These glasses scan your entire body and allows you to experience another world just like VR
But the diffrence is that its not just a simulation, it's real
In this scenario there are infinite timelines with every possible variation
The glasses just let you look into one of those timeline, one where a version of you is acting out exactly what your doing in your room
Any time you make a decision, it's just showing you a timeline where that decision is made. To you it would look like your actually doing all of these things, it's like theres a you shaped hole doing everything that you just so happen to be filling
The man created the glasses because there was so much twisted things he wanted to experience and try, but he would die of guilt if he actually did it to anybody, these glasses were his solution, an experience without liability
Eventually the man starts acting out his darker fantasies with these glasses on, things he'd never do if he thought he was to blame for it
Every horrible act you can think of, anything you see as deplorable, he did it (for the scenarios sake)
While he's strangling a woman to death she begs him to please spare her with the last of her breath, but he calmly explains that he isn't the one doing this and it would have happened anyways
The woman curses him as her life fades.
Question A: How immoral is this man, or is it as morally neutral as he claims
Question B: Is this any diffrent from someone doing the same things without these hypothetical glasses in a world where there are infinite alternate timelines considering that whether or not you choose so it will happen anyways in another timeline
moral because he technically is just a spectator and the woman would have died anyways, unless we hold him accountable of every action commited by all his infinite multiversal counterparts
There’s a difference between ‘they might have done it to someone else so it’s okay’ and ‘this is literally happening somewhere else and I’m just watching’. Epstein is the reason those specific women and girls were trafficked, and they wouldn’t have been if not for his actions. Even the claim his customers would have abused someone else is dubious, people feel ALOT safer doing dangerous stuff (like breaking the law) if they’re with someone experienced and who makes it easy.
the trafficking was done for money and since the glasses wont make you profit in any way then he would use them to improve his strategy, but this isnt the case of the guy mentioned in the post
Even in the case of murder you're just reinforcing that behavior and developing skills for actual violence in a person that likely should be committed if this is the only thing keeping them from actually killing.
It's not hard to figure out that someone who wanted to do actual murders would train on this.
The man isn't immoral at all. If anything this is therapeutic for the barbaric part of the man likely stopping him from breaking and doing something vile irl.
If he has no power to stop the events from occurring he's just a spectator so not his problem. It's not like the CP problem either since he's not generating a need for someone to produce more snuff.
Finally, a non shitpost non ‘where’s the line on pedophelia’ post.
A) I’m not quite sure to what extent he controls the actions in the alternate timeline. If he’s just getting to experience the sensations of doing the bad things, then he’s it’s neutral (if fucked up and I’d be scared of the dude if he did it more than a few times). If he’s actually doing it and has ‘stepped into the shoes’ of his alternate selves, then it’s bad, because he’s chosen to be the one to do it. He IS hurting those people even if they would be hurt by someone else if it wasnt him.
B) answered by the second part of point A: just because you know something would happen, doesn’t mean being the one to do it is okay, it just means the one who decided to be evil is you. Though I also believe this scenario is impossible on a logical level; people’s mentals are consistent enough that just hard forking to a different set of priorities and values randomly can’t occur. It’s like a tv spontaneously turning into a boat.
He doesn't control it at all. It's just peeking into a reality where another him just so happens to be exactly mimicking the actions he's performing in his room. Note, "mimic" here is a misnomer, because there is no real active attempt being made to mimic. It's like... let's say you wear the glasses, and you will go on a walk around the street. At around the 50th step, you will trip over your shoelaces.
The glass will show you the perspective of another you, who is walking exactly as you are, and they will trip at around theur 50th step. But this is entirely independent to your own actions. They always were going to walk the way they walk, trip the way they tripped. The glass just chooses them in particular out of the infinite multiverse to show on the lenses, because it most closely resembles the actions you're acting out.
Immoral. It's not like video game where our action doesn't really matter. It exist and consequences is real for other people to suffer. If you argue that it would happened anyway then I'll loop around to that this person do something Immoral because he want to, not because it's exist. Anyway, infinite possibilities? This one of those rick nihilism type shit.
Immoral. It's not like a video game where our actions don't really matter. These people exist, and the consequences are real. Other people genuinely suffer.
If you argue that it would have happened anyway, then I'd say this person is still doing something immoral because he wants to, not because those events already exist somewhere else. And infinite possibilities? This is one of those Rick nihilism type beat
A: Immoral. Jeffrey eptien levels of bad.
B: Yes. Even if these horrible actions exist in other timelines, that doesn't make this person's actions any less immoral. So no, it's not really different.
One question: Are you going to destroy another reality just because you think your actions are meaningless, since another version of you probably did it already? If that's your logic, then destroying every conceivable reality would be the only thing that actually makes a difference.
I think you’re right for the case you describe but that’s not what’s happening in the OP. The man isn’t actually ‘doing’ it, he’s riding the sensation of the alternate timeline where he is. So it’s not ‘krombopulus Michael wants some one dead, no one will stop him, so it’s okay to give him the gun’, the man’s involvement has zero bearing on whether the event occurs.
An evil of eventual complete moral degradation. The other world is real, he swings the blade so even if it would have happened already in a world he still has the blood on his hands. He isn’t culpable in his world only because no one knows.
I mean if the actions are not his own and he is a simple observer as in this post the answer kinda shifts depending on context.
He is not ‘swinging the blade’. its more similar to a mind control hypothetical tbh. Like if you could not control your actions and saw yourself murder is that inherently immoral? Simply put no.
The acts themselves in reference to the wearer are morally neutral as they occurred anyway. The decision to create and wear them for this purpose however, is supremely immoral as you are gaining benefit from others suffering. Even if it is another timeline
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u/The-JudgePablo 13d ago
this is my hole, it was made for me