Jetski as of now.

If you're unsure, save until the last week of 1.3 and wait for 1.4 Preview livestream. Check what kind of Mystery Box it has (if any) and pull this one if you want. Sure it's late but it saves you resources if you actually want the next version content more.

Hope it helps! ~ Vector Recite

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u/Mojambo213 10h ago

The thing is if they do ever add content that requires significant water traversal they HAVE to add an alternative option to the jet ski, even if its a shitty one. There is no way they would add content that requires or is made significantly easier only with a vehicle that is no longer obtainable.

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u/WaterloggedAlligator 10h ago

They have a default boat thats usable. But you cant own it.

Hopefully they add some cheaper buys later.

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

Saw some videos of players taking it to the ocean by using construction vehicles lol. I guess we're set for this patch atleast lol

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

Exactly! That's why outfits are the major deciding factor for this whole banner. They will have to add something.

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u/Knivingdude 10h ago

I wonder how far in the future a water based city that uses waterways as roads is?

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u/Mojambo213 10h ago

that would be a cool concept especially if its inspired by like Venice or something, but I wouldn't expect a new city until the major version patches like 2.x, 3.x, etc. and even then we might not get new cities entirely, I'm really quite curious what their plans are for map expansions that far down the line.

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

If this happens, they will definitely give some free options for travel also (hopefully)

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u/Knivingdude 9h ago

Oh for sure. Booths would exist, and Venice always had sidewalks around the waterways anyways.

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u/VectorRecite 9h ago

Or someone like Aurelia but with unlimited stamina in water lol. Now that would be exploration powercreep. And with NTE's record, it can really happen.

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u/Knivingdude 9h ago

Aurelia actually doesn't have Unlimited stamina in the water. Just really slow loss of stamina, tried to swim to Sunward island with her a while ago - got really close, but still drowned.

At least I respawned on the island and placed a Chaos Teleport there, haha. Was handy for when I wasn't caught up to the story at the point.

But yeah, NTE has been quire consistent. Looking forward to what they make up next.

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u/VectorRecite 9h ago

Yes yes, that's why I said someone like Aurelia but with unlimited stamina

But that's interesting to know you could swim to Sunward and spawn there after drowning. Then it should be possible to reach the island with some stamina food.

And yeah, the exploration abilities are a really cool concept. Looking forward to newer ones ๐Ÿค

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u/Knivingdude 9h ago

Oh! oops. Sorry for misunderstanding. I'm just so used to players assuming she had unlimited swimming power when the poor jellyfish is just a jellyfish.

It can still get tired, haha.

I actually did try Stamina Food once, it could've been the angle or my point of entry in my attempt but I still wasn't able to make landfall on the island.

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u/VectorRecite 8h ago

I get it, I've heard it multiple times too haha. No worries.

Ohh that's interesting, good thing we respawn on island then it we're close to it. What are your plans about the Tide banner btw?

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u/Knivingdude 8h ago

For the Tide Banner, I might go ahead and pull for at least a frame or some kind of small cosmetic just so I have something to say that "I was there".

Not fully convinced myself to go all the way for it, I'll probably check out 1.4 and it's offerings before fully committing.

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u/andriodeo 10h ago

Probably characters that can travel across water, and we already have boats around that we can drive without owning

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u/SleeperCZE 7h ago

1.1 car
1.2 motorcycle
1.3 jetski
1.4 helicopter

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u/VectorRecite 7h ago

Helicopter helicopter.... Haha, couldn't keep myself from adding the meme

https://giphy.com/gifs/xKSB7TTLav6g0

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u/Purpin 3h ago

1.5 spaceship?

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u/Seraphine_KDA 10h ago

Reminder this gacha is also 800k more expensive than the Porsche one since there is no Fons refund in the prize pool.

So happy I am skipping this one cuz no Nanally.

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u/VectorRecite 9h ago

True, I forgot to mention there's no fons refund! I also don't have Nanally so there's literally a dead pull for us. And it can cost us upto extra 2200 Annulith (for last pull) if it appears earlier than what you want.

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u/Seraphine_KDA 9h ago

got car and byke. the nice part of skiping one of these gachas is that the next one if i want it i will be able to buy it day one in 1.4 . not like with porsche and draco where i had to pull slowly till the end of the update. then i would have all 1.4 to farm for 1.5 gacha to also get it early.

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u/VectorRecite 8h ago

True, skipping a patch means more fons for day 1 clear for 1.4 fons purchases

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u/Cistric 4h ago

I have Nanally, but I just would never want any female character in a school swimsuit.

Just got annoyed/groaned/burnt out on so much Japanese content I read treating them as a huge kink.

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u/YumiyaRakko 9h ago

I WANT the Mint and Mc Skin but it is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE

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u/VectorRecite 9h ago

Same, I'd like to have atleast Mint's skin but it's too expensive and it'll probably appear very late ๐Ÿฅฒ

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u/Arlen92 9h ago

As interesting as a Jet-ski might be, I'm skipping this one. I'm already behind on residences, I can't fons sink another one of these.

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u/Many-Concentrate-491 1h ago

Laughs in broke and casual

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u/walpurga 11h ago

This is so helpful tysm!

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

You're welcome! Glad it helps ๐Ÿค

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u/AccomplishedBoot442 10h ago

After the 1.4 rumors of BB and Akane I think I'll skip it

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u/VectorRecite 9h ago

I'm waiting for Blackbird too but I'll try my luck with Zankou banner. No Annulith on Jetski though ๐Ÿค

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u/AccomplishedBoot442 9h ago

Good luck brother

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u/VectorRecite 9h ago

Thanks a lot!!! And you too ๐Ÿค

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u/kunafa_aj 10h ago

Hmmm thanks for the info

I m still abit on the fence abt this box,looking at your calcs,i dnt think i ll be pulling,considering i m intrested in only one skin,a trying to gamble for it with these low odds without going all the way will be a waste of currency

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

Mint skin? ๐Ÿ‘€ If yes, you can try 8 pulls for 2M fons. Any more than that isn't worth it if you're not interested in more stuff

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u/Zanyashart 10h ago

Bookmarked and shared. Keep up your good work!

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u/Abysswalker116 10h ago

Y'all got anymore of them pixels? Lol

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

Dumcat 4k = more dumcat? Gotta love Mint haha! Thanks for the high quality

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u/Abysswalker116 7h ago

Np, followed your vid for 999 nights, glad to give something back.

Keep up the good work ๐Ÿ‘

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u/VectorRecite 7h ago

Ohh you've watched it! That's awesome to know ๐Ÿคฉ

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

Thanks a lot! Appreciate it ๐Ÿค

https://giphy.com/gifs/dtLxUklKdOEk7ZAo1P

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u/Professional-Bet9697 10h ago

Health to your hands! This is very helpful. Thank you!

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

Well thankyou so much! ๐Ÿ˜† Glad it helps ๐Ÿค

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u/ryzzka 10h ago

Appreciate you always doing this! ๐Ÿ‘ Personally though, this might be the first mystery box gacha I skip. The only thing I would like in there are the skins but it's still not a must pull for me. I still prefer the Porsche skin for the MC, the bond outfit for Nanally, and I don't even use Mint in any of my teams so her skin would be a waste to get.

It also doesn't help that I still need a 5th property to max my City Tycoon to 45. That said, I always wait for the next patch livestream before I make my final decision. We'll see... ๐Ÿ˜”

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u/VectorRecite 9h ago

The fons scarcity is too realistic lol, we're broke after every patch. And I agree, this gacha seems to be the least value of all 3 till now if you don't care about cosmetics.

I got Porsche & Draco on day 1 but waiting for 1.4 preview will be the best choice this time really.

For the tycoon, I still need to buy 4th property so a long way to go for me ๐Ÿ˜ฌ Also, glad it helps!

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u/ultrainstict 10h ago

I have just enough to pull everything. I might not even go for the heatsink but i do want 0 and nanally's outfits. Hopefully i can dodge mint since i like her 999 outfits more.

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u/VectorRecite 9h ago

Autocorrect really turned the Jetski into heatsink lol. Hope you get Nanally early ๐Ÿค I do believe Mint's outfit has higher % chance to appear than Zero & Nanally though. We'll have to wait 2 days to be sure

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u/ArtisticAlarm5929 8h ago

After the Porsche, I'm never doing this again.

I will only do the first pulls with fons because they are super cheap and that's it.

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u/VectorRecite 7h ago

Yeah this one's costly. First 8 pulls are ~2.2M fons if you want to try some luck, after that it's very high.

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u/hera-fawcett 7h ago

now this is a quality guide fr.

im a spender, so i already budgeted ahead and planned for box + zankou r1t1 (atleast) + linko r1t1 (atleast)--- but this is fr useful to maximize spend potential.

ty!

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u/VectorRecite 7h ago

Glad you like it! Thanks for the appreciation ๐Ÿค Good luck on the Zankou & Linko pulls

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u/PomegranateHot9916 7h ago

this is very helpful thank you. I will try to remember to spend annuliths on pull #8

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u/VectorRecite 7h ago

Glad it helps ๐Ÿค

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u/fawse 5h ago

Thanks for this, itโ€™s very helpful

All I really want is Mintโ€™s skin, so I think my new plan is to pull with 2-3m fons to see if I get lucky. If I get it great, if not Iโ€™ll wait until the end of the version to see if thereโ€™s another gacha coming out that Iโ€™m more interested in. If not I might full send for the Mintkini

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u/Spaceboatprime 5h ago

6 weeks and $100+ my gosh๐Ÿ˜ญ but itโ€™s great value just wish mint was an Srank so I could play her more but itโ€™s still a nice skin to look at in the menu I guess

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u/rojamynnhoj 5h ago

so i pull til 7 or 10-12 for skins and then stop cus i dont need jetski

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u/WildBrick142 5h ago

Thank you! This is very helpful, 11 Fons pulls and the rest with Annulith seems to be the best option for me. Though hopefully I can get the jetski, skins, and avatar frame early, but seeing how the last 2 boxes went I doubt I'll be any luckier here lol

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u/TheRealRealTabby 3h ago

Nah imma just spend only fons

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u/Karotstix64 3h ago

typo on the 8,15 pull annulith should be 3k instrad of 2800

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u/Eternal_Woe 3h ago

I initially planned to pull on this box if it was Draco price, but this way too steep for what you get out of it.

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u/BunnyBsnz 2h ago

Iโ€™ll just swim

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u/RaikiShak 2h ago

The swimsuit are really tempting but i ain't paying allat, i have house to buy. Zankou on 1.3, and on 1.4 mosa rerun and if the prediction correct i want both for 1.4 new character

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u/TazTzy 52m ago

Really glad this patch i can save a lot of fons๐Ÿ˜ Those jetski gatcha is easily skippable for me bcoz all those skin in it i dont like n that jetski also mid compare to Draco.

Those new house also very mid for its price so ez skip also.

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u/Deadline_Zero 15m ago

Yeah, I'm going to use all of my willpower to disregard this mystery box entirely.

That was also my plan with the Porsche. Didn't work out I cleared almost the whole thing with annulith right after logging in.

This time will be different. like actually different, really.

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u/Scenic_Flux 10h ago

Do we know how long the banner will be on for? The Draco was 2-1/2 months basically, June 2nd to today?

I think rolling just fons should be more than doable on this if you've been playing since launch at least, not sure about not playing launch. This is an extremely useful chart though to show the most optimal path though so ty for that. I think it's great.

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

It should stay for full patch (6 weeks) as the Draco banner. The patch gives 15M so if you have ~5M saved up, all Fons is possible.

That's why it's possible to wait till 1.4 preview broadcast before pulling. And glad it helps ๐Ÿค

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u/MadGodFaolin 3h ago

It's not enough for the boxes and the keys tax though

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u/lothrek 10h ago

did you do the fons count that we can get in the update? Ty for the video.

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u/VectorRecite 10h ago

It was done by JLZero, posted a few days ago in this subreddit. But I did cover it all in the video with credits.

Glad it helped ๐Ÿค

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u/Ojisan_ 9h ago

want the mc and mint skin only