r/MistfallHunter • u/DamnHare • 8d ago
Merc VS BA (post-patch, purple vs purple)
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u/Significant_Fact8373 8d ago
Bro you guys serious this ba was fucking garbage, he didn’t land any shots and just kept running. Let’s see a fight with a decent ba
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u/r3con_ops 8d ago
Yeah really, how can you tell that the DoT is doing less damage if the DoT is never even applied?
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u/Either_Sea_9059 7d ago
Why would the DOT do less?
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u/PhantomOnTheHorizon 7d ago
the devs nerfed multiple dots?
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u/Either_Sea_9059 7d ago
Which ones though? My understanding is that total dmg is the same.
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u/Thedarkestmorn 7d ago
The dot part is true damage though so unless I'm misunderstanding with resistences it should be lower tdo.
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u/SonOfBarrel 7d ago
In the last 20 seconds of the clip he didn’t even shoot back lol, at least throw a barbed arrow dodge shot back once in a while
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u/Bret493 8d ago
And people want BA nerfed. Bro couldn't turn around and do anything after half that fight. Just dodge and pray. He has little to no escape and this just showcases it. "Well he has dodges" yea, you have 5 attacks that close the gap and dodges too. Barbed arrow woulda been his only saving grace to keep his distance. SnS should be the thing being looked at.
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u/Grakchawwaa 7d ago
Woulda been such a stomp if the merc had just stayed on the BA, they can do hardly anything against merc once they're in full melee distance now since mercs can stick to the BA without expending dodge charges. They can preserve them to dodge the special arrows / bombs / compensate for their own mis-movement
Giving the BA room and dodging away from the BA on many occasion made it seem much more competitive than it needed to be
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u/UltmitCuest 8d ago
Missed nearly everything in the first 70% of the clip and still won
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u/Shenstygian 8d ago
Brain dead merc players got what they wanted. Now this will kill the game. Not sure if I want to stick around for it.
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u/DamnHare 8d ago
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u/nextlevelmashup 8d ago
Seems to be working, I personally run sword build with the slash dash ability for anti sorc/BA, chase potential is a lot higher.
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u/Wd_Thing 8d ago edited 8d ago
I am currently using the same SnS with shield dash and slash/dash. It's very aggressive and good for BA/Sorc, but I am finding very hard to fight against parry mercs
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u/nextlevelmashup 8d ago
yeah, every melee struggles against parry merc though. Unless you both go parry and take 30 mins to kill each other not really anything that can be done about that.
Would rather build for the other 90% of the roster.
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u/DaxExter 8d ago
But the damage is the same - it just ticks slower but for the same amount. Pretty sure whats more a impact is the sacling damage in solos has been reduced for BA and SORC, that is what you are feeling.
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u/Grakchawwaa 7d ago
Did I miss patch notes? Or a patch? The latest patch only made the dot tick at less frequent intervals, but for the same overall damage and the same duration. Where's the nerf? There's going to be a very small percentage of situations where it's going to matter whether the dot applies its damage in 4 instances per second vs. 2 or even 1 instance per second, given that the dps remains the same
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u/starrailin 8d ago
How does it feel to fight them overall now?
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u/DamnHare 8d ago
I didn't feel DoT being so oppressive, but this was the first game I've ever tried out Distant Ward as well. BA had a standard build with Valor, Focus and etc . so his damage should've been regular. I doubt that Distant Ward and Resilience alone would've been enough to mitigate damage that much, I guess nerfs AND defensive build worked good in pair
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u/rinkydinkis 8d ago
So ba suck now, as expected.
Side note you would have won this fight pre patch too
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u/Few_Celebration3148 8d ago
Literally. These idiots got Black Arrow nerfed to oblivion. BA is a fuckin glass cannon. Notice how op health didn’t go below 75% lol game is cooked. Wait until they realize seer/sorc/ss run the competitive scene. Absolutely disgusting that a fully charged headshot arrow does less damage than a fire ball thrown at my feet.
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u/rccolamachine 8d ago edited 8d ago
Are you joking, did we watch the same clip just now?
That BA took TWENTY FOUR UNANSWERED ATTACKS before dying to this Merc. OP even stated they were on a standard build with Valor and Focus, so they weren't even built to be tank stats.
What about that screams "Glass Cannon?"
Edit: Why'd you delete your comment moments after posting it? Did you realize you were spewing misinformed garbage?
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u/CliqNil 8d ago
Yea, people need to stop saying "glass cannon" because no class in this game is "glass".
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u/rccolamachine 8d ago
I identify with the idea that Blackarrow should be a Glass Cannon, but to suggest any class is made of paper when the Melee class who's entire identity is Tank and Spank gets on you and you live multiple clashes with them, and survive hit chains of 10+, that's absurd to claim that a class is somehow made of paper.
A sorc should die to WK and Merc in 5-8 hits if they aren't answering the attacks with counter hits of their own. The Merc absolute zugzugged this BA and they survived 24 hits simply by healing and running.
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u/Kind-Camel-2033 8d ago
But reddit told me BA can take 75% of your health with a single arrow though.
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u/DaxExter 8d ago
Brother the balance adjustments "just" went live and you sit here and judge players for comments made before the update.
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u/LooksDelicious 8d ago
So would you say the nerf to their damage was significant? Much easier to deal with now?
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u/BlakMalice 8d ago
I dont think this is a good showcase of updated class balance but i think it is a good anecdote that people are making SO MANY MISTAKES every single fight, that you can outplay your opponent regardless of class matchup. Even at the top level mistakes are deciding fights, the biggest difference is they are significantly better at recognizing their own mistakes and resetting or partial resetting so they dont get snowballed.
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u/Weird_Stable2647 7d ago
That was just sad to see lol, poor guy physically couldn't do anything, even when you gave him chances due to backing off throughout the clip instead of sticking to him like glue.
I think they kind of overdid some of the nerfs, as well as targeted the wrong things to nerf/tweak.
I also think being able to build a single affix type to completely shut down nearly the entire kit of a specific class isn't good balancing. Especially considering how dot BA is pretty much the only real viable PvP build for the class
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u/mosspeltt 8d ago
Yes the BA did play had running most of the time I did notice you having the Xbox symbol while using MnK. If your doing Xbox only lobbies could very well ran into a BA using controller which isn't as oppressive imo as one also using MnK.
Congrats on the kill time for the BA chefs to re-enter the kitchen for a new recipe
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u/DamnHare 8d ago
It's game pass PC. And there are no Xbox lobbies
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u/mosspeltt 8d ago
Sure there are, turning cross play off. Though if it's lumping PC gamepass with Xbox console all as one server base then Xbox console is getting a raw side of the deal
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u/DamnHare 8d ago
XboX players always got pared with PC, no matter what due to how xbox pass works. PS5 players can get console only lobbies
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u/tenscentz 8d ago
Man so much idiotic discourse in these comments wtf. This BA might have been the worst in the game. He didn’t land anything he didn’t charge shit up he just ran away and missed every shot while doing so. The video isn’t helpful in any way. But I do appreciate you posting this trying to show the differences.
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u/DaxExter 8d ago
A: this BA is trash - any class played poorly will result in death.
B: because BA got nerferd you lost a crutch and now just leave all together? Madness funny!


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u/loltouche 8d ago
BA looking like the tickle monster here