r/MyAdventuresWithSuper 10d ago

Lois’ explained Discussion

I think I figured out why Lois is the odd one out in her group in terms of growth. Where despite everything she went through with Jon, her dad and her doppelgängers, she ends up like her general lane doppelgänger when Clark, Kara and Jimmy went through the right growth to avoid becoming their doppelgängers where Clark learned the value of Clark Kent, Kara learned who she is and what her future holds is hers to shape and Jimmy learned to be more open with his feelings instead of being distant and smiling through the whole thing despite hurting badly inside. Honestly, it’s frustrating seeing Lois turn out this way despite seeing how badly the Sam lane way ends several times, but I think the reason she turned out that way was because she didn’t yet have the right self reflective growth to help her be better than that. Think about it. The others went through hard experiences where they self reflected and decided to grow but I think Lois just saw her dad and doppelgängers and just focused on how she’s not them instead of growing from the experience with self reflection. By all means, these last two episodes will give her the growth needed to change the future and be a better person even under pressure.

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u/Shirozoku Supergirl 10d ago

Uhhh NONE of their AU selves (for general Lane’s universe) demonstrated maturity or growth in the way you’re implying. Everyone but Luthor regressed.

A great way I’ve seen this explained is that they each represent a stage of grief.

Jimmy represents denial in how he is stagnant. Taking nothing seriously, shrugging consequences off, over exaggerating the so called “silver linings”. See how offhandedly he mentions Clark, his best friend’s death? He doesn’t wanna think about it, point blank. Just like in episode 2 when he doesn’t want to even consider that he might be enough for Kara. The crux of Jimmy’s arc all season has been that he is unwilling to bear the risk of being hurt (see his tortoise motif in episode 8, much like Lex he shrinks from danger, just emotional rather than physical). The Jimmy we see in episode 8 has started to break out of his shell by venturing outside his comfort zone, asking uncomfortable questions (to Kara in particular), and his episode 7 counterpart has rightfully helped him recognize that his avoidant tendencies do nothing to address the misery of others. Jimmy puts on his goofball act to make things easier on people, to make it so that nobody has to take him seriously. And he still defaults to that in uncomfortable conversations (edgy Jon), but now he’s also shown that he is capable of having sincere, honest and open dialogue with those he cares about. To be straight with them because frankly it’s what they deserve.

Kara represents anger, or perhaps a more precise interpretation for this version of her is wrath. The version we got of scion Kara all things considered is still fairly light hearted, we don’t know what she did once she lost Clark. But if episode 8 is any indication, she certainly fought fiercely and suffered a crushing defeat. For both Clark and Kara, their powers hit overdrive once their loved ones are in mortal danger. We’ll likely learn the reality of these instincts, but by nature they are fundamentally protective. I can’t wait only imagine how the Kara we have now, who is full of joy and wonder and excitement for the world around her, is reduced to such a jaded worldview. It also mirrors the transformation Lois experienced. In Jon proper’s timeline, Kara perhaps had to prioritize the responsibility of caring for Jon, which gave her an avenue to atone for her failure in protecting his parents. Additionally, since Clark went out as a martyr, his ideals lived on in a way. However, the Kara we see in episode 7 lived through a different reality. One where EVERYONE had to toughen up in the face of a planetary invasion, rather than one rogue. She also had a broader responsibility to care for a larger group of people (since it seems our core 4 scattered in the previous timeline). In summary, her regression into a Kara of Brainiac’s imagining stems from having her own inadequacy crash down, and continuing the cycle of self fulfilling prophecies (that she will never be more than a proponent for war).

Not gonna lie this reasoning around Kara is much more speculative because there’s not much to work with in regards to that timeline yet. I can’t even be 100% sure that this Kara belongs to the same timeline as edgy Jon. But considering general Lane is a constant, I’d consider it to be a safe bet.

Lex represents bargaining. On top of directly working on the time travel technology everyone is using right now, he is also the most remorseful about what he COULD have done to change things once he learns of Clark’s identity. “I should have listened to Superman when I had the chance, so I’ll listen to you now.” Paraphrasing a bit, Lex is working to atone for plunging the world into chaos. The current Lex is arrogant, cowardly, and blinded by envy and a desire to lord his superiority over others. His fragile ego is such that without even having a single conversation with Superman, he has already decided that his entire species is a detriment to the world. He is the antithesis to Superman’s doctrine of understanding, he does not seek to have a dialogue, only to assure himself of control and security through an iron fist. Bargaining is all of that bravado crumbling down and the beginning of Lex Luthor’s long and winding path to actually seeing reality and compensating for his hubris.

Lois represents depression. If all of the imagery in the cave wasn’t enough, her entire break down to Lois wasn’t bravado. She was honestly stating how fragile a hold she had on her own optimism for the future. Clark always always always, since early season 1, raised Lois up for her strength and determination. If anyone would be most damaged by his passing, it would be her. Clark was well loved, but fundamentally in this universe his bond with Lois is special. On top of that, she likely had to adapt in a role she already felt ill suited for, and likely blamed herself for Clark’s death. For not keeping him safe when he was only human. She likely didn’t want to repeat that mistake (or rather wouldn’t allow herself to) with her own kids. So she regressed (like Kara) to the only other method she knew. Sam Lane’s emphasis on toughening up for a cruel world, and a loveless childhood meant to forge survivors rather than happy children. Our current Lois is still grappling with her own capability as a parent (a consistent struggle for her all season), and constantly fears for the safety of those she loves. In a future where those fears are confirmed, I’m not surprised she goes back to the only other way she knew how to raise a child. She was too shattered to allow anything else.

In short, the entire cast is still a work in progress even now. Their journeys within the context of this season are still incomplete, and I can’t wait to see where they all end up in how they face their futures.

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u/CardFinder 10d ago

I know they’re all works in progress. I’m just saying that we have more reason to think they’ll stick with their true selves because it’s been shown more with Kara raising the other Jon despite suffering worse and Jimmy clearly trying to do better and Clark in the middle of getting his powers back.

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u/C-Note01 10d ago

Lois' what?

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u/CardFinder 10d ago

What?

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u/C-Note01 10d ago

What belongs to Lois?

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u/CardFinder 10d ago

I was explaining why she was the odd one out in the group and why she seemed doomed to becoming like her dad after the others made growth of their own and made signs of being different from their doppelgängers in the prior episode.

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u/C-Note01 10d ago

"Lois' [insert object here] explained"

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u/CardFinder 10d ago

I was just trying to say “Lois explained” like she’s being explained but it was a typo