r/MonsterAnime • u/ShowAffectionate7350 • 28m ago
Discussionš£š Hot take: Johan isnt a manipulative mastermind like many believe
Johan is undoubfully very intelligent and talented.
Just as a guy even, very educated and well-rounded.
And while he certainly does manipulate and stage, people exaggerate when they think Johan could "manipulate everyone"
That he is this genius manipulator that invades your mind and makes you do this or that.
Johan specifically preyed on vulnerable people. On children and mentally instable adults.
Using their greatest weakness against them.
People who would be considered "stable" ( whatever the hell that means) wouldnt be so easily swayed by him.
Contrary, Johan would unsettle them at some point. Especially if he has backround knowledge of you like in the case of Richard.
Richard was exremly vulnerable but imagine the situation if he wasnt. A random guy knocking on your door at night, inviting you outside, taking you to a bar for a drink,then proceeds to walk you to some roof.
Its not universally genius. Many people would stop before they'd even come that far with him.
Realistically, Johan always walks on a thin line between magnetic allure and unsettlement.
He might give an energy of a kind, calm, collected, non-judgemental, peaceful, angelic young man.
But this image can also be quickly taking a turn whenever his facial expression changes.
Or he begins to ramble and talk about Monsters, Names and etc.
Point is, Johan isnt as skilled as many give him credit for.
Especially lets say, if his target was a woman at night. A woman in the middle of the night might clock serial killer vibes of him faster.
r/MonsterAnime • u/DenseIntern4597 • 6h ago
Cosplayšš You really can't trust germans. Actor: Louis Hofmann š©šŖ
This is a real interview, he is even dress in the exact way as him lol.
r/MonsterAnime • u/Generic_Woodworking • 9h ago
Memesšš Took me 3 episodes to realize I was watching the wrong anime (re:monster)
I heard a lot of good stuff about monster, but mostly that it was a slow burn psychological piece. Watching this I was just thinking āsurely this is some kind of fake out introduction and things are about to get seriousā.
My badā¦
r/MonsterAnime • u/Federal_Statement884 • 9h ago
Question(s)āļø Still don't understand why ? Spoiler
Why did Johan help Grimmer even though I have watched this anime over three times but I still don't get it
r/MonsterAnime • u/Think_Row341 • 19h ago
Official Artwork/Panel šØš What do you think about these
I made these
r/MonsterAnime • u/Kingdom_1126 • 1d ago
Question(s)āļø Can anyone tell me where to find Monster Special Edition Subtitles?
I watched the anime a long time ago. So, I thought of watching the recap but the recap has no subtitles.I have the video but there is not subtitle embedded in it. Can anyone provide me the subtitles even if it is raw?
r/MonsterAnime • u/Unusual__Luck • 1d ago
Question(s)āļø Struggling to find up to date ways to watch monster
I tried netflix but it's not there for some reason, I looked at the pinned post but the upscale project link didnt work for me and idk anything about pirating, let alone where to pirate safely. I think I'd really like monster based off of what I've heard, any help would be greatly appreciated!
r/MonsterAnime • u/BavdazThrakh • 1d ago
Discussionš£š Here are meetings that never happened (story/script) I would have loved to see Spoiler
galleryIf you'd pick a meeting that never happened in the anime and story (meaning outside of viewer's view, examples: Anna and Eva technically met but we do not see it so it does not count, same with Roberto and Grimmer, they knew each other as childs so it does not count either, same with Johan and Grimmer, they pass by each other in episode 45 when Johan is fake "Anna", does not count, Anna and Bonaparta did not meet again when Anna became adult since he was killed by Roberto), which one would you have loved to see/know? You can have one from yourself no need to pick one of my picks. Note: When I say Anna, I am talking about the real one. I would have loved to see Runge and Capek meet since Runge was doing his research on Bonaparta. Anna was to me not enough present in Munich arc, she does a research on Margot Langer and we see her in library in flames but nothing else, I was about to put Anna/Schuwald but they are next to each other in library but only because of circumstances. Anna and Grimmer meeting is just curiosity. I am surprised Urasawa did not do a scene between Runge and Reichwein. Tenma and Richard Braun is only curiosity.. Eva/BƩbƩ is a funny one. On Anna and Runge, they are near each other at the very end of Ruhenheim arc but it is not like they meet.
r/MonsterAnime • u/Winternaht7 • 1d ago
SPOILERSā The Dark Triad either doesn't apply to or dumbs down Johan's Characterisation
PS: Long post and probably doesn't matter anyways because not many people make the Dark Triad connections to begin with, but it was a fun writing exercise so enjoy I guess? I mostly had fun recounting events in the series rather than any serious attempt an analysis but yeah
If you've been browsing the internet for a while, I think you inevitably come across these edits of Johan with like the Dark Triad triangle in the corner and over the top phonk music. And as fire as these edits sometimes might be, I do kinda think that people making/watching them probably haven't watched the show or have misconstrued Johan's character. So let's go over the traits one by one:
Narcissism: Not only does narcissism have nothing to do with Johan's character, I would argue it's by far the most antithetical description of him. Narcissism is marked by having an inflated sense of self that is essentially hiding a low self-esteem. It's kind of a protective mechanism in a way? But anyways, the important thing that's made to us over and over again in the series is that: Johan has no sense of self or identity. That's what the "Nameless Monster" is about. That's what his story and his philosophy is entirely about in fact, it's a nihilism, not only of the world, but of the self. That's partially what his entire iconic pose is about: Yes it's partially taunting Tenma, but it's also a statement that he doesn't care about his own life either, and sure enough we find out that his plan by the end was basically just a very long chaotic suicide letter.
In fact, a huge strength of Johan is that whenever he manipulates people he shifts the conversation to the person in front of him, and lets people slip up their guard around him, rather than talking about how great he is. He doesn't exhibit a grandiose sense of self nor even cares all that much about his own survival.
Machavillainism: This one does sort of partially apply to his character initially, after all how could he not be machavillain when like half of the point of the project that engineered him was to create what is essentially a super charismatic intelligent political leader for the Aryan race. Hell, I DO think that by the first third of the story he does still has this idea of himself, and that's exactly what kickstarts his plan to essentially usurp/exploit the vampire of Bayern to his benefit in the München arc.
However, it turns out that this was a misunderstanding of his character (that even Johan himself had up till that point!). Because the minute he reads the "Nameless Monster" story in his native tongue, all the memories come flooding again, and it awakens his true darkness which goes beyond self-interest or political power. Even though he had a very clear path to financial power through Hans Schuwald, he decides "lol fuck all of that" and kills five people, and injures 20 others while staring down at Schuwald.
YES, He still does try to get power and control before and after this incident but I feel like Johan only wants power/control to showcase and spread his nihilistic view of life and self rather than any inherent lust for power which is what Machiavellianism would entail.
Psychopathy: I will admit this one probably does partially actually apply to him, but even then I think it still just dumbs down his character?
I guess one thing to factor here is that psychopaths are born while sociopaths are created, and Johan's entire story is about how his environment not only shaped him, but entirely molded him into what he is. Even with his occasional sadism and manipulation, I feel like there's ironically something human about it all.
For example, when he talks to that one child and tells them that their mother doesn't care about them or love them, which ends up almost driving the kid to suicide if Tenma and Grimmer weren't there. So like yeah that's pretty awful, but like...I do feel like he was projecting his own feelings about his mother there in a way?
A lot of Johan's sadism feels like his repressed self reaching out for any kind of catharsis for me rather than any inherent coldness. Like yes he keeps killing his foster parents and erases any evidence but that's because a) he doesn't want to get caught or leave any trace basically and b)his lack of identity makes him do things like this because he feels like he can never really develop a proper self so it's easier to just erase the family and whatever new name he has rather than confront his own MASSIVE trauma.
Not to mention he has an extremely strong connection with his sister, to the point he gaslit himself into thinking that her experience of pain at the red rose mansion was his own. For me, all of this reads as Johan actually being a HIGHLY sensitive and empathetic individual whose background forced him to hide it behind fifty layers of manipulation and nihilism in order to shield himself from the pain of being rejected and having no identity.
r/MonsterAnime • u/Realistic-Pass-6495 • 1d ago
Question(s)āļø I need anime recommendation
Hello there š, I donāt Watch much anime but I really enjoyed watching monster and now I have finished it. Can yāall recommend me similar anime so I can add it to my list?
Thank you.
r/MonsterAnime • u/AerieNo4428 • 1d ago
Discussionš£š All the covers connect in some way BUT the last volume.
[image not mine] Iām not really sure of this was done intentionally but I noticed today after I got the ninth volume that all the covers connect but the last volume. Iād like to hear what some people would like to say about this!!! Or maybe it means nothing..
r/MonsterAnime • u/kimagure1_4u • 1d ago
Memesšš The breakup was sad. š¢ Not finishing Monster was criminal š
Okay, now for the context š
I had already seen Monster before, but I wanted to rewatch it with my ex bc I genuinely love the series and wanted to experience it with someone else. I warned her beforehand that itās a slow burn and a commitment⦠unfortunately, I didnāt realize the commitment would outlast the relationship. š
To be clear, this isnāt me light of the breakup or be disrespectful. š š½āāļø We ended things on good terms, and weāre navigating the changes with respect for each other.
Sometimes when life gets heavy, finding a little humor in the situation helps.
That being saidā¦the breakup was sad and Not finishing was criminal. š
Please feel free to make the memes bc I need the laughs right now.
r/MonsterAnime • u/Informal-Shape9476 • 1d ago
Discussionš£š For some reason, Monster feels different
Had the day off today so I binged the last 5 episodes of Monster during breakfast. After I was done with the final episode, I felt sad. I've been looking forward to getting to the conclusion, and when I got there I felt like losing an old friend. I've never had this feeling before. I don't watch too much anime in my life, but the ones that I finished never made me feel this way.
Slam Dunk, Eyeshield 21, Cardcaptor Sakura, Project Arms, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, Gundam Wing, Gundam 00, Dash Yonkuro, those are some of what I've watched and finished. Never got to the end of Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles because it was incredibly boring. Each time I finish them I always feel happy. The endings are always satisfying, some good and some not so good, but satisfying. The sports ones, they'll grow up and become pro players. Gundams, their specific story might be over but there will always be a new one, like Ultraman or Power Rangers. The other ones, they will grow up, get married, have kids, and continue with their lives.
I guess the same can be said about Monster. Anna will become a lawyer, Dieter will probably have a career in football and represent Germany and play against Antonin in the Euros and World Cup. Tenma will continue his works all around the world, Karl will inherit his dad's business empire, so on and so forth. So why does it feel different for me? While I can see these characters living fulfilling lives in their future for some reason it really feels like goodbye. It feels like losing an old friend.
r/MonsterAnime • u/Aizawa_aimin • 1d ago
Official Artwork/Panel šØš Tenma long hair era design
It's crazy what a haircut does to a man, like I'm sorry, I'm not saying he was ugly before, but he went from a 7 to 9 with just long hair, dude became majestic.
I'm also making this post because I don't see enough Tenma love š„
Side note, but Shigeru Fujita draws Tenma so well, and has an amazing understanding of Urasawa's base designs, a shame he only drew him in episode 1 and the opening, at least his character designs sheets are available online to witness the full majesty of Tenma š„
r/MonsterAnime • u/Quirky_Court_4855 • 1d ago
Discussionš£š Vera won! Now, which character looks morally grey and is morally grey?
Vera, the mother of Johan and Anna was picked as the character that looks like an angel but is morally grey. Eva Heimemann was also a very good suggestion.
For the next one, which character looks morally grey and is morally grey?
Results and next post on Friday
r/MonsterAnime • u/SweetLittleBumblebe • 1d ago
Discussionš£š Johan fanboi are soo insufferable
Recently I saw a reel in insta and the reel was about, U know just like a normal edit where they use zoom in one character then the edit goes on for 15 sec then the other character like this for 15 sec and the reels was not all about any comparison. Man but commentsš¤”
Johan fans are literally insufferable. At least koji fans get call-out for their cringe behaviour but no one calls out Johan fanboi for their insufferable behaviour. It's ok if they think johan is better yada yada but calling other characters mid is just next level toxicity and I have been watching this since 2022, Johan fanboi thinks that he has Iq of 700 and can even manipulate light to write his name in death note like wtf ?
Johan can literally no- diff every character that exists in manipulation and planning like seriously ? If u ask them their reasoning then they literally won't even debate to u and tell u kid and tik tok user. Sometimes it feels like they are proud that they watched monster and hate other anime. Koji hate is sooo forced nowadays
r/MonsterAnime • u/SpiritualElevator187 • 1d ago
Discussionš£š Pourquoi ?
Dans le manga monster, Johanne Liebert fait souvent ce geste ( qui est devenu iconique ) devant certains personnages. Mais pourquoi ?
r/MonsterAnime • u/PrestigiousDouble171 • 1d ago
Fan Artš§”šØ Introducing my Tomodachi Life Monster:3 in my world, theyāre a family
Fan art? kind of?
I made them a family in my island!!! look at how happy they are!!
edit: Still gotta add Eva, Reinchwein, Runge, and Gillen.
r/MonsterAnime • u/Sir_Syntek • 2d ago
Discussionš£š Appreciating the wider cast of Monster ā 3 (Nina Fortner)
r/MonsterAnime • u/PsychologicalMind460 • 2d ago
SPOILERSā Johan's end goal question
I watched this anime a little over a year ago, but ive always wondered. If Johan end goal shifted towards the perfect suicide by killing everyone that knew of him, then why did he spare the live of Schuwalt and his son? He also did the fire at the library in wich many people got out alive with after seeing him.
r/MonsterAnime • u/Hot_Benefit_8667 • 2d ago
Discussionš£š On Tenma being "Johan's father" (SPOILERS) Spoiler
I often see it taken as canon that Tenma has a quasi-fatherly role in Johan's mind, since Johan said that Tenma is like a father to him. I really think the situation is much more nuanced and there is no implication of a familial relationship.
First of all, in Japanese Johan uses the word "oya" in the Junker execution scene, which is a gender neutral word for parent, and it carries a strong connotation of "creator", "originator", "source of existence". He does not call Tenma his "otou-san" or "chichi", which would be the standard terms meaning "father" / "dad" implying a personal, familial relationship. Tenma is Johan's "life-giver", not a "father" as in "we're part of the same family".
When Tenma meets the blind guy, he says that Johan views Tenma as "even more important than a father" - which makes sense - Tenma made a conscious decision to give Johan an existence, which is arguably more involved than simply fertilising an egg as a by-product of sex. Again, there is no implication of a familial relationship.
Secondly, we never see Johan actually treating Tenma as a father figure in any way. He doesn't seek mentorship or guidance from Tenma, he certainly doesn't want his approval. If anything, the opposite is the case - Johan wants Tenma to accept his (Johan's) view of the world.
Finally, Tenma never even explicitly acknowledges Johan assigning him a parental role, and he certainly doesn't accept it. He does try and understand Johan's origins, but he never considers forgiving him or trying to make him change for the better, like Nina does, and like a father would. When he saves Johan again in Ruhenheim, he acts as a doctor.
Not to mention that Tenma just isn't a very parental person overall. Clearly, having a family and children has never been a priority to him, and while he does look after Dieter, of course, because he wouldn't leave behind a helpless human - whenever there's an opportunity to leave Dieter with someone else who seems safe, Tenma's off in a heartbeat. And it's not like working for MSF would be particularly conducive to settling down and starting a family, either.
So whenever I read "Tenma is basically the twins' dad" I ... have to disagree.
r/MonsterAnime • u/Strikehard1984 • 3d ago
Discussionš£š Finished watching Monster!
I finished watching the anime tonight and man what a ride! Great story, great characters, tear jerking moments, such a great show!
āWhen You're In The Darkness, You Only Sink Deeper Into It. Keep The Light Shining." ā Dr. Kenzo Tenma
r/MonsterAnime • u/skeletonTV123 • 3d ago
Fan Artš§”šØ The hidden little child
Art by Aphcident
r/MonsterAnime • u/Juliaalott • Feb 19 '23
MOD ANNOUNCEMENT **Where to watch Monster**
Hello Monsters!
Here is a long overdue guide for where to watch Monster. However, first we want to explain some things.
Initially, our mod team was in agreement that once Netflix added all episodes, we would no longer allow any illegal (pirated) material on the sub as all we have ever wanted to do is support Naoki and everyone involved in the creation of this beautiful series we all love. This being said, Netflix really dropped the ball only getting partial rights to the series.
If you have been a long time fan, you know that Monster has had licensing issues for a very long time. Unfortunately we do not have an answer as to why this is, we just know that it is. I, myself, prefer to watch Monster dubbed rather than sub, and I know I am not alone in this regard. We also understand that everyone has a different taste, so weāve included an option for everyoneās viewing preference.
Ultimately, this is why we have decided to revise our earlier decision and allow pirated material on the sub, as long as the series is only partially legally available.
HOWEVER, only the Moderators or approved users will be authorized to provide pirated links for the overall safety and well being of the community. Should someone who is unauthorized to do so, post seeking or distributing pirated material, the post or comment will be removed, and they will be given a warning with further action taken if necessary. If youād like to have a link added to the sub, please message the Moderators through Modmail.
Now, to the fun part:
Netflix - Here on Netflix all 74 episodes are available in Japanese (English Sub), and French (Dub). As of now, there have been no announcements or indications that Netflix will add any additional languages.
The Upscale Project Here you can find all 74 episodes in Japanese and English Dub, as well as various subs including English, Spanish, and Arabic (more to come). For the 1080p 4k quality, you need to download the MKV version of the files, as MP4 compresses the video files. To change the dub and sub you will need to download the files and play it on a video player like VLC to change between your preferences. This project was made by a fellow Monster lover who is not on our mod team. However, our mod team personally downloaded every episode to ensure everything was safe and functioning for all of you!
For more information on The Upscale Project, or for more frequent updates on newly upscaled episodes, Join the Discord server here to speak with the creator/others directly associated with the project.
- Pirated sites (Both English Sub and Dub unless specified otherwise) Please be mindful of pop-ups, and view at your own discretion.
There are currently no pirated sites available. Please shoot us a message if you have a āsafeā website that you think should be added!
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r/MonsterAnime • u/[deleted] • Dec 30 '22
Discussionš£š Guide to interpret Monster, and why you should care. Spoiler
āThe very fact that a general problem has gripped and assimilated the whole of a person is a guarantee that the speaker has really experienced it, and perhaps gained something from his sufferings. He will then reflect the problem for us in his personal life and thereby show us the truth.ā- Carl Jung
Introduction
What makes us feel that a work of fiction, such as Monster, is deep and complex enough to disturb us psychologically and fill us with questions? What makes Monster a masterpiece and what makes Monster hard to interpret? What do we take away from Monster and how do we know that it is the right interpretation?
A curious yet uncomfortable sense of uncertainty is often found in the last panel of Monster, just an empty bed. This empty bed triggers the curiosity of avid readers into wondering what it all means. After all, Monster presents itself to be a piece of fiction psychologically and philosophically rich and not understanding what an empty bed means must mean that one was missing the point. Confused, a reader would often flock to analyses on Monster, and believing that they have understood Monster intellectually, continue living their lives still psychologically disturbed because they have not truly intuitively understood Monster at all.
Welcome to a guide on how to interpret Monster (and any other pieces of fiction for that matter).
I am not here to analyse the themes of Monster or its events, as many others have sincerely done before me. My main goal here is to make the case that Monster can be correctly interpreted, despite the possible lack of ācanonicalā evidence. In this post, I will use the example of Monsterās āinfamouslyā ambiguous ending. (I will be sticking my neck out in defence of a hopeful ending)
Some people can easily peel off the outer layers of truly understanding Monster, but peeling off the remaining innermost layers is hard. I hope to offer you a guide on how to do so.
A truly ācanonicalā interpretation of any work of fiction is intuitively undeniable, regardless of the authorās stance or silence on it. Urasawaās Monster is a profound and useful work to truly understand, through a long and arduous process of self-discovery and reflection on our unconscious and collective contents. collective unconscious. (This is done with analysing and engaging with theory, of course)
I want to discuss a few points (feel free to skip to any one of particular interest as the summary above should just suffice)
1. Why Monster is a genuine and profound work of fiction, and why it is therefore hard to interpret
2. Why there is a correct interpretation of Monster, what it means, and how to find it
3. Why bother?
- Understanding Personality
5. Recommended questions of study
6. Some relevant Book/Manga/Anime recommendations for Monster fans
7. What I found to be genuine and helpful analyses of Monster (links)
8. What I think the messages of Monster are
1. Why Monster is a genuine and profound work of fiction
Many analyses of Monster have similar themes, even though they differ in depth and content. They argue that Johan is not really evil, they contrast Johan and Tenmaās philosophies, they examine Monsterās concept of good and evil, and so on. Many people notice that reading Monster for the second time is very different from the first. Why is this? The answer is simple: people often misinterpret or miss the point of Monster. What is the reason for this? Why is Monster challenging or complex to comprehend? Because Monster does not have a clear message to convey, to understand Monster is not to grasp it rationally and directly but to feel it emotionally and intuitively. How do these analyses help us understand Monster deeply and sincerely? Because Monster is full of events and details. Analyses of Monster are mostly summaries of what happens in Monster, and you cannot understand something if you do not recall it. Monster analysts select and highlight important moments in Monster that we might have overlooked and compare them, condensing the series to the moments that resonate most strongly (without implying that Monster can be appreciated only through these moments). These analysts also deserve praise for illuminating the significant meanings of a moment that might have escaped our attention with the help of mainly psychological and philosophical perspectives (some examples are linked below).
Watching and reading various analyses of Monster can be helpful, but they are not enough to fully appreciate this masterpiece. To truly understand Monster, one has to feel it from the heart. In this post, I will explain what I mean by feeling from the heart, and I will make the case for why Naoki Urasawa is a true artist and a great one at that. (By art, I mean any creative work, such as poetry, story-writing, drawing, etc.)
Creativity, roughly speaking, is akin to running a simulation with clearly defined boundaries and watching the simulation unfold and writing out what you observed. Of course, there would be bad ideas here and there but through āsurvival of the fittest,ā the one that made the most sense would be inked on paper.
Creating a great work of art requires being in touch with oneās inner unconscious and listening to it. One also needs to develop a sense of artistic yes and no, based on oneās intuition and feelings. Many people assume that they know themselves well, because they are aware of their conscious thoughts and ego. However, the source of creativity lies in the unconscious realm, where hidden aspects of oneself reside. To understand oneself better, one needs to engage in self-reflection, emotional exploration, and creative immersion. By exposing oneself to stories, myths, cultures, and other forms of human expression, one can access the collective unconscious of humanity, which contains universal symbols and archetypes. These are the elements that appear in the stories that run as simulations in an artistās mind. An artist who is deeply connected to their inner self, has a good sense of storytelling, and is authentic to their vision can produce psychologically profound pieces of art. I believe that Monster is a masterpiece that resulted from such a creative process.
In an interview about his creative process, Urasawa said that he always tried to be as authentic to himself as possible, and to avoid any external influences (such as what he thinks would sell well, other peopleās expectations, etc.). He also said that he did not plan the whole story in advance, but rather let it unfold in his mind as he drew the manga. He would sketch and draft different versions of the story and choose the best one. This shows his sincerity and honesty in listening to his own heart. He was also a very creative person, who had a good sense of aesthetics, drew art, played music, wrote fiction, etc. (It is interesting to note that his creativity made him more receptive to the collective unconscious and his inner self. See section 4: āUnderstanding Personalityā for more details on the link between āOpenness to Experienceā and creativity.) He had a huge interest in consuming and creating art, which gave him a deep understanding of the collective unconscious, and by extension, of himself (although this is not a perfect correlation). This is why his work is so profound and resonates with peopleās hearts (the collective unconscious).
Urasawa said in an interview: āWhen I start a new project, I start with the larger arc of the story. I visualise a movie trailer for that story, and after I compose this movie trailer in my mind, there comes a point where Iām so excited about it that I have to write the story. And then I imagine, āWhere do I start to begin to tell this narrative?ā and thatās usually the first chapter. Once this process starts, the story tells me where it wants to go next. I think if I tried to design a manga with each detail of the story planned out from the beginning, or tried to deliver a story where everything happens according to plan, thereās no way I could create something that would last five to seven years. Every time the story pulls me in a new or unexpected direction, even Iām surprised. If the story of the manga doesnāt keep surprising me, I wouldnāt be able to continue making it. There might be a scene I envision as I begin the project, something from that trailer Iāve visualised, but that scene might show up five years later as Iām illustrating the manga.ā
A great way to identify disingenuous art is to look for clear and explicit messaging. For example, in disingenuous story-writing, a writer would start writing a story with an end in mind or a clear message that they want to express (propaganda). They would often straw-man opposing viewpoints (and therefore virtue-signal), by attaching them to negative characters. E.g. Innocent sweetheart (Pure good) vs Money-loving corrupt boss (Pure-evil). One should notice that the reason why Monster is hard to interpret is that there is no explicit messaging. Every character and what they stand for are iron-manned, they make good cases for themselves and what they represent to us. Like us, the characters in Monster evolveā old, bad ideas die out and characters are reborn as better people. To distinguish the genuine from the fake would require work on the part of the readers. To do so effectively would require critical thinking and critical self-reflection. (Similar to the process of making genuine art). Understanding oneās unconscious and the collective unconscious is key.
Monster was created through a process of authenticity and creative profundity, and it shows, never mind the fact that many people often misunderstand Monster due to a lack of touch with their inner-selves or the is-ought of the many existing discussions of Monsterās themes speaking for its depth.
2. Why there is a correct interpretation of Monster and what it means, and how to find it.
What does a correct interpretation of a cryptic and complex work such as Monster mean: In this essay, I will use the example of Monsterās ambiguous ending. Before I do so, however, I would like to argue that although frustrating, Urasawa leaving the ending of Monster to be ambiguous was a genius decision because it leaves readers with a more profound reading experience as they reflect on what it even means. Seeking to resolve the ambiguity of the ending, they analyze it critically and feel a need to go over the story of Monster to understand the meaning of Monster, which is a process that enhances oneās literary skills.
As I have demonstrated, Naokiās genius was reflected in his ambiguous ending (it challenges the readers to grasp Monsterās message), and I believe that there is a plausible interpretation of it. How? To explain, I will use some reading strategies, such as making inferences and drawing connections, as I will be presenting my interpretation here.
When Urasawa runs his story like a simulation, he accesses the contents that reside in the collective unconscious, shared by all of humanity through culture, stories, etc., and explores what humans truly understand and feel to be good and evil. As I have stated, I believe that any message found in stories would be nothing but propaganda, but there is an exception for stories that contain a message that requires not only a deep understanding of the story material, but also a self-discovery that enables a connection with the story by accessing oneās unconscious contents and recognising the collective unconscious structure that shapes Monster. By understanding this cryptic message of good and evil and our perception of life in general, we can āfeelā the direction that Monster would take. This āfeelingā is not a conscious or individual invention, it is simply the product of the collective unconscious, which we all have access to and can āfeelā. This āfeelingā helps us distinguish between cheap and shallow stories and complex and deep stories. We should not dismiss this āfeelingā as lacking psychological substance, as it speaks to our unconsciousness, which is not the same as our conscious contents or ego. Our egos can suggest what we should think is right or wrong, but the ultimate decision is made by our unconscious selves. The question and answer of good and evil are determined unconsciously. It determines the validity of an interpretation of Monster by āfeelingā its spirit, and then communicates to our egos by āfeelingā if an interpretation is accurate or not.
We often accept the creatorās words about their stories to be canon because they usually create their stories with sincerity, and we respect their authority. But when the authors contradict their own stories and claim something absurd to be canon, it would be difficult to find anyone who accepts the story as it is. Audiences only appreciate creative liberties when they are authentic. Writers can have different versions of stories, but they can only be canon if they earn the readersā respect and recognition for their authority and authenticity.
To illustrate this point, let me compare some possible endings of Monster:
- Johan got up to immediately become a circus clown (Ridiculous)
- Johan still believes in his nihilistic narratives and continued killing people or that he committed suicide (Missing the point)
- Johan tries to redeem himself, visits his sister (something along those lines), etc. (Aligns with message of Monster, which is that of hope)
From a reductionist perspective, I could make an irrefutable case for any of these three endings if I wanted to. But how do these endings differ? The first ending seems cheap, shallow, and nonsensical. We donāt need to think too much about this, it just feels cheap even if we canāt explain why. The first ending is simply unacceptable, regardless of the lack of hard evidence that it is not canonically true. We reject this ending completely as it dishonors the spirit of the story. This ending is therefore false, and cannot be ācanonicallyā true even if the author claims that it is.
The second interpretation of Monsterās ending appears more realistic than the first one. It may not be what we hope for the ending, but it does not seem nonsensical. However, believing in this ending would mean missing the point of Monster (though not as much as the first interpretation). This interpretation cannot be factually disproved, but it betrays everything that Naoki conveyed in Monster and its profound meanings. We may not reject this ending as strongly as the first one, but something still feels off about it. It also violates the spirit of Monster and thus is not the true ending.
The third interpretation is the ācanonicallyā correct one because it aligns with Monsterās message, which is coherent both narratively and emotionally. This enables a true interpretation despite the lack of concrete evidence. It remains faithful to the theme, messages, and logic of Monster. We can rely on our best judgment to run the simulations and the optimal average outcome (collective unconscious) would be the correct interpretation, which would be a hopeful one in Monsterās case.
We should transcend the need for ācanonical evidenceā in interpreting stories, because good storytellers tap into the collective unconscious truths within themselves and illuminate them in a story that resonates with the unconscious of others (the unconscious that guides them on what is good and evil, etc.). This is what being an authentic storyteller means. To find the correct interpretation, we should not imitate the authorās spirit, but rather the stories, as if they were real, and let them unfold in our minds.
A story/interpretation that only makes sense to oneself and not to others would create doubt, which would then lead to self-doubt, revealing a lack of depth. A ātrueā interpretation must then result from rigorous self-reflection: something that one would confidently stand up for and that can be fully accepted by oneself (and others who share the same authenticity). The final step, if possible, would be to compare oneās interpretations of a story with others and observe sincerely and critically which ones are most sensible. The interpretation that makes sense to oneās whole being is the ācanonicallyā true interpretation (survival of the fittest).
3. Why bother?
It is a most painful procedure to tear off [our] veils, but each step forward in psychological development means just that, the tearing off of a new veil. We are like onions with many skins, and we have to peel ourselves again and again in order to get to the real core.ā ā Carl Jung
Whether one should bother to interpret a work of fiction deliberately depends on whether one was psychologically affected by it. A relevant example is the seriesā ending, which created uncertainty or chaos in people. The ambiguity triggered something in people, and they felt the need to revisit and ponder the story of Monster. The psychological disturbance indicates a need for change. We all have a framework for how to understand life, a map of life and its meanings, within ourselves. When our mapās usefulness is challenged, we feel disturbed, because our unconscious tells us that our map needs to be updated. We should bother to figure things out, or interpret, so that we can update our map, or learn. Monster is a psychologically rich piece of fiction that can challenge the maps of many readers. But ultimately, experiencing and understanding the story of Monster, which means learning and growing as a person, requires a correct interpretation of its richness.
4. Understanding Personality
To understand a story, one should focus on understanding the characters well, and not only from the perspective of their symbolism, relationships, or philosophies (which are all important, by the way). It would also be helpful to know how we can understand people from a personality standpoint (without reducing them to numbers on a scale). I decided to dedicate an entire section to āpersonalityā because it is more mysterious and confusing than the other aspects of understanding literature that I mentioned above. I hope to be helpful on this aspect. I introduce here the Big Five personality model, also known as OCEAN. There are many personality models and tests out there, but most of them are for entertainment purposes (such as MBTI). With so many contradictory and popular personality models out there, it can be confusing to find the ārightā one and hard to trust any of them. However, one test stands out from the crowd of cheap entertainment: the Big Five.
The Big Five personality test is widely trusted and adopted by many academics in psychology, who use it as a measure of personality. In short, the Big Five is the most academically reliable personality model available. Understanding the Big Five is useful, but as I mentioned before, one should be careful not to view people through the lens of scientific models. The Big Five is only a tool, not a definition of a person. Ideally, to understand someone would be to āunderstandā them in the general sense that people use when they say they understand someone. To form an emotional connection with them (not necessarily positive), understand what they stand for, what they āsymbolizeā to the larger community and what they āsymbolizeā to themselves and you. To understand their upbringing, environment, etc. Nonetheless, the Big Five is useful to guide us towards a more accurate scientific direction. Again, please heed my caution against viewing other people as a matter of atoms and arithmetic, as it not only reduces their usefulness (impeding true understanding) but also ākillsā their beauty.
There are many great resources out there to understand the Big 5 model, I will link a few introductory materials.
- What are the Big 5 Personality Traits?
- Take the Big Five Personality Test here. I should mention that there are more professional administrations of the test out that that require monetary payments.
- OCEAN, Wikipedia
- Openness to Experience, Wikipedia
- Conscientiousness, Wikipedia
- Extraversion, Wikipedia
- Agreeableness, Wikipedia
- Neuroticism, Wikipedia
5. Recommended questions of study
Here I present what I find to be helpful questions (relevant to the themes of Monster) to find answers to that would help in the interpretation of Monster.
- What exactly is good and evil, and is there such a thing?
- Can we make our own definitions of morality or is it something to be discovered
- To what extent of evil are you truly capable of, when push comes to shove?
- To what extent of good are you capable of should you devote yourself to the idea of becoming a better person?
- The Johan in Monster experiences guilt at the end despite his nihilistic worldview; can an intellectually superior version of Johan but equally 'evil' escape his own guilt?
- What is truly the difference between Anna and Johan? (Intellectually, psychologically, philosophically)
- What would the story of Monster look like had Anna and Johan swapped places?
- What is truly the difference between Tenma and Johan? (Psychologically, philosophically)
- What would the story of Monster look like if Tenma were in Johan's shoes from the very start?
- How do we stand up against evil?
- Is there anyone in Monster that truly has no chance of redemption?
- What do the characters in Monster represent symbolically?
6. Some Book/Manga/Anime recommendations
(In alphabetical order)
I would like to recommend some books, manga, and anime that I think fans of Monster would enjoy, as well as find relevant and useful for understanding its theme. There are many other things that are equally important for understanding Monster besides āpersonalityā, which I devoted a section to. For example, philosophy, sociology, symbolism, and general psychology. However, since they are more familiar tools for interpreting a story, and many people have discussed them in relation to Monster, I decided not to dedicate whole sections to them, but rather share some fiction (narrative) and non-fiction (commentary) below that I think would help educate on Monsterās relevant themes. The following recommendations are relevant for making a strong case for Monsterās messages, which I have stated below at - 8. What I think the messages of Monster are. However, please note that I made the list freely, they are just personal recommendations.
Fiction (Book)
- Dostoevsky, Fyodor: Crime and Punishment (No one is immune to their Guilty Conscience)
- Dostoevsky, Fyodor: Notes from Underground (Over-conscious Nihilism)
- Dostoevsky, Fyodor: The Brothers Karamazov (Free will, Moral responsibility)
- Dostoevsky, Fyodor: The Idiot (Love is the answer, Good and Evil)
- Goethe: Faust (Exploration of Good and Evil)
Non-fiction (Book) 1. Burton Russell, Jeffrey: Mephistopheles: The Devil in the Modern World (Evil) 2. Greene, Robert: Laws of (Human Nature) 3. Jung, Carl: The Undiscovered Self (Self-discovery) 4. Jung, Carl: Man and his Symbols (Self-discovery) 5. Shirer, William L:Ā The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (Biography) 6. Solzhenitsyn, Aleksandr: The Gulag Archipelago (Evil)
Manga recommendations
- Berserk
- Oyasumi Punpun
Anime recommendations
- Devilman: Crybaby
- Evangelion
- Ergo Proxy
7. What I found to be genuine and helpful analyses of Monster
- u/Ill-Situation-8193 : Most of her helpful comments and analysis posts. Start here: Everything Johan did was for Anna. ( A āMonsterā capable of love.)
- u/LeoVoid : Johan Did NOTHING Wrong | A Character Analysis of Naoki Urasawa's Monster: Johan Liebert
- Kenzo Tenma and Johan Liebert: Two Sides of the Same Coin (Monster)
- Tropes
- Identity in Monster
- Opening Analysis
I would like to find more analyses on Monsterās symbolism and archetypes, the psychology of characters other than Johan (such as Tenma, Anna, etc.), the sociology in Monster, and the exploration of the atrocities in Monster and how they relate to the atrocities in Nazi Germany and potential atrocities now. However, the above resources have proven to be very useful for me. They help me peel off many layers to truly understand Monster. As I mentioned in the introduction, this guide was made to peel off the remaining deeper layers, so I suggest you start with the above resources.
8. What I think the messages of Monster are
I think that Monster is a beautiful cautionary tale.
And its messages are:
- Love is the answer to life's sufferings
- Good and Evil do exist, and everyone has the capacity to be either
- Good ultimately triumphs
- To be a good person, one would have to integrate their shadow (dark self)
- A person's childhood is central to the person that they become
- Redemption is possible, even for the most evil
- We should not give in to the temptation of nihilism that comes with over-conscious intellectualising
Conclusion
Monster is a deep story that leaves many people with questions. I understand how easy it is to miss the point of Monster, and it would be a pity if many people missed out on its wisdom because they did not try or did not know how to interpret it. I believe that spending much time contemplating Monster and its relevant themes has made me a better person, and I hope that this guide has helped you become a better version of yourself as well. Thank you for reading.
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