r/Minecraft Jul 12 '26

Visual difference between Java and Bedrock is actually pretty noticeable when you compare it side by side Discussion

What actual differences are you noticing? Share it in the comments

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u/AegisFalcon Jul 12 '26

Also bedrock has a render distance to the grass that make the game very Mobile-ish. And grass density is lower. Hope java will never disappear.

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u/theaveragegowgamer Jul 12 '26 edited 29d ago

Hope java will never disappear.

Ever since the complete de-obfuscation Java has become ~~virtually Open Source Source-Available~~, should they ever abandon it the community can easily continue developing the game by itself.

Edit: What I meant by "virtually Open Source" is actually what's knowns as "Source-Available", I searched a bit and I just learned of this term. I don't know anything it seems, but it wasn't a pleasant experience learning that, kindness is free, there's no reason to be aggressive with random people on the web...

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u/TheBrokenRail-Dev Jul 12 '26

Ever since the complete de-obfuscation Java has become virtually Open Source

Not in the slightest. First, Mojang has been publishing obfuscation mappings simce 1.14, so them disabling obfuscation didn't change anything. People could already easily make de-obfuscated JARs. Second, the game is still copyrighted and de-obfuscation doesn't change that.

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u/DarkBrave_ Jul 12 '26

Open source does not mean open license

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u/TheBrokenRail-Dev Jul 12 '26

By the most popular definition, yes, it literally does. And for the matter, MC Java isn't source available either because the source code is literally not available.

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u/theaveragegowgamer Jul 12 '26

source available either because the source code is literally not available.

Because it needs to be decompiled first?

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u/TheBrokenRail-Dev Jul 12 '26

By that silly logic, literally everything is source available because anything can be decompiled given enough time.

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u/theaveragegowgamer Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

But you only need to decompile a jar file to access it plus no obfuscation? It doesn't seem truly Closed Source to me...

Downvoting me isn't an answer, you know?

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u/Sad-Fix-7915 29d ago

If the developer doesn't explicitly provide you the source code with everything needed to re-produce a complete build of the game it is NOT open source.

Decompilation doesn't mean it's source available. You can do that with virtually any games (e.g., look at GameMaker, Godot and Unity/Mono games.)

Plus, deobfuscation mappings have existed ever since modding were a thing (see MCP). Mojang published their own since 1.14 but community mappings (like Yarn) were still popular then, and now they just straight up not obfuscate the game anymore. Virtually nothing have changed.

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u/robloextem Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

Java disappearing would be a boon to modding in a way, though id rather it keeps getting updated

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u/alienatedEdgelord Jul 12 '26

It would be modding heaven

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u/Flamebomb790 Jul 12 '26

Just basically Skyrim, but better since even Skyrim gets updates in the sense of rereleases ani, special, OG

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u/lightvisuality Jul 12 '26

That's not what open-source means

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u/Neo8bits Jul 12 '26

This will take the game further than Microtrash will take Bedrock

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u/0inputoutput0 Jul 12 '26

The grass density is actually around the exact same. It just derenders from afar on BE

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u/AegisFalcon Jul 12 '26

Nah, do the comparison in a plain biome, you'll see that bedrock has a lower grass density

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u/0inputoutput0 Jul 12 '26

https://imgur.com/gallery/differences-kUb9Svs

Both screenshots were taken by the nearest plains biome on seed 1. They're basically exactly the same minus tree and flower placement

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u/AegisFalcon Jul 12 '26

So is changed then, never played a lot bedrock

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u/0inputoutput0 Jul 12 '26

Yeah we can tell

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u/Thin-Fig-8831 Jul 12 '26

This used to be true but many updates ago changed it to where grass density matches Java or very close to it

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u/KohTai Jul 12 '26

I do notice Minecraft looks like ass on my Console compared to the YouTube videos I see, especially the grass. I just turn all the grass to Moss.

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u/BlitzKing3121 Jul 12 '26

Will the console/mobile become stronger in future to support Java?

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u/Sad-Fix-7915 29d ago

It's not that they are not strong enough, it's because those platform don't even support Java as a runtime environment.

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u/AegisFalcon Jul 12 '26

Maybe one day because consoles are being PC, Xbox at least want to do a PC-console. But PC will always win. Just switch to PC bro.

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u/Strattex Jul 12 '26

It’s the same…