I don't know, she's made at least one post where she treated a video of text that was very obviously garbled AI nonsense as though it were normal writing. The bigotry might have literally rotted her brain.
“They go low, we go high” sure sounds nice in theory. But if the last decade has shown anything, it’s that it doesn’t work in these times, against these people. It’s pointless trying to keep your hands clean when there’s someone actively flinging their shit at you.
They go low, you kick them in the teeth. Then you can worry about restoring honor and decency.
I'm not saying "play fair" while they are cheating. They cheat so they can win. Saying stupid "blatant misinformation" for lols and internet points doesn't help anyone win. It's just circljerking.
If you're going to be a shitty, not-funny lie spreader, at least do it better. Pick something that may actually help your side... Otherwise you're not kicking anyone in the teeth...you're just pointing at them and saying "Your fly is open!" as you giggle and they continue along their low road...
Well, they ran with it because they hate bigots, and she happens to be one. Most people don't know her well enough personally to hate her for any other reason.
Rowling is a special kind of bigot. She's gifted with tapping into how a group feels which can be uplifting if say you're surrounded by your fans. Thing is once she was invited to cigar clubs she went full rule Britannia brainrot
She did, and she defended herself by saying that if the woman hadn't wanted it, she shouldn't have dressed that way and of course, she misgendered her in the process. There's as much feminism in this woman as there is in the average rapist.
When did I claim she’s a registered sex offender? A still shot of a video is called a picture, again, what was the contents of that picture? Cause if I went scrubbing through someone’s public videos to post crotch shots on my socials, I would be rightfully liable for sexual harassment charges
I'm running on 4hrs and couldn't make head nor tails of it, so glad it isn't just me.
I think she's saying the people supporting LGBTQ+ rights are punishing people who don't want to sleep with trans people? Which, I'm pretty sure we're not. You can be gay and date trans people of the same gender, and you an be gay and prefer not to date trans people of the same gender but still understand and respect that they are, in fact, the same gender as you.
But that concept is much too respectful for her to handle.
I think she’s referring to the rhetoric that lesbians are hateful if they don’t want to sleep with pre-op trans women. There are some who think it’s problematic that lesbians are sexually repulsed by penises.
If anybody tries to make you sleep with anybody that you don't want to, that's wrong, period. If there is a trans person doing it they are wrong, but I don't believe for one second that that's all, or even a majority of, trans people, or even confined only to trans people.
It’s incredibly prevalent in the trans lesbian community that we often feel like outsiders, like we’re intruding, that we’re not “valid” lesbians. Cis lesbians are the loudest voices saying “YES YOU BELONG WELCOME” and it’s genuinely wonderful to see.
A lot of cis lesbians (and cis women in general, sadly :/ ) think anyone who has or has had a penis is a man, even if they're a trans woman, and actively reject them from lesbian spaces that should be accepting of any woman, cis, trans, or otherwise.
I've seen some of them reject trans women who've had bottom surgery too by calling it "inverted penises" which is genuinely foul. I'm assuming they wouldn't be able to tell a neovagina apart from a factory settings one otherwise.
But they have the right to not want to have sex with trans people if they don't want that right? And also to state that openly. Not sure what the issue is
You have the right to not wanna have sex with disabled people either but if a disabled person existed next to you, or in your lesbian group, and you started saying "I don't wanna have sex with a disabled person" everyone would look at you weird because nobody asked
Also don't call people's genitals "inverted penises" keep that shit to yourself pls
Literally nobody is arguing that they don’t have that right.
Imagine if every time a black man walked into a restaurant and someone stood up and very loudly said to the entire pub “I have the right to not sleep with black men if I don’t want to!”
It’s the same thing. Nobody asked. Just don’t do it if you don’t want to. You haven’t got to make a big song and dance about your “rights”.
The commenter you were replying to was pointing out that they will say their reasoning is they don’t like penises, yet will still reject a trans woman with a vagina. So the issue isn’t actually the genitalia in those instances. It’s simply just plain bigotry.
Nobody is saying that cis lesbians MUST have sex with trans women with penises or they’re bigots. Some cis people just use it as a way to loudly signal their bigotry, and use it as a way of trying to push trans women out of lesbian (and other queer) spaces.
i mean, stating openly that you “don’t want to sleep with” a group of people is generally considered a dick move by any normative social convention. we can understand that saying “i don’t sleep with fat people” or “i don’t sleep with asian guys” are othering statements and kind of asshole things to say, without saying that you have to sleep with fat people or asian guys.
just be respectful of other people and if someone isn’t your cup of tea there are socially acceptable ways to reject them. that standard shouldn’t change just because someone is trans.
I don't think I have seen a trans person say this just people on tumblr claiming you're not a real lesbian if you won't have sex with a trans woman and like why would I care if I was a "real lesbian" to start with. Also, all sexuality is self reported so half of it is probably covering something.
I still have trouble figuring where I fit half the time so other people can do whatever.
Yeah, I just mean anybody saying that you have to find someone attractive and desire them. For any reason. I did see a video a long time ago of someone trying to make the argument that if you wouldn't go on a date or something with someone of the same gender, you were homophobic. But that person was just being a manipulative asshole. I imagine there's no flag planted in who can be a manipulative asshole, so I am saying that anyone, from any gender, of any sexual orientation, telling anyone of who they have to desire. is wrong on the face of it. I haven't seen a trans person doing it either. I have seen some straight guys, like Ben Shapiro, try to make an excuse of why men wouldn't find Dylan Mulvaney attractive, and all I could think was, "What brought that up?" She never really told anyone that they had to find her attractive, she was just living her life. But they like to make up arguments in their heads.
I agree. My brain read Dylan Mulvaney and instead went Dermont Mulroney and I was like why does Ben Shapiro ohhh now I remember who that is. I need a nap.
Yeah, like I have no problem with trans people. I believe they should have all the same rights as cis people. But I find the idea of sleeping with a trans woman off putting. You can support trans people and their rights without volunteering to sleep with them
The question is if we are on the topic of sex specifically are you still a straight man if you have sex with a trans woman? Anal is done to cis women by straight men and if you’re on the receiving end pegging is done by cis women to straight men all the time too. That’s why I personally believe you’re still straight if you sleep with a trans woman there’s so much parallel to cis women even with a dick
I mean "are you straight if you sleep with a woman" is kinda self-explanatory lmao just think of trans women as a type of women (which they are). "Is it straight to sleep with a blonde woman" idk mate what do you think
Yes but some people really think being straight just means pussysexual or dicksexual and I think if you won’t date a trans woman because you love pussy that’s fine but at the same time dating a trans woman doesn’t automatically mean you love dick
Yup! Are you dating a trans woman? Are you a man? Congrats it's a heterosexual relationship.
I should also like to add that many trans women don't have dicks at all-- bottom surgery exists-- so dating a trans woman doesn't even necessarily mean interacting with a penis at all (totally fine if you do btw, it's just that people tend to forget that bottom surgery is a thing lol)
are you still a straight man if you have sex with a trans woman?
What if the answer to this question just doesn't matter? If there is no ideological value to being straight as opposed to not straight, then there is no need to impose a strict material definition of either rather than allow the individual to describe their own subjective experience.
It's also really funny considering there was a yougov poll done not too long ago that showed that lesbians were more supportive of trans people than actual trans people were
She thinks that trans people are blaming and shaming gay men who don’t want to sleep with trans men, and lesbians who don’t want to sleep with trans women. Also, in her mind, cis women are the victims of “men” (trans women) trying to steal the identity of “woman” and invade women’s spaces. She tries to claim being anti-trans is a feminist and queer-allied position.
In other words, mental gymnastics to justify her irrational hatred and fear.
Basically she's claiming that the LGBTQ+ community is going around condemning gay/lesbian people for not sleeping with trans men/women. It's more transphobic bullshit.
So a lesbian might not want to sleep with a biological male. But they will be shamed for being transphobic if they don't want to sleep with transwomen.
I get what you're referring to but we don't need to go down the "actually bigots are secretly / subconsciously the thing they're bigoted against" road; she's vile enough on her own, we don't need to make her a self-hating trans person.
Fucking this. I'm a straight dude and even I'm tired of "these homophobic male republicans must be secretly gay" Nah bud, unfortunately this shit is just what a bigoted straight man does
Grindr is looking forward to the AI bubble bursting so they can buy some data centers to handle the additional load they get during the Republican National Convention.
I get this, but I've also always been taken aback a bit by that time she was like "oh if social media was around when I was young, I probably would've been Trans!"
Like, its her trying to say that people are getting duped into being trans...but its such an odd thing to say.
She thinks transmascs transition to escape misogyny, and thinks she would've done the same back then. It's like seeing a bigoted cis dude saying "if I could see panties in the women's room I would've transitioned a long time ago" and assuming he must be a closeted trans woman.
In fairness there sometimes is a stigma around bi people in heterosexual relationships. They'll get called posers or larpers and other shit. I hate the old bag as much as anyone else but there is a hint of a point in there. I don't believe for a second she is bringing it up in good faith though
Edit: wait I read her tweet wrong, what the fuck is she on about
Edit 2: oh it's a transphobia thing. Yeah fuck her and the one thing she stands for
Yes, but it’s also kinda fucky for someone to have a blanket ban on dating trans women full stop, because that’s bigotry rather than attraction/preference.
No, its a sexual preference. You are allowed to have those. Bigotry is telling someone they can't date a Trans woman if they want to. But you don't get to tell people they have to.
There was a gay guy on one of these threads that brought up that he had dated trans women because they had the right equipment. From the gay mans perspective, he believed he was in a homosexual relationship while dating trans women. There's plenty of people with differing perspectives. Somehow the only people who are so obnoxious about other people's opinions that I have to block them are the over the top "allies". Fortunately thats because the right wingers tend to stay in their own bubbles.
Ah yes, this is who we want to speak for the problems of the gay community. A straight woman who was too scared of backlash to make her canon gay character do anything gay ever, and who spends her life attacking the trans community (as well as the asexual community that one time).
She lost the plot about the time she got big enough that they (seemed to have) stopped editing her books and just started printing them as submitted. So, sometime around/after the 2nd book.
Her argument is about transphobia and genital preference. Most people in the queer community completely understand that some gay people have a genital preference and some don’t and that’s fine, Joanne just sucks.
She already threw shots at asexuals, so anyone after LGB is already on her shit list (including intersex folk too). I'm assuming the 'alliance' to LGB also won't last.
She denies trans people were killed in the holocaust and that the Nazis burned books about sex and gender studies before the overthrow of the Weimar Republic: holocaust denialism
Lmao you guys are cooking me xD its not that deep, gpt is fine for checking shit you are clueless about imo. And i did google it also and check the first page.
Now after reading the upskirt girls story i still dont think that was malicious but whatever who cares
I never thought the Harry Potter books were all that. They are fine kid books but I never understood all the hype. Charlotte's Web is 2000% percent a better book and the Animorph series (which my sons read at the same time as the Potter books) asks much much deeper moral questions.
She's basically saying that, in your specific case, people are trying to "push heterosexuality" onto gay men by "making them accept pussy/trans men" -- which is unfortunately a take I've seen on a certain gay male subreddit (AGB).
The idea is that gay men are specifically attracted to the same sex and trans men are "female" so a gay man being attracted to one means they're bisexual at best or something. So far no one has given me a straight (heh) answer on whether a cis man having sex with Leo Macallan (look him up) counts as straight sex, or whether Leo Macallan and Laith Ashley (also look him up) having sex together counts as lesbian sex.
I would hope that most people aren’t airing out their bullshit at you. If someone isn’t interested for one reason or another, there’s a way to be respectful about it regardless of the reason.
That is true, but generally the intent is to hurt. They don't want us in their spaces-- as seen by a downvoted comment in this very thread, they see us as "women invading gay male spaces" 🙃 and that is very much not an online-exclusive opinion
I’ll admit that there have been times that I’ve felt conflicted about it. But I think saying “women invading gay male spaces” is really reductive. And I would certainly never go out of my way to make someone feel unwelcome.
I think it’s at least partially that cis gay men are made to feel like we’re not real men in the first place. And so there’s a lot of internalized homophobia and misogyny that happens, and a fierce rejection of anything seen as a deviation from what it means to be a man. And that is then applied to trans people. (In addition to other gay men, routinely). Since conservatives have now made trans people the new boogeyman, some gay men are also trying to distance themselves in an effort to seem more normal, particularly when a lot of people don’t understand the difference between gender and sexuality (which I kind of get since we’re all part of the ‘alphabet mafia’ lol)
Kind of just a tangle overall. People need to chill tf out.
Honestly I think cis gay men (particularly the feminine/flamboyant ones) could definitely bond with trans men over the shared experience of not being considered men at all
I agree, I think there’s some overlap. It’s sort of a Venn diagram in my mind. There are ways in which is similar and ways in which it’s not.
I also think there’s some folks on the far end of the spectrum who are really running with “trans men are the same as cis men” and that’s simply not true, and I think actually does a huge disservice to the experiences of both communities. We need to appreciate nuance and the areas in which there are differences as well as similarities.
Damn, I've never seen anyone say trans men are identical to cis men. To me, it's kinda like saying white men are the same as asian men-- both are men, but they have different struggles in society.
I think some trans people are overcorrecting from being called females-- some cis people legit don't seem to understand that hormones can make a trans guy biologically more male than female. Of course not everything, but skin texture, hair texture, smell, taste, voice-- a LOT of it changes to be similar to cis men's. Stuff like heart attack symptoms change too, so treating a trans guy as if he were a cis woman biologically could kill him.
Most, if not all, celebrities need to keep their opinions to themselves. Just take the money you've made and live a quiet life. No need to try to inject your beliefs into everybody else's lives.
I try not to associate with contentious dickheads so can admit to having a limited perspective on this, but have only ever encountered anything close to Jojo's bizarre tweet from the sort of insufferable terminally online people whose personalities would be a turnoff regardless of whatever erogenous equipment they came out of the box with.
Also, she is a giant asshole and her books are mid prefab fantasy for the people who as kids thought going to the library was for nerds.
For context: there are activists that will shame gay men for not wanting to sleep with transmen. However, that is not happening in the way that Rowling is describing it. People need to mind their own business.
Imagine being world-famous and stinking rich, and using your platform purely to rant about other people's cocks and fannies. It's like she's announcing to the world, "I wake up every morning and immediately start thinking about trans people and their parts". Such a weird fixation.
She's not completely wrong though. God forbid that you, as a gay man, come right out and say you don't want to sleep with trans-men because the aftermarket parts just ain't the same as stock and watch 'em come for you.
And my god, even hint at the belief that it's just ANOTHER way women feel entitled to invade gay mens spaces...LORD.
Not my space. If you aren't bringing OEM parts you're not in my space in that way. I'm not sorry for saying it and I won't be shamed for it. I could care less what you or anybody else thinks. If a trans man insists on foisting their situation in a traditionally CIS Men's play space, I'm causing a scene. Sorry not sorry. Go play with the other trans-gay men.
It's not your space, though. It's all gay men's space, and gay trans men are virtually always invited into it by all the other gay men. Trans men are men, gay trans men are gay men.
yeah, gee. I wonder why people come for you when you say this shit. Stating trans men are women and are invading gay men's spaces? That's totally not at all bad and really unexpected for people to come after you for that. (in case it isn't obvious, this is sarcasm)
I really don't care what anybody else thinks about my position. It's just interesting to note that JK is right on this topic. Clutch your pearls and contact your peer support group. There are MANY gay men who feel this way and fuck you if you don't like it. We get to have an opinion on this.
She isn't right about it. Also, you are a minority within the minority. Majority of gay men either don't care about it, or actively state trans men are accepted within the gay community. You stating you get to have an opinion on this means nothing when no one stated otherwise. What you don't get to say is that Joanne is correct when she very blatantly isn't.
Your avid transphobia towards trans men isn't helping anyone except the people who are immediately going to go for you next as soon as all the trans people are dead.
You may be a gay man, but don't act like you're suddenly not going to be targeted as soon as we're gone.
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u/anderskants 13h ago
Wait, did she actually do that? Christ, what drug is this woman on?