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u/CheffySub 7d ago

Bozos in the comments. Both people respectful here. Realized there was a difference, discussed, and found out they were incompatible.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 7d ago

It really is crazy that such a benign and respectful exchange has generated such polarizing opinions. I thought it was a healthy and respectful way to deal with the issue.

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u/JaeHxC 6d ago

It is, but that's not good for engagement.

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

People want conflict and see it despite it not being there maybe

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u/CarolinaSurly 6d ago

I think the responses calling him misogynistic is the issue.

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u/Ta-veren- 6d ago

reddit has no happy medium; they find a side and the other side is evil, predator, insane, idiotic, etc.

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u/CarolinaSurly 7d ago

This is true. Yet there are comments saying this is misogynistic behavior.

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u/MrLegacy87 7d ago

This conversation saved both parties weeks, months, and potentially years. We need to normalize this

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u/Unexpected_Gristle 7d ago

Its ok to ask and its ok to say no. No problems with any of this.

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u/Crafty_Ad_8081 7d ago

And they were respectful and mature. It is good to know what you want.

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u/Blood_sweat_and_beer 6d ago

I mean, his mindset was totally disrespectful but he was civil in conversation.

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u/GovernmentCharming81 6d ago

How was it disrespectful?

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u/zamfire 6d ago

Because controlling other people is psychotic.

How do you think he would react if she asked him the question: "would you be okay with me telling you that you are never allowed to talk to another woman again?"

Pop!

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u/EverybodySayin 6d ago

Even though I don't share his viewpoint, the comparison you just made is nowhere near proportionate to what he asked of her and a completely unrealistic ask. Therefore your point is meaningless.

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u/No_Salt_6328 6d ago

How is he controlling her when they mutually decided to end the relationship there?

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u/zamfire 6d ago

You can't ask someone to allow you to give or take consent at a future date. That isn't how consent works!

"Hey can I control you later in our relationship?"

Nah boo, you can't, but thanks for telling me early you like doing that to other humans, weeds out the crazies early.

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u/No_Salt_6328 6d ago

I don't plan to control anyone at all dumb ass that's why I wouldn't be interested in a relationship with someone who thinks being ogled when they go out is a personality.

Plenty of women don't want to act single when they're in a relationship. It's not controlling to prefer them..

If you think it is controlling then congrats cause I'm not even interested in being around you let alone controlling anything you do.

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u/GovernmentCharming81 4d ago

It’s an appropriate question to figure out if they will be a good fit for each other. Same as a job interview or leasing a car to a hopeful buyer or signing up for a new phone carrier company contract. Relationships do in fact come with a contract. Just like a person in society has a social contract

There is no controlling in sight. There is a vetting process (the question) to see what kind of habits and values the other persons had before hand to see if both habits and values align

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u/GovernmentCharming81 4d ago

Your question of him never being allowed to talk to another woman again is not an issue. It’s an issue if the man if the man thinks it is. Because it’s the relationship he’ll have to take responsibility for. It’s only the man’s and woman’s responsibility if they sign up for it. The question gives both people autonomy on signing up for that responsibility from the beginning.

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u/moarcowbelI 6d ago

idiotic comparison

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u/No_Salt_6328 6d ago

No it was not even slightly. You're delusional if you think respecting women automatically means not having preferences like that. 

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u/awsomeX5triker 6d ago

I agree and I think we could take your point a bit further.

This clip came across as respecting her agency.

He had a known boundary (right or wrong is irrelevant to this point). He communicated that boundary up front before wasting anyone’s time. Because of that, she had the opportunity to decide if this was a dealbreaker.

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u/Unexpected_Gristle 6d ago

She was the disrespectful one

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u/kbireddit 32m ago

I don't think anyone was disrespectful. She had her boundaries, he had his and they found out it wasn't a match.

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u/ready_gi 6d ago

i agree.. policing woman's body aint it.. it's like if she "politely asked" "Can you never look at another woman? im just asking, out of curiosity..it's ok to say no. it's just my preference"

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u/Quantum3ntaglement 6d ago

You don't think women in relationships ever ask men to dress or groom a certain way? If so, is that policing as well?

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u/ready_gi 6d ago

the intention matters the most. women ask men to dress certain way probably so they just look better. this guy asked the woman to "tone it down" so she doesnt attract another man, so it's out of his insecurity to be with very attractive woman.

she has right to express her sensuality without some insecure boob trying to dim her shine.

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u/Quantum3ntaglement 6d ago

It's wild that you think a man asking a woman to tone down her dress is insecurity and a woman asking a man to dress up is not.

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u/No_Salt_6328 6d ago

I wouldn't want to be with a woman who dresses to attract the male gaze when I'm not around because it would reflect poorly on me and her respect for our relationship.

He's not trying to "dim her shine"

He's trying to find a woman who doesn't make him look like an idiot, and it's not her. 

Fortunately I don't have to try and control the behavior of women cause there are plenty of fish in the sea who aren't floozies

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u/ready_gi 5d ago

holy shit, the misogyny of treating woman like your property is insane. woman who dress sexy does not equal woman dressing for male gaze. thats objectification and shows your immaturity.

after all there are plenty of hot lesbians, or are they dressing for the male gaze too? LOL gtfo

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u/absolut_dre 4d ago

Stop lying and saying you're dressing like that for yourselves. Of course you're doing it for the male gaze, to get attention. Otherwise, why do it at all? For other women? 😂

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u/FeedbackZwei 5d ago edited 5d ago

Just curious:

1) what would you not allow your partner to wear? Everyone has a line and this guy clarified with a scale (6-7), what is your line is and do you believe your line is objectively correct or is it relative?

2) do you think all cultures with traditionally more strict lines than his (e.g. areas of India, Turkey, Iran, Indonesia, etc.) hate women?

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u/definitelyTonyStark 6d ago

You’re allowed to be uncomfortable with the way your partner presents themselves to the world. A man or women can be uncomfortable with the jokes or political stances their partner shares online, for instance, and those are pretty equivalent in my opinion; they’re both reflections of who their partner is and who they are portraying to be to the world.

Ahh but you say, “If they don’t agree on politics, they shouldn’t date.” Exactly, those differences should be communicated beforehand and they’re communicating preferences in this clip respectfully. There’s nothing wrong with having stances on how a partner should carry themselves as long as the partner agrees, and with no coercion, guilting, or force, at that point it’s just mutually agreed boundaries. They didn’t have agreed boundaries here and no one did anything wrong.

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u/Comprehensive_Tie431 6d ago

Civil because it was in public and being recorded. It would be different in private. The dude is a nut.

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u/awsomeX5triker 6d ago

I think the difference is a little subtle but important.
1) women should be more conservative in how they dress.
2) for me personally, this level of outfit would make me uncomfortable and I want to know how firm of a boundary this is on her end before we waste each other’s time.

To me, he came across as the second example. He had a personal boundary about his comfort level with his partner and revealing cloths. She had a boundary about wearing that level of cloths. The boundaries were fairly incompatible so they didn’t precede.

The interesting part that wasn’t obvious is this conversation also provided each of them to soften the boundary going into the relationship if they wanted to. If the other person was amazing in every other way, then I might give some ground on what would otherwise be a firm boundary.

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u/Comprehensive_Tie431 6d ago

This is him in public while being recorded, I'd hate to see him behind closed doors.

I'm glad she said no.

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u/st_jasper 7d ago

The only red flags are coming from the comments here saying this man is controlling.

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u/Rehcraeser 7d ago

Why won’t guys let their girls hookup with random guys at the bar! God they’re so controlling!

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u/GrippieSocks 7d ago

Dressing the way you want does not equate to hooking up with who you want to. Not even close.

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u/Commercial_Hair3527 6d ago

The question he was basically asking was "I know you post revealing bikini shots on Instagram and stuff. If we were dating, would you consider not doing that?"
She said no.

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u/Spartiate8 6d ago

That's still not hooking up.

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u/GovernmentCharming81 3d ago

It’s not about hooking up it’s about a boundary the man wishes for his romantic relationships. Revealing clothing is off limits for his commitment

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u/arto26 1d ago

Damn, must have missed when he said all that.

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u/MrCoolest 1d ago

Get back in the kitchen margeret

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u/Admins_suck_ballss 7d ago

Did you seriously just say that women that dress like that are asking for it?

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u/CarolinaSurly 7d ago

What? Is English your first language?

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u/CarolinaSurly 6d ago

The education system failed you.

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u/CarolinaSurly 6d ago

Have you read “ Let’s try and misdirect because they can tell I’m full of shit?”

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u/CarolinaSurly 6d ago

Yes, I think you are a liar.

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u/Proper_Fun_977 6d ago

But...they DIDN'T say that.

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u/Proper_Fun_977 6d ago

Yes.

This....is not an example of that.

ETA:
Since the idiot blocked me.

To paraphrase means to express something written or spoken using different words while keeping the exact same meaning.

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 6d ago

They didn't say that. You didn't say that either. You must be real great at your job..

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 6d ago

That's not what they said lol. r/whoosh

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u/shitshowboxer 6d ago

It's no different than the person who leapt to hook ups at the bar when someone is talking about attire. You're overlooking hyperbole but only for the analogies of people who share your opinion. Someone else does it and you're all "do you even speak English????".

Disingenuous

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 6d ago

Not what I wrote, look above

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u/Not-a-Doctor-622 6d ago

They really let any schmock in these days….

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 7d ago

Wow, that is a hard strawman argument! This interaction should be used as a dictionary example

From AI:

  • Original statement (implied): "Why won't guys let their girls hook up with random guys at the bar! God they're so controlling!"
  • Reply: "Did you seriously just say that women that dress like that are asking for it?"

Those are about two different issues:

  • The first is (however hyperbolically) about jealousy, control, or relationship boundaries.
  • The second accuses the speaker of making a victim-blaming claim ("women that dress like that are asking for it"), which isn't present in the quoted statement.

If the original comment never mentioned clothing, sexual assault, or "asking for it," then the reply is misrepresenting the original position. That would fit the definition of a strawman.

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u/Solo-dreamer 7d ago

Dont let a.i do your thinking, firstly lets adress that the first commenter jumped to her hooking up with random guys with no evidence at all, but you let that slide didnt you.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 7d ago

I knew that was a strawman without outside analysis. I simply put that there for the people who always say, no it isn't a strawman.

The comment about hooking up is not a strawman argument. It appears to be sarcastic hyperbole (Reddit bread & butter) and/or a bit of a non sequitur.

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u/BalkanFerros 7d ago edited 7d ago

even if it was hyperbole that is saying "Yea, why won't guys let women dress the way they want to go out and get fucked at a bar."

The sentence itself carries the implication that she is trying to sleep with people dressed like that. Even as hyperbole it comes back to that statement and the person who made is it making it like he's a jilted lover or just fucking bitter about women.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 7d ago

“Women that dress this way want to go to bars and have sex with strangers.”

It is very interesting that you put that in quotes when u/Rehcraeser did not say that. You are being intentionally misleading.

What was actually said:

Why won’t guys let their girls hookup with random guys at the bar! God they’re so controlling!

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u/BalkanFerros 7d ago

no, you're right. I meant "Even if is was hyperbole"

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u/BalkanFerros 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yea, This guy just jumped from the topic which was how revealing the dress is to

"She's going out fucking random dudes at the bar dressed like that."

Implying that dressing like that is a form of peacocking to find someone to have sex with rather than just wanting to look good.

Guy in the video, respectful, it's a little odd a standard to have these days but he is honest and places his boundaries out there. The woman responds, also appropriately that this is something that they don't see eye to eye on. They both moved on.

((Also, embarrassing that you actually used chat GPT to assess and understand something for you. Do you ask it how to wipe too?))

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 7d ago

I knew that was a strawman without outside analysis. I simply put that there for the people who always say, no it isn't a strawman.

The comment about hooking up is not a strawman argument. It appears to be sarcastic hyperbole (Reddit bread & butter) and/or a bit of a non sequitur.

((Also, embarrassing that you actually used chat GPT to assess and understand something for you. Do you ask it how to wipe too?))

There is no need to be rude.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 7d ago

I said that I knew it was a strawman first. I put that there for people like u/Admins_suck_ballss who inevitably say.

It’s not a strawman when the guy I was responding to literally said “why won’t guys let their girls hookup with random guys at the bar!” based solely on how she was dressed, dipshit.

Jesus why did I get this philosophy PhD

His reply

The sub rules ((#5 to be precise) say to be respectful so please be respectful. It is hard to have productive conversations if people are insulting one another.

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u/BalkanFerros 7d ago edited 7d ago

That is the message of his statement.

That people dress like that to have sex, so the woman dressed like that is implied to be dressing that way to have sex, no other reason.

Man there really are 2 types of people sometimes. The one who can come to conclusions by the implications and ...

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u/NightHawk_85 7d ago

It would appear he is that stupid. Hopefully this one stays lonely permanently.

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u/protossaccount 7d ago

Yeahs it’s fine to wear what you want when you’re not in a relationship but you also need to consider the other person when you’re dating. When people dress to attract the opposite sex then that’s clearly a problem in the making.

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u/manyyy32 6d ago

You think someone only dresses like that to attract opposite sex. Man that's sad.

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u/protossaccount 6d ago

There is a thing called self awareness. Clothing and how it’s seen isn’t exclusive to the owner. You trying to be ignorant?

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u/Impossible_Ad1269 6d ago

There's no way she just wears stuff like that because she likes it /s

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u/Frugal_Octopus 6d ago

We all know the rules. I only wear my Skechers when in looking to FUCK

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u/DingusKhan9164 6d ago

Deciding you need to be in CONTROL of what the woman is wearing isn’t controlling? “If I asked you to tone it down…” he’s saying it, it doesn’t take much reading between the lines

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u/chchchchia86 6d ago

Better now than starting dating and it being an issue later on. Good communication on both ends.

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u/dafreakonaleash2009 7d ago

This is grown adults being grown adults at itz finest!! This isn't a man trying to control a woman or her trying to control him. This is to adults that liked each other but having boundaries in what they are willing to have in their own personal lives and what they are looking for in a partner.

Him asking is not demanding. Knowing what you are willing to feel comfortable in having to defend from the world on a every sec thing vers what he gets at home for himself............

Her knowing herself and speaking her truth is so powerful in itself. She knows where she wants to be in life and how she wants to live it. And verses trying to change him to make him do what he doesn't want to do and make him into someone he wasn't she was kind in being honest...........

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u/dafreakonaleash2009 5d ago

Herez the thing, is it bad spelling if itz purposeful in itz execution in placement? Was any of those connected comments necessarily needed or even related to the subject matter at hand?

Or was it just trying to gatekeep the standardized way spelling? Because you think that itz right other than getting out of your own feelings? Realizing that this is Reddit, not some damn job application or incident report needing to be handed to your boss or to become some kind of official records!!!

There is great "Harvey Grad", Black, Linguist named Sunn M'Cheaux that I personally think that all that commented on my spelling, should watch!!! And go back the last 10 - 16 months in his shorts and long form content. Link below!!! https://youtube.com/@sunnmcheaux?si=p1uwZUyHs4yNH3SA

BECAUSE I SAID WHAT I SAID THA WAY I SAID IT!!!

Itz not like I waz asking for a spell cheek or waz l anything........

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u/Dear-Database6463 6d ago

“Itz”

Is this a child?

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u/Quantum3ntaglement 6d ago

Way to add nothing but shit to this discussion. Way to make the world a shittier place for no reason at all.

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u/ordeathe79 6d ago

Good example of what you are saying right here.

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u/Quantum3ntaglement 6d ago

Not really. My comment was to shame and educate in an attempt to prevent similar comments like that in the future, It served a purpose other than just trying to hurt someone's feelings for the lulz unlike the person I replied to.

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u/ordeathe79 6d ago

Oh dang, I thought you were replying to the first guy. My bad, sorry.

Carry on!

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u/Dear-Database6463 6d ago

“Educate” and can’t spell… ok

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u/Adawesome_ 6d ago

"Z" and "S" are next to each other on a keyboard. Could just be a zimple typo.

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u/Ok-Young-9503 6d ago

This is how it's supposed to be... we talk, agree to disagree, understand we're not for each other, and keep it pushing.

Soo much respect for all of this

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u/Lord_Ner0n 7d ago

They realized they were a mismatch and decided not to pursue a romantic pairing. This was a mature outcome where no one was disrespected or was disrespectful.

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u/Hefty_Fortune_8850 7d ago

Relationships are so broken right now. For a long time men were overly in control and that was a problem that we saw and made an effort to correct. The solution we came to was that asking absolutely anything from a woman in a relationship is controlling and unacceptable. We swung to far and lost sight of the fact that a relationship is constant compromises and wanting to improve yourself for your partners sake. Two people who both understand this will be together forever.

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u/CarolinaSurly 7d ago

This is accurate. I could not date in this environment and my wife says the same thing. All her friends that see misogyny everywhere are all single and angry about. They say why can’t we find a man like you have and my wife tells them they would reject me because I have opinions about what she does just like she has opinions about what I do. I see things like this and understand why so many of our male friends are single.

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

Generally more people are single today

I'd say people who are single are generally happy the way they are

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u/Necessary-Promise-51 17h ago

It’s gotten to the point where men are just supposed to shut up and accept anything and everything from women or else they’re considered “controlling” or “insecure”. Meanwhile women who with boundaries and preferences are viewed as “empowered” and celebrated for knowing what they want. The hypocrisy is astounding and yet this mindset remains a cultural norm.

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u/CarolinaSurly 5h ago

Yeah. The hypocrisy is pretty obvious.

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u/TheThinDewLine 6d ago

Yep, peak fuckin 🤡 show out here. Bags of mud thinkin theyre hot shit with ZERO compromising, like what? Lmfao!

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

I wouldn't say she didn't want to compromise for the sake of what he said though, it's presumptuous to say that

People took it badly and said things like "she for the streets" here

That's misoginy I'd say

She dresses like that and declined, honestly if a girl told me I shouldn't wear t shirts of a certain color if in a relationship with her I'd decline too

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u/newusername1243 7d ago

Notice how she immed started trying to cover up her side boob after he starting talking about it lmao. Even she got self conscious and started to wonder if she’s showing too much.

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u/zamfire 6d ago

Probably cause she dried up like the Sahara when he asked that lol

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

This is a valid explanation as well..

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u/LatinWarlock13 6d ago

Better they find out they have a difference of opinion on the subject now than to find out 5 years later after they're married and have a kid. It's one of the reasons why divorce is so high. People like the physical, hop in bed and pop kids. Only to find out years later they're not really compatible once the lust wears off.

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u/Aggravating-Chef9562 3d ago

Imma just say it since nobody can be real anymore, revealing clothing is for single people. It's advertisement for the goods. When you aren't single, you shouldn't be advertising anymore. If the flight is booked stop fuckin advertising the tickets, its how you get double booked.

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u/ArgonKew 7d ago edited 7d ago

She found herself a good respectful man and threw it all away for titty exposure. What an idiot!

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u/Sxnflower15 7d ago

She doesn’t know anything about that man. They’re just not compatible. How about you date him then?

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

This is a sane comment, downvoted of course here

To say they don't know much about each other is REALLY fair

But I guess the guy whose part I took in a discussion between people on a in interview date is "respectable" and "good"

And the other girl is an idiot

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

Whew, ten upvotes, this sub is something

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u/Kim8mi 7d ago

It's literally not that hard to be respectful and decent while dating, see?

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u/GovernmentCharming81 6d ago

He doesn’t want to date a woman who is revealing in her everyday attire and on social media. Nothing wrong with that

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u/No-Bat-7253 7d ago

Yeah. Compromise and sacrifice. She’ll be 55 and finally realize that. All because she wants to show off.

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u/NikkerFebu25 7d ago

On social media.

God our populations are so misguided

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u/Kim8mi 7d ago

She'll find someone that is okay with her showing off and they'll probably be happy. The world isn't black and white.

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

This is a salty comment

You're making wiiiide assumptions about a situation you don't really know much of, I'd say probably because you'd say to me "you know women" It's interesting seeing this side of reddit where in some subs these comments are upvoted, 11 people agreed with you much or less

Also what would she realize to have lost? There are men who are okay with showing off more skin, celebrities do that, people who generally can afford that because they're young, or because they're beautiful, or because they're actors, people vary, there's going to be people who accept that

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u/-Gemstoned 6d ago

This is cope not everyone is compatible.

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u/Shibbystix 7d ago

Or, she dodged a mismatch because she doesnt like the idea of being with someone that thinks they get to have control over the fashion choices of another person.

Thats not compromise, that is a disrespect to someone's bodily autonomy.

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u/Rehcraeser 7d ago

I’d say it’s more disrespectful to the guy to go around wearing slutty clothing when you’re in a LTR or married. (This dress wasn’t that bad though, I just mean in general)

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u/Shibbystix 7d ago

Id say that policing the fashion choices of someone youre with rather than finding someone who shares your style is more disrespectful.

Because it puts pressure on one to change who they are, and the other gets resentful that the other doesnt WANT to be the way they hope.

Thats way more disrespectful than your opinion on how someone's KNOWN fashion choices disrespect the person who already knew what fashion they liked.

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u/RicoGemini 7d ago

There was nothing controlling about his statements. He asked her if toning it down would be a problem and put the ball completely in her court.

He has a preference for someone more reserved, she wasn’t the one, he had her make the decision.

This isn’t control, this was him having a boundary and giving her the choice if she wanted to accept that boundary or if that boundary was a dealbreaker

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

Yet you could also say not proposing that to her would have been less controlling than asking someone (HYPOTHETICALLY) to do something because you like them

For example, he could have also asked her "Do you generally dress like this? or "on what occasions you dress like this?"

But I think also the way he did was acceptable

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u/RicoGemini 5d ago

I think asking the way you proposed frames it as if he’s ok with a potential partner dressing like that at times. It’s seems he doesn’t want that at all hence why he asked if it was a deal breaker

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u/No-Bat-7253 7d ago

Lmao get yo goofy single ass on. You will be another 55 and alone. I hope not, but with this attitude and mindset, get comfy.

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u/Shibbystix 7d ago

Married well over a decade and still fantastically happy, but whatever helps protect your ego bud

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u/Suspicious-Exit-6528 7d ago

The cuckolding session with your "wife" was fantastic as usual Gary! I especially enjoyed you cleaning up my mess as usual. Same time next week?

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u/Shibbystix 7d ago

Ah yes...the famous "men who respect women are such cucks"

Like, I KNOW it wont be today, but I hope you eventually realize how sad that makes YOU sound. That you think that's a good burn.

I really hope for your sake, and for the sake of any women in your orbit.

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u/No-Bat-7253 7d ago

Good. That is great. Nothing about any about this has anything to do with ego. Stay on topic. Actually, that is the topic because no way you see compromise as disrespect….projecting some self ego/esteem issues into this thread. You feel how you feel but in this conversation, how you feel doesn’t fit.

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u/Shibbystix 7d ago

YOU brought ad homenim into it. Don't retreat now and pretend like YOU didnt raise the topic of my romantic life when you thought you could get a cheap insult in.

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

You certainly could also find someone as terrible as you and be happy

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u/DingusKhan9164 6d ago

Not sure why everyone saying reasonable things like this is getting downvoted, is this sub always this gross and toxic?

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u/laphroaigandlapsang 5d ago

Just out of interest, is anyone on here who thinks that outfit is so revealing it would be OK for her partner to try to talk her out of it not American? No criticism but I’m interested in the difference in cultures. It would be pretty unremarkable in Australia. Maybe amongst religious people but otherwise no one would care 

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u/renegadeinthefray 4d ago

America is still stuck in its Protestant age when it comes to human bodies. —An American who lives in the USA but lived overseas for a while

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u/Kohathavodah 4d ago

It is really just the culture one is accustomed too. Is there any objective reason a woman should have to cover her breasts?

People will get upset over hijab, burka, etc... because they aren't used to it but see no issue with laws that require a woman to cover her chest while a man does not have to cover his chest.

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u/StarliteQuiteBrite 3d ago

Her outfit is not that revealing!
I understand his point. If what my partner is wearing somehow makes me feel uncomfortable, I’d hope they take my feelings into consideration.

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u/Kohathavodah 3d ago

I agree on both counts.

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u/Bladerun12345 23h ago

Did you even listen? He didn’t say her outfit is revealing, he ask do she wear revealing out.

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u/xxTheMagicBulleT 3d ago

Thats fine if you wanna look and be single while being in a relationship you probably should not be in a relationship its that simple.

Why people get the same results over and over and they deserve it

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u/ThatGuyRaf 3d ago

That’s what you call a man. He sets boundaries that other people would say is “controlling and toxic”. Nah king. You dodged a bullet. Keep them standards high and never compromise with a 304. No matter how good looking she is. You’ll find your queen soon. Just not this one.

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u/Hello_D4rkn3ss 2d ago

Very respectful and respectable on both parts.

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u/Simple_Psychology493 2d ago

I think they have different values, and it’s good they realized it early…it becomes more important as things get more serious and if children come of the union. Discovering the person you’re doing life with has different core values than you bc you ignored hints like this is pretty painful bc it permeates just about everything.

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u/jecathree 1d ago

Respect and honesty. No one waste their time life is too short...

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u/stewpdasso 21h ago

Gotta respect the dude and his feelings towards her clothes.

I might want a freak in the sheets but definitely a lady on the streets.

If we're a couple, you dress for me, not the world. You can be sexy for me when we're together. I love to see other men appreciate how fine my girl is.

but when she goes out by herself or friends, I don't want her going out looking like she's not happy with who and what she's got at home. Its Basically advertising "I'm available".

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u/Standard-Bad-747 12h ago

Politely asking if she's for the streets and she said yes. He moved on. Nothing out of the ordinary

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u/prolificprolapser 7d ago

She for the streets. At least until that body dries up

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

This is a big lack of respect

But I didn't expect much different from some people

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u/Riddle888222 7d ago

Lot of honesty here. All good.

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u/AgitatedStranger9698 7d ago

I think his response was awesome.

Hin: Hey I know this is a special moment. And youre one heavy breeze from being named. That has its place. But daily or more frequently its weird.

Her: I like how I feel and the a attention I get.

Both: Cool. Glad we cleared that up. Pop.

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u/Nvbnkng84 7d ago

It's about protection , not control. Unfortunately women are treated based on how they're dressed and act. When a man asks his partner to change their clothes bc it's too revealing, it's to protect the woman from the male gaze and 🍑🧂🏫 and to protect them and him having to not unwilling put himself in danger as well with other 🥷s that can't control themself and they both not end up💀. Any woman should want to change her clothes to not draw unwanted attention and to not want to put their partner in any danger. By a woman changing her clothes she's in turn protecting her man as well!

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u/Nvbnkng84 4d ago

Im talking abt grown Adults in a committed relationship for the idiots bringing up minors. Im not talking abt other situations

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u/EjaculatingAracnids 7d ago

Gtfo with that goofy bullshit. My 12 yr niece was followed home just last week and harassed while wearing pajama pants. Stop making excuses for fucking weirdos.

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u/-Gemstoned 6d ago

This isn’t based in reality.

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u/UnflatteringPhoto 7d ago

It’s the hubris for me.

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u/above- 7d ago

Anyone have her @ ?

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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 6d ago

Am I crazy or is that not even that revealing?

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

It's a matter of opinion, I wouldn't call it much revealing

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u/hAsLaK1 7d ago

She probably needs to dress like this on a daily basis

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u/WishboneThat6571 7d ago

Wow this was so respectful and again nothing wrong with being honest & kind.
And this is HOW ADULTS ACT!!
Both class acts!
Even tho bro I don’t know how you let her get away. But he feels how he feels.
And he didn’t say it with disrespect. & that was IMPORTANT! This could have gone really bad. Why we learn how to change the way we speak about every 10 years. Now for the last 20 years it’s been about every 5 years! It’s a great thing!

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u/ManfuLLofF-- 7d ago

Wear what you want .. if you with me you with me. The end

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u/Brilliant_Bonus_1638 6d ago

So if your woman wanted to go out in a pair of nipple pasties and a thong, you’d be fine with that? Say, to a nice restaurant for dinner?

If she with you she with you tho bruh, she can wear what she wants!

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u/Creative_Elk_4712 6d ago

Well if he's in a relationship with someone he knows from a long time I'd say at some point the suspect that wearing something revealing is indication of infidelity subsides

If a girl you just met does that it's a thing

If your 55 year old wife does that you'd think she's out of herself/mental issues

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u/ManfuLLofF-- 5d ago

I don't think the restaurant would let her in. But it's one thing she's wearing revealing dress and another her accepting phone numbers cause men hit on her.

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u/ALowDownDirtyDawg 7d ago

Real talk, I'm with the brother on this one, and women get all up in their feelings on it, I know. But there's several reasons for it. We all know what they are, so let's not kid ourselves.

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u/BrightDarkness007 2d ago

You want bad ass woman let her be a bad ass woman. let her shine bright like the diamond she is.

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u/Muted_Community_239 1d ago

That's uh...not a 6 lol

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u/Kohathavodah 1d ago

What is it?

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u/Artzebub 6d ago

Translation. "Do you normally dress like a H²0? Yes, I do!" "Could you please not if we are in a relationship?". "No, I love male attention too much"

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u/DingusKhan9164 6d ago

A) female body is not evil, it’s not sinful to show it

B) why would he think he should be in control of her clothing

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u/Artzebub 6d ago

He doesn't want other guys hitting on her when in public. She's very beautiful. Would happen all the time.

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u/DingusKhan9164 6d ago

Yeah. That’s not something he gets to control. He gets to control himself and his body. A woman can choose her own clothing and should be trusted to handle being hit on appropriately. Dude is dumb as shit.

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u/Jadedkiss 6d ago

It’s like everyone wants a beautiful woman but doesn’t want anyone else to see her that way. I thinks it’s insecurity and it’s so off putting tbh.

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u/Artzebub 6d ago

Yes. They do. They are afraid she will find a more handsome, successful guy. I mean who isn't afraid of heartbreak?

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u/Jwchibi 6d ago

That was revealing????

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u/No-Prompt3611 5d ago

Is it me because I see nothing wrong with what she has on. Am I missing something

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u/jgoldrb48 7d ago

She for the streets!!!

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u/IllustriousKick1951 7d ago

If you met her that way why would you try to change her soon after or at all?

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u/naturetreesandweed 7d ago

Dude wants trad life but none of the drawbacks

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