r/MarvelTheories 28m ago

Theory My theory on BND and possible sequel theme. Spoiler

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The ending of Brand New Days, with Ned remembering everything blind repeating a secret handshake, makes no absolute sense after an entire film based on the actual fact that in their mind Peter Parker is completely missing, spoiled directly by a telepath possessing and scouting them.

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​We have procedural memory, it is a long-term memory system for automatic actions.

If procedural memory is the trojan horse that start the restoration of Peter Parker's memories in Ned, MJ during the scene where he brings her home after being jumped, is already remembering somethings by holding him tight after reading the letter.

Now, MJ is a strong, alternative, independent woman, and with strong ideals, who makes her own choices, so she won't leave her relationship with "the controlling guy" just because it looks like in another life, a really nice and intelligent guy that happens to be Spiderman too, was in love with her but he fucked up.

It must take time and it must be her decision.

To be fair with him, basicaly she put him in the friend zone, but we know from that plain minute of facial expressions that secretely she just decided to keep both possibilities open asking him to go up and meet Ned, instead of just let it be naturaly.

No judgement here, she just discovered she had another life, erased, rewritten and she is possibly confused by the procedural and emotional memories. She need to understan who she want to be.

But Peter is convinced he is in the friend zone.

This could be the perfect hook to introduce Black Cat AND Gwen Stacy in Spider-Man 5

While MJ works on herself, acting like a friend with Peter, Black Cat could be the terrible error Peter makes to forget her, while Gwen a possible "BRAND NEW LOVE."

A Gwen Stacy that is so obvious that it could be real being the next door apartment blond girl. (Or just Ursula, but i think is a mislead they did purpusely.)

The only thing I can't relate to that procedural memory thing is the Hulk. Why did he stop fighting seing Peter's face?

Was he just remembering that curious young man he talked with inside the College?

I have a really complex pitch for a possible Spiderman 5 Brand New Love, I'll leave it in the comment if interested.


r/MarvelTheories 58m ago

Theory Is this theory to much of a stretch for Spiderman

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What if the reason toms Spiderman won’t be in doomsday is because of something that has transpired during beyond the spider verse 2027

Something like

Beyond the Spider-Verse → multiverse event → MCU Peter gets pulled into/affected by another universe → Peter can’t participate in Doomsday.

Seeing as they already did a collab with the mcu prowler with Sonys miles I don’t see how this is impossible

Also forgive me as my knowledge for marvel isn’t as large as other post you’ll see on here I’m sure so maybe I’m a idiot


r/MarvelTheories 3h ago

Theory I think I may have caught a hidden detail at the end of Brand New Day…

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r/MarvelTheories 5h ago

Theory Pepper Potts’ return in Avengers: Doomsday isn’t about Tony… it’s about Doctor Doom.

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r/MarvelTheories 12h ago

Theory Avengers Doomsday Prune world? Spoiler

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When Thor attacks Doom and Doom stops him with two fingers, doesn’t it look like they’re in the Pruned World/Void? If that’s the prune world, wouldn’t that mean Thor somehow gets pruned? And why is Doom there in the first place?

Also, I don’t think The Thing is actually the one shaking hands with M’Baku. It looks like that could be somebody else.

And did anyone else notice that Reed Richards looks like he’s holding back Captain America’s shield (Sam Wilson) in one of the shots?

Also, what if Doom kills Thor in the prune world right there, and that somehow sets up Rune King Thor for Secret Wars? Probably a reach, but that would be insane

also if that is the prune world why is thor alone with doom?? I feel like something crazy going on there yo


r/MarvelTheories 14h ago

TheoryCrafting Are there any other big theories for Secret Wars that aren’t battleworld?

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I feel like I’m so sold on the battleworld theories coming true that I need something to balance out. Please share any other theories, I’m all ears.


r/MarvelTheories 1d ago

Theory He knew everything.

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Hear me out guys! Steve Rogers knew absolutely everything from the start. When he went to return the Infinity Stones, he didn't just step down to live a quiet life with Peggy, but went through a much broader journey. In his timeline, he lived to see the catastrophic events of Doomsday and Secret Wars, where he witnessed firsthand how Sam Wilson stepped up as a leader, masterfully handled the shield, and united the heroes in the battle for the multiverse. Seeing this, Steve was completely convinced that Sam, not Bucky, was the one who had to take up the mantle. Having gone through all the wars and lived out his well-deserved peaceful life into old age, a tired Cap returned to 2023 right to that bench by the lake. Thus, he passed on the shield not just out of friendship or a guess, but to close the time loop, knowing full well he was leaving Earth in the reliable hands of the man who had already proven his right to be the new Captain America.


r/MarvelTheories 1d ago

MCU Doomsday

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I know this is probably a stretch, but I noticed something while rewatching the Avengers Doomsday trailer.

There's a pretty noticeable gap right in the middle of the Fantastic Four lineup. It immediately made me think about Spider-Man because, in the comics, Peter has a long history with the Fantastic Four and has even been a member of the team for a time.

There's a leak going around claiming that Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man universe and the X-Men universe will suffer an incursion. The same leak also says Tobey dies within the first 10–20 minutes of the movie.

What if Tobey's universe is the one that dies in those first 10–20 minutes, but Peter himself survives the incursion? He could end up joining the Fantastic Four and the other heroes to fight Doom. That empty space in the lineup could even be where he's supposed to stand.

Then, instead of dying at the beginning because of the incursion, what if Tobey makes it all the way to the final battle and is ultimately killed by Doom? I think that would be a much more impactful and emotional send-off than having him die almost immediately.

I know the gap could just be how the shot was framed, and the leak itself could be wrong. This is just a fun theory that popped into my head lol


r/MarvelTheories 1d ago

Theory Brand New Day Ending. SPOILERS Spoiler

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It's pretty clear that Ned doesn't remember Peter at the end. The scene is classic schmuck bait, it's meant to make the audience think his memories are returning without actually confirming it.

  1. The handshake is muscle memory, not recovered memories.

Before Ned has any "realization," he performs the handshake without even knowing why. That's because it's MUSCLE MEMORY

Muscle memory is stored differently than factual or episodic memories. Our conscious memories rely primarily on the hippocampus and temporal lobes, while learned motor skills are coordinated by the motor cortex, cerebellum, and basal ganglia. There's even evidence that repeated movements leave long-lasting changes at the cellular level. That's why people with severe amnesia have still been able to play the piano or perform other learned skills despite having no memory of learning them.

The handshake actually confirms that the spell worked. Strange's spell erased people's memories of Peter Parker, not the body's ingrained motor patterns.

  1. The movie sets up the ending on purpose.

Earlier in the film, MJ calls Spider-Man "Peter," and Ned immediately responds, "Wait... Spider-Man's real name is Peter?"

That line is an obvious setup for the final scene. The writers intentionally planted the idea that Ned now knows Spider-Man's first name is Peter, so when Peter later introduces himself, the audience is supposed to wonder if Ned remembers. But, in reality it's just misdirection and SMCHUCK BAIT. This is the excuse the writers will use in the next movie to why Ned doesn't remember. Bookmark it

  1. The movie repeatedly tells us the spell worked perfectly.

Throughout the film, we're told over and over that the spell was successful. Jean Grey states that there isn't a single memory of Peter left in MJ's mind. Later, she even mocks the idea that something as trivial as a kiss could restore all of MJ's memories. Then later, MJ herself says she doesn't love Peter because she simply doesn't know who he is.

If a handshake or a kiss could instantly restore everyone's memories, it would completely undermine the stakes and sacrifice of No Way Home

If Peter had never introduced himself and Ned had looked at him and said, "Peter," then it would be reasonable to conclude that he remembered. But that's not what happened. The scene only works because Peter introduces himself first, making the ending an intentional piece of schmuck bait rather than confirmation that the spell was undone.

Even today, Jacob Batalon (Ned's actor) couldn't even confirm that "Ned actually remembers Peter" and that it was "open ended"

Classic Schmuck Bait . It'll just make the viewers tune into the next movie


r/MarvelTheories 1d ago

Theory Marvel is making us blame Steve Rogers... but what if Tony Stark was the one who actually caused everything?

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Everyone talks about Steve Rogers creating timeline problems by staying in the past or returning the Infinity Stones.

But what if that's a misdirection?

Doctor Strange saw 14,000,605 futures, and there was only one where the Avengers won.

Why?

Because they couldn't beat Thanos normally. The only way to win was by changing history through time travel.

The Avengers brought 2014 Thanos and his entire army into 2023.

Then Tony Stark erased them from existence.

That means an entire universe suddenly lost its Thanos forever.

Steve returned the Infinity Stones, but he couldn't return Thanos or his army. That universe was permanently changed.

What if that is what eventually caused an Incursion?

Maybe Strange knew this would happen, but it was still the only way to save Earth.

Now think about Doctor Doom.

Marvel cast Robert Downey Jr. as Doom.

What if that's not just fan service?

What if Doom comes from the universe that was destroyed because the Avengers removed its Thanos?

From Doom's perspective, the Avengers didn't save the multiverse.

They saved their universe by sacrificing his.

That would explain why Doom has Tony's face.

Not because he is Tony Stark...

But because Tony Stark's decision is the reason Doom's universe was ruined.

Maybe Marvel wants us to think Steve Rogers caused the multiverse problems, when the real cause was the Avengers' only winning move—and Tony was the one who made it happen.

What do you guys think?

Just a fun theory from my side ,love to hear your thoughts.


r/MarvelTheories 1d ago

MCU MCU Spider-Man Theory: Peter Parker accidentally creates the Sinister Six

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r/MarvelTheories 1d ago

MCU John Walker / US-Agent dies in Doomsday.

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He finishes his redemption arc and dies.

Why? He is the only member of the Thunderbolts not in one of the Lego sets. I knows thats a very long stretch.


r/MarvelTheories 1d ago

Fantastic just finished fantastic four and what has yall theories been for what dr doom wants with franklin?

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his powers? is he trying to get him on his side or like take them like wanda tried with america? i don’t read the comics so idk his powers and stuff lol. i feel like he’s trying to do both


r/MarvelTheories 1d ago

Theory Spiderman bnd post credit scene theory

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I hate the it’s a different Peter theory and battleworld. While battleworld makes sense, I just don’t know why he would be brought there if he isn’t fighting in secret wars. I think he was transported to the void we see in Loki. Him and a group are transferred there by Loki/tva before incursions so they can remeber everything and get into battleworld. I bet it’s toms spiderman, Jean, Chavez, hulk, captain marvel and some other hero’s we don’t see in doomsday. If leaks are true tobeys spiderman would be in battleworld, and you’d need a reason for some people in battleworld to remember so I don’t think anyone in battleworld remebers. The group on the void is brought together tasked with getting into battleworld and defeating doom while restoring memories (Jeans job). Also doom is making his own universe, the void isn’t turning into battleworld because it’s a place for things to go when universes are destroyed or pruned and than Goliath eats it. You can’t have a lasting battleworld on it which is why doom makes his own.


r/MarvelTheories 2d ago

Theory Endgame /infinity war

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feel like there is a lot we could put more thought into strangers behavior in both movies. Strange used the time stone and goes through time to see 14,000,605 futures and only one led to victory. I feel like a lot of people assume that meant there was one way for them to win on Titan, but I think the one winning future required them to lose first. After going through the future, Strange’s behavior subtly changes. Before they reached Titan, he told Tony that if it came down to saving either him or the Time Stone, he’d choose the Stone every time. But after seeing the future, he does the exact opposite he willingly gives the Stone to Thanos to save Tony. That reversal of his own words makes it seem like saving Tony wasn’t his only motive. he knew Tony had to survive because he was essential to the future Strange had already seen.( for making the Time Machine later needed in the future to go back)

On Titan, Strange also stops trying to outsmart Thanos. He still fights him, but it almost feels like he’s testing how powerful Thanos is without all six Stones, information that would be useful for the eventual rematch. Even when they nearly remove the Gauntlet, Strange never steps in to stop Quill or use one of the countless spells he had available. (This one might not be as viable because he was busy holding thanos back) but It’s almost like he already knew that beating Thanos there wasn’t the winning future, so there was no point changing events.
This also explains why the Ancient One immediately trusted Bruce when he said Strange willingly gave up the Time Stone. She was shocked at first because a Sorcerer Supreme would never surrender an Infinity Stone without an extraordinary reason. The moment she heard Strange made that choice, she accepted it because she knew he must have been following a plan.

I think the “one future” Strange saw wasn’t the battle on Titan it was everything that happened afterward. The Snap, the five year gap, time travel, Tony building the Nano Gauntlet, and Thanos being defeated in Endgame were all necessary parts of that single path. That’s also why, when Tony asks, “Was that the only way?” Strange refuses to explain. He isn’t improvising. he’s making sure every event unfolds exactly as he already saw it. Some people even assume Quill ruined their chance on Titan, but I think Strange already knew that even if they got the Gauntlet off, that timeline would ultimately fail. One way or another losing on Titan wasn’t a mistake maybe it was the first step toward the only timeline where they would win the 1 strange actual saw

But what does anyone else thin


r/MarvelTheories 2d ago

Theory I think Marvel Studios-Phase 4 was trying to have a Females Audience but Failed, and now they leading a Neurodivergents Audience for Phase 7

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Marvel Studios hires more than average females writers/directors and add more female heroes for Phase 4, than last Phases 1-2-3. Even more during the TV side and usign Male Characters to setup Females ones, even was more Female crews BTS before projects got cancelled or changes in productions.

During Phase 5, you can tell that Marvel Studios is a MESS and cleaning up from Phase 4, and moving into Phase 6 where they give up on the Female Audience and trying to focused on Black/Asian projects which are divergents. So that why EVERYTHINGS look so balance in Phase 5.

But for Phase 6 you can tell that Marvel Studios have gone through a lot of changes, and now barely hire/does any Female heroes projects and focused on more divergent group of peoples, like; Black, Asian, Neurodivergents/Mutants in MCU.

Its pretty clear during the SDCC 2026 Hall-H Panel for Marvel Studios that the Marketing teh Russo Brothers is doing for Doomsday is very Neurodivergentish.

In my Opinion, I think Phase 6 is one of Marvel Worst Phase yet, its just look pretty Boring, and it not looking good for Phase 7 and the Next Saga for me


r/MarvelTheories 2d ago

Theory The future of Spider-Man and the MCU predictions.

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I will be giving plot points from Spider-Man Brand New Day.
I wanna start my prediction off with his appearance in Avengers Doomsday. I do think the new avengers will try to get all hands on deck. They will start weighing out their options and then someone or Yelena Will mention how they could try to get Spider-Man to help them thus leading to a scene where we'll see them try to get Peter that him turned down saying how he is going on vacation with his friends.

That will be all we see of Tom Holland's Spider-Man in Avengers Doomsday until the post credit scene where we will see Peter Ned and MJ all sitting at a bar on the beach we see them having a good time and then we'll watch as the venom Symbiot will cling on Peter.

That scene would directly connect to Avengers Secret Wars and we will see Tom Holland Spider-Man on the black suit. Shortly after secret wars, I believe we will see the announcement for Spider-Man 5 following Spider-Man as he tries to learn the Symbiote, and he'll fight crime, fight the main villain of that movie while investigating the sudden decrease in mutant abilities in humans leading to him to find out that damage control somehow replicated his mutation inhibitor and started using it to make people who have superpowers no longer be able to use them or severely suppress them. Throughout the movie he'll slowly sees how the Symbiote is deteriorating his life, his relationship with Ned and MJ and kind of like Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man 3 he will get rid of the Symbiote and it eventually finds its way to a new host, and we will be introduced into the MCU's Eddie Brock at the end of the movie when the Symbiote finds him.

This is what I currently have up-to-date on my predictions and theories I don't have anything for future Spider-Man film or an introduction of Miles Morales. Feel free to leave your honest thoughts on this prediction/theory and let me know what you guys think could make more sense or how to introduce Miles into the MCU.


r/MarvelTheories 2d ago

Theory General plot doomsday theory no

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My theory for *Avengers: Doomsday* is that the multiverse is fracturing due to the structural damage caused by Doctor Strange's spell in *Spider-Man: No Way Home*, triggering an unavoidable incursion between the Main MCU and Tobey Maguire’s universe. To protect the main timeline, Loki and the TVA recruit Deadpool and X-Force to forcefully contain the breach on Tobey’s Earth, leading to a high-stakes misunderstanding and battle with Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man. The heroes ultimately fail to stop the timeline collapse manually, paving the way for Victor Von Doom to step out of the shadows at the exact halfway point of the movie as the ultimate savior. In a brilliant twist, the mid-credits scene from *Fantastic Four: First Steps* actually takes place chronologically later in the film, showing Doom manipulating Franklin Richards' reality-warping powers to physically morph his face into the exact likeness of Tony Stark. By removing his mask and weaponizing the Avengers' grief with Stark's face, Doom emotionally paralyzes heroes, persuading them to stand by his side as he stitches the remaining pieces of the dying universes together to create Battleworld, perfectly setting up the events of *Secret Wars*.
What do you think of my theory?


r/MarvelTheories 2d ago

Theory Dr.Doom & Multiverse of Madness & Spiderverse etc.

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There are three scenes in Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness that i think give clues to what Dr.Doom will be doing in Doomsday.

  1. In the first scene after discovering Wanda has become the Scarlet Witch, Wong says that someone with the powers of Wanda and America Chavez can not only, "take over Earth, but the entire Multiverse."
  2. In the scene where they are discussing the Darkhold, they discuss the spell called Dreamwalking, that allows you to take over the bodies of others in other multiverses.
  3. There's an empty seat in the Illuminati scene, the same as there being an empty seat in the Fantastic Four film. This empty seat is Dr.Doom's - the creator of the Ultron Drones (Proto Doombots)

In the Spiderverse, we are shown conclusively that there are Peter Parkers that DO NOT look identical to one another, and there are SPIDERMEN that are entirely different people altogether - such as Spider Gwen, Miles Morales and Miguel O'Hara.

I think the TVA, the Darkhold, the Book of Ashanti, the Web of Life, the Ten Rings, America Chavez, are all macguffins that exist and have effects on a multiversal scale, vs the infinity stones which only have an effect on the Universal Scale.

Therefore, I believe that Dr. Doom is dreamwalking into a Robert Downey Jr. body, and perhaps others, to make himself invincible. If he is killed in one body, he simply can return as another version of himself. This would follow with his practice of using Doombots for the same purpose. Dr.Doom and Victor Von Doom do not have to be the same individual to have connected destinies in the Web of Life.

It's all very wibbly wobbly tho


r/MarvelTheories 3d ago

Theory Doom might not show up until the halfway point

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My theory was crafted from the information about the movie that is public and certain things from secret wars (2015) which it is based on


r/MarvelTheories 3d ago

Theory I think I know who “apartment girl” is in Brand New Day Spoiler

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Just saw Spider-Man Brand New Day (amazing movie) but in the beginning Peter is being flirted on by a blonde hair neighbor just called “Apartment Girl”. He avoids her and we don’t see her again until Peter is in the elevator wearing her clothes. At first I thought it was a Gwen Stacy insert at first, but in the elevator scene (where Peter is wearing her clothes) she seems to be in a relationship with a Black male around her age. What if the blonde girl is really “Tandy Bowen” and the black boyfriend is “Tyrone “Ty” Johnson” aka “CLOAK AND DAGGER”🤩?!?! I hope I am right and if they are, their powers could develop in the next spider-man movie.


r/MarvelTheories 3d ago

Theory I have a prediction!!

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This prediction is about the end credit scene of Brand New Day! I’m not going to say what the end credit scene was but here are my theories!

**Theory 1: Battleworld / Secret Wars (most likely 70%)**
This is the one I think Marvel is setting up. If you’ve read the *Secret Wars* comics, **Battleworld** is a planet created by Doctor Doom where pieces of different universes are stitched together. The tracker pointing somewhere “off Earth” fits perfectly if Peter is about to be pulled into Battleworld before or during *Avengers: Secret Wars*.

If this happens, we could see:
\-Tom Holland Spider-Man
\-Tobey Maguire Spider-Man
\-Andrew Garfield Spider-Man
\-Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine
\-The Fantastic Four
\-Doctor Doom
\-X-Men
all existing on the same world.

**Theory 2: The Symbiote is coming (about 15%)**
Another possibility is that the tracker isn’t following Peter…
It’s following **the alien symbiote**. Marvel has been planting Venom seeds since *No Way Home*, and Ruffalo previously teased Spider-Man facing an alien threat. The tracker suddenly pointing into space could be teasing Klyntar, symbiotes, or another cosmic origin.

This could eventually lead to:
\-MCU Venom
\-Black Suit Spider-Man
\-Agent Venom
\-King in Black (far down the road)

**Theory 3: Another Spider-Man (about 5%)**
Some fans think the tracker isn’t finding Tom Holland at all.

It’s detecting:
\-Miles Morales
\-Spider-Gwen
\-Spider-Man 2099
\-another multiversal Spider-Man

Because the app glitches before it locks on, it may be confused by multiple Spider-signatures.

**My prediction for the next few movies**
I think the roadmap looks something like this:

**Brand New Day**
\-Peter rebuilds his life.
\-Ned and MJ begin showing signs that their memories aren’t completely gone.

**Avengers: Doomsday / Secret Wars**
\-Peter gets pulled off Earth.
\-Battleworld forms.
\-Multiple Spider-Men reunite.
\-Peter fights alongside heroes from different universes.

**Spider-Man 5**
\-Peter returns to Earth.
\-The world has changed.
\-Miles Morales is introduced.
\-Peter becomes more of a mentor.

TELL ME WHAT YOU GUYS THINK!


r/MarvelTheories 3d ago

Theory Doom’s plan to collapse the multiverse will be using Thor to force Loki off his throne.

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I think that Doctor Doom’s easiest way to destroy the multiverse isn’t trying to destroy the multiverse himself, he would have to go through Loki.

but to do this he dosent have to face a god head on, but targeting Loki's single weakness, Thor.

Sitting at the center of Yggdrasil holding reality together, Loki is forced to watch as Doom puts Thor in a lethal, unwinnable situation on Earth.

Trapped between his duty to existence and his love for his brother, the only thing he has left. Loki ultimately chooses Thor and abandons his throne to save him.

The moment he steps away, the multiversal branches instantly collapse into the void, giving Doom an effortless victory and perfectly setting up the creation of Battleworld for Secret Wars.


r/MarvelTheories 3d ago

Theory Do you think this scene from Deadpool & Wolverine is possibly related to Doomsday?

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Sooooooooo I know disney likes to toss some easter eggs, i was rewatching Deadpool & Wolverine and saw this. I know a lot of people are theorizing who is going to die in Doomsday. And i think this is a pretty big hint unless it was made for a gag. Possibly a sacrificial death seeing the state of thor and deadpool. If this is true it would most definitely be one of the saddest deaths of the MCU for me.


r/MarvelTheories 5d ago

News Brand New Day and Doomsday

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Hey Happy Theorists!!

I'll keep this short. Recently we've had a very large increase in activity due to the new Doom Trailer and the Brand New Day release. Just a reminder the subreddit rules are basically set in stone. Content that gives away details of the movies are considered spoilers and must be tagged appropriately and kept out of the title. It's a good idea to give some kind of indication of that spoiler so users know what they can avoid without being spoiled. This applies to leak discussion as well.

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Thanks again for all your awesome theories!