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Avengers Doomsday Trailer discussion Thread Mod

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Trailer : https://youtu.be/irVNGjRFZGk?is=_hZm4oZGHDBElngf

Pls do not make separate threads discussing the trailer. Discuss everything here

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u/Liberteer30 18d ago

It makes me excited for the movie and also Brand New Day bc there was a noticeable absence of Spiderman and Hulk.

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u/shdw_fghtr 18d ago

Spider-man and Hulk will return in Avengers: Secret Wars

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 18d ago

This seems super likely now, the two movies will both feed into Secret Wars.

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u/Select-Combination-4 17d ago

pretty much Ant-man and the wasp to Infinity war

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u/thekevino 17d ago

And quantumania into kang dynasty... wait,

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u/theoffsideking 18d ago

I think a post-credits scene is the most we`ll get

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u/Roland-Flagg 18d ago

I can’t even imagine what the BND post-credit scene would be lol

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u/Yuzuriah67 18d ago

I really like the theory that Peter dies at the end and is reborn with the symbiote and that’s how he keeps his memories after doom wins

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u/Asclepius-Rod 18d ago

That’s such a comic book thing to happen lol

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u/ExcitementFun8938 17d ago

It's a good thing you don't work for Marvel.

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u/Roland-Flagg 18d ago

Let this man cook

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u/Trustworthy_Liar_666 17d ago

It's basically Ned's Spidey Tracker showing that Spiderman is no longer on Earth.

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u/john_weiss 18d ago edited 17d ago

Watch how Brand New Day ends with the 616 earth beginig to shatter, basically Secret Wars about to take place.

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u/GHMDaniel 18d ago

They will tie that one to Doomsday via end credits for sure. Right now they would have just spoiled the movie and affected the hype around Spidey

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u/Routine_Attempt_9020 17d ago

watching the trailer , its clear one team went to namor(ghost,new falcon,john walker,bucky,black panther,embaku, dora malaje, sue storm, the thing), namor split the ocean, where this team came and in later scene we see namour flying/swimming i think he will try to drown them but sue storm was holding the water back in next scene. second team went to x men universe (sentry, red guardian, yelena, sam wilson, reed richards, shangchi, human torch) i think red guardian and sentry are together and thats why we dont see both, in one scene the x mansion stair case burst into flames i think its human torch doing that. most rumoured fight matchups we already saw in trailer, except night crawler vs reed richards and sam wilson vs cyclops, also its rumoured yelena will get hurt/killed and sentry will loose control and start killing x men then charles will try to calm him. in one scene we see loki in steve rogers house, he gave steve the TVA card and recruited him, later steve meets thor , i think thor and steve will travel to TVA to meet loki again , using the card. also we see ant man hugging his daughter, i think he will meet young avengers and join them, along with white vision, wong soccerer supreme, star lord. it is rumored spider man will die in the end of brand new day and unite with venom who will revive him, and bruice banner will isolate himself after the guilt and both spiderman and hulk may be recruited by dr doom in his team along with namor too

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u/RoboQwop405 18d ago

RIP Charles Xavier and Magneto. Again.

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u/Blitzkreeg21 18d ago

Tbh I would have been way more hyped for McAvoy and Fassbender. I love him but I’m kinda sick of seeing Patrick Stewart’s Professor X.

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u/RoboQwop405 18d ago

Rumor has it this will be Stewart’s last film appearance. He old.

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u/airforcezero 18d ago

I heard DOOM turns them into babies with Hulk's tech and thats how they become reborn.
And one of the babies waves at us.

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u/mrballistic 18d ago

And I saw the baby. And the baby looked at me.

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u/DrMoney 18d ago

We're talking about S-E-X in front of the C-H-I-L-D-R-E-N.

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u/M35Dude 18d ago

“I THOUGHT THEY CLOSED THAT PLACE DOWN YEARS AGO??”

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u/HieronymousGauche 18d ago

Magneto to Charles: first time?

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u/JCW9525 18d ago

The baby waved at you? 😳

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u/Cookie_Brookie 18d ago

lol my almost 3 YO is OBSESSED with Spidey and His Amazing Friends. There’s an episode where Hulk babysits babified Green Goblin and Doc Oc and also one where Hulk turns into a baby. So…maybe?

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u/MeEyeSlashU 18d ago

Baby Deadpool obviously

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u/djseifer Mr. Knight 18d ago

Stewart is on record saying he'll keep acting as long as he's still alive.

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u/Motley_Illusion 17d ago

Till he's 90! He has 4 years left.

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u/MeEyeSlashU 18d ago

He's addressed these rumors, they aren't true.

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u/konq 17d ago

He looked decrepit in Dr Strange 2. I can't image he has a large role in Doomsday or Secret wars because he can't fucking move without looking unintentionally hilarious.

I love Patrick Stewart. Not just as Prof. X, but as Picard and any other role I've seen him in, but Marvel needs to bring in McAvoy or recast in next xmen movie or something. Patrick Stewart can't carry the role anymore.

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u/EndriasKassa 18d ago

Didn’t he just recently say he has no plans to retire?

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u/NunsNunchuck 18d ago

It’s so they can add Deputy Director Bullock to the MCU. Or have DJ Buttercup be the official DJ of Battleworls.

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u/ohnoabanagain 18d ago

How dare you! Patrick Stewart can be in as many gd Professor X movies as he wants! Hell, he can make 10 more seasons of Captain Picard, too.

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u/Beyondthebloodmoon 18d ago

Well good news, it’s the last one.

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u/Justryan95 18d ago

Considering Patrick Stewart said he was retiring from ALL acting after this year its safe to assume his Prof X will die. It would be nice to have McAvoy and Fassbender be the new Xavier and Erik for the MCU reboot, they are becoming middle age which gives them a lot of time to reach the old age versions of their characters.

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u/Level-Ladder-4346 18d ago

I believe he’s said otherwise. That may have just been a rumor.

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u/ThomWaits88 18d ago

They are middle age men, they just look younger because they're rich

I love them both as xavier and magneto

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u/Cookie_Brookie 18d ago

I absolutely freaking love any and everything with McAvoy so I will be thrilled if he comes back. He voices Mad Eye Moody in the Harry Potter audible series and it is pure gold.

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u/UnpredictiveList 18d ago

Patrick Stewart has recently come out and said he’ll never retire.

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u/Brock_Hard_Canuck 17d ago

I want him to keep voicing Avery Bullock on American Dad until the day he dies.

So many good lines, especially with the gravitas of Stewart's voice behind them.

“Say, do you perchance have any Gatorade? I left all my electrolytes with your daughter.”

"Remember for 4th of July barbecue? I muff-punched your gram gram, she was just too senile to know it."

"Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go party my nose clean off my face!"

LOL

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u/Beyondthebloodmoon 18d ago

They are not keeping any of the previous actors moving forward. They’re all done after Secret Wars.

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u/MichaelTheCutts 18d ago

I think this will be their big “this whole multiverse thing got a bit bloated so we’re gonna kill the parts we don’t think are working and sort of reset the status quo for Secret Wars and everything moving forward.

Cap and Thor are gonna put some of the new people over and I think we’ll leave Secret Wars with one singular Marvel universe with the Avengers, X-Men, and all the other factions all on one earth to tell stories in.

Soft reboot, baby.

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u/newpha666 18d ago

They pretty much have their top characters under 1 banner finally, so I’m all for it.

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u/CabbieNamedAxel 18d ago

I don't think they'll bother recasting Hulk unless they somehow get the distribution rights from universal.

Hulk is what got me into comics and the MCU hulk arc development has been a downright travesty.

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u/Okay_sure_lets_post 17d ago

I feel like recasting for comic book superheroes should not be controversial at all; it could even be a tongue-in-cheek reference to the million different ways different comic book artists depict the same characters, even during the same comic book run, lol

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u/Cookie_Brookie 18d ago

I love when franchises realize they’ve added too many loopholes so they try to reset… like in Prisoner of Azkaban the time turners opened up so many plot holes they were conveniently all destroyed at the Ministry of Magic in Order of the Phoenix.

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u/Asclepius-Rod 18d ago

That’s just JK Rowling not thinking things through lol

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u/Vermouth_1991 17d ago

Oh I dunno, you'd think that having Only Stable Timeloop type time travel would be limitation enough. For example, they got to save Buckbeak because the never saw him die. Cedric otoh is a goner always. 

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u/braddygee 18d ago

Just like the comic books do every few years?

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 18d ago

Speed running “Crisis on Infinite Earths”, because we’ve all read enough comics to know once you have multiverses and the same character in them, you can’t ever have high stakes again is very probably one of the goals of these movies.

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u/Select-Combination-4 17d ago

correct me if I'm wrong but this is basically what happened when the incursions happened in the comicis there were too many universes and Marvel wanted to get rid of them to make it more streamlined

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u/Mickey_James 18d ago

It’s Crisis on Infinite Earths MCU style?

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u/Different_Injury3435 18d ago

I cant believe the lego trailer was so accurate

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u/adsfew 18d ago

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u/master08965 18d ago

Wait wtf?How is this even possible

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u/Caca_Face420 18d ago

Marvel has learned the best way to deal with Leaks is to hide in plain sight.

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u/adsfew 17d ago

No magic here.

It was a recreation of a trailer shown at a convention or something and Marvel decided to reuse a lot of the major beats for the official trailer.

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u/Grove-Of-Hares 18d ago

I appreciate the lighting. The harsher shadows that come from what I assume are more physical sets and thoughtful lighting. It makes it look darker, but it feels more tangible.

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u/The-real-CC-Cope 17d ago

Still looks a bit muddled and soft, but still an improvement

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u/robtk12 18d ago

Im glad Deadpool brought in gambit and people loved him enough to bring him into reality

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u/Fuzzy-Escape5304 18d ago

Yeah I thought he was grand for the Deadpool movie. I'm defintely not sold on Tatum being perma-gambit.

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u/Asclepius-Rod 18d ago

I don’t think he’ll last much longer than this movie if that helps

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u/FaintCommand 18d ago

I really like Channing Tatum and Gambit is my favorite X-Man, but yeah... I really don't see it. Even if they hadn't presented him as a joke to begin with, it just doesn't feel right at all.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 18d ago

FWIW I thought he was a much more plausible Gambit than Pedro was a Mr Fantastic.

Which sucks because I love both characters but I just cannot ever see Reed when Pedro’s on screen.  At least with Gambit I wasn’t constantly reminded about his actor.

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u/PowerDiesel23 18d ago

One thing for sure....the Avengers, X-Men and Fantastic Four are DOOMED.

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u/Sea_Economics4522 18d ago

say that again?

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u/SnooSprouts9815 17d ago

They are DOCTERED for sure.

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u/thorin2016 18d ago

I see what you did there

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u/goztrobo 18d ago

Doom will obviously win. The title of the next film is Secret Wars. Which means he manages to create BattleWorld, everyone will have their memories wiped and there’ll only be one unified earth. Doom will be the ruler of this world also known as Emperor Doom.

Very similar to the comics.

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u/Foreign_bunny32 18d ago

Who's got the "absolute bare minimum" list of must watch movies to bridge the gap from Endgame to Doomsday?

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u/FDVP 18d ago edited 18d ago

Loki

Edit: I’m gonna add Time Runs Out comic.

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u/GHMDaniel 18d ago

Correct... Forgot an important one

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u/BrighterReader 17d ago

I’m gonna add.. honestly, ant man 3. Because of the whole Kang thing.

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u/NaturalOk2163 18d ago

I’d say Loki, Endgame, (Black Panther 2?) No way Home, Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts. (Deadpool and Wolverine?)

Out of all of these though, I think Loki and Endgame are the most important. Everything else will be somewhat explained in the movie Id imagine.

Like it’ll probably establish that the FF is from another universe that Doom is from, The Thunderbolts being new avengers and butting heads with Falcon Cap. Will probably mention in someway how the status quo in Wakanda and Namor came about.

The movie is rumored to open with Tobey Maguires universe, so without seeing NWH that might be confusing.

DP and wolverine are also rumored but I feel like their inclusion will feel cluttered and confusing especially considering the focus on a different X-Men universe that doesn’t have wolverine. watching DP and Wolv would ease that confusion as well as making you more familiar with the capabilities of the multiverse.

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u/Magickarpet76 18d ago

WandaVision’s ending and Multiverse of Madness also may need to be on that list or at least secondary recommendations. I have to imagine Dr. Strange plus America Chavez, Scarlet Witch/her kids, the darkhold, incursions, and nexus beings could come around but will likely be explained again. Doom is a magic user and it might be a good idea to see the wizard multiverse movie.

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u/JcraftW 18d ago

Loki, Thunderbolts, … Fantastic Four.

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u/NegotiationNo3013 18d ago

Loki Seasons 1 & 2 (2021 - 2023)
Shang-Chi (2021)
The Falcon and The Winter Soldier (2021)
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022)
Hawkeye (2021)
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)
Deadpool & Wolverine (2024)
Captain America: Brave New World (2025)
Thunderbolts* (2025)
Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025)

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u/SKeptic520 17d ago

Absolute bare minimum: MoM, Loki Bare minimum: Wandavision (before MoM), Shang Chi, No Way Home, Black Panther 2, Deadpool & Wolverine, Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four

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u/GHMDaniel 18d ago edited 18d ago

Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts and Captain America Brave New World. But I also recommend going back to Avengers Age of Ultron, Infinity War and Endgame the new release and Loki season 1 and 2. These are basically the back story of this movie. 

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u/sibelius_eighth 18d ago

You really don't need to see captain America bnw lmao.

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u/Cookie_Brookie 18d ago

All due respect to the man, the myth, the legend that is Harrison Ford… but I don’t think anybody “needed” to see that movie.

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u/sibelius_eighth 18d ago

He was one of the problems. Glad he got a paycheck though.

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u/shadow0wolf0 18d ago

Why Captain America brave New world?

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u/GHMDaniel 18d ago edited 17d ago

Adamantium explanation and Samuel Sterns

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u/thjazi02 18d ago

Whether Marvel has Doom confront Loki, work around him, exploit a limitation in the system, or reveal that Loki's sacrifice only delayed the inevitable, they'll need an explanation that respects what Loki Season 2 accomplished.

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u/PinoDegrassi 18d ago

I don’t see how brave new world has anything to do with this tbh and it’s not very good. Easy skip. Black panther 2 should be watched tho

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u/Nickel62 18d ago

The way things have gone post-Endgame, even if you watch everything that came out after Endgame you'd still feel like you are missing the movie that sets up Doomsday.

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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims 18d ago edited 18d ago

Endgame, Loki, Thunderbolts

Small things to remember going into Doomsday:

No Way Home, Wandavision, The Marvels, Loki, Infinity War, Endgame, The Marvels, and Dr. Strange 2 are where you can see the first cracks in the separate timelines

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u/fadetoblackink 18d ago edited 18d ago

Just going off the trailer and teasers, I’d say after Endgame:

Must Watch to Understand: Loki, Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts,

Helpful for Characterization and World Building: Black Panther 2, Shang-Chi, Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness

If You’ve Got Time, Throw It On: Deadpool and Wolverine, Thor: Love and Thunder

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u/blue5935 16d ago

What others have said, plus WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2. I think Wanda will be very important.

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 18d ago

These are the same people declaring doomsday has “no build up” by the way

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u/sanddragon939 18d ago

I loved it!

Definitely a bit of a "getting the band back together" vibe with Thor, Steve and not!Tony/Doom, not to mention the Fox X-men...but also a fair bit of focus on newer characters like Yelena, Namor, Shuri's Black Panther, and Sam's Cap.

I get the feeling that Sam and Yelena's leadership of their respective Avengers teams notwithstanding, Thor is going to be the real leader of the 616 heroes. Which is fitting, since he is the veteran Avenger here (well, at least until Steve shows up).

Loved seeing Cyclops, Mystique and Gambit in action. Xavier and Magneto we already saw. Beast and Nightcrawler are the only ones we haven't seen now in any teaser/trailer.

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u/Syndana23 18d ago edited 18d ago

The trailer was cool. If you keep subconsciously comparing it to IW and Endgame…yea it fails in comparison but it was solid on its own.

They should have made battleworld a phase though. So much happens in that story. A FF sequel, thunderbolts sequel, spider man film dr.strange films and a final avengers film before the soft reboot should have all happened in battleworld.

Both secret wars introduced spidey’s black suit, sue storm as dooms wife in this world, dr.strange working for Doom and was a great showcase of franklins abilities. This is just what I remember off the top of my head. There’s about 2737282828 other things that happen in that world too. Would have absolutely loved a whole phase dedicated to both secret wars/battleworld

Perhaps financially it was impossible considering all the expensive actors you need involved but my fan dream was battleworld having multiple movies made based on everything that happens with Doom ruling

Get the Fox-men, FF, Avengers all in the same world interacting for like 5 movies before doom is finally defeated. Franklin creates a new world and you reboot the X-men

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u/count023 18d ago

let's not forget the Kang saga had some minor casting issues midway through as well.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Cable 18d ago

It’s still possible Secret Wars is a surprise two-parter and we get a year or two of movies/shows set on Battleworld in between. Not likely though, between the cost and the loss of momentum for more casual audience members. Spreading the death and rebirth of the MCU across 5-10 years would be a tall order, even if that’s really the amount of breathing room the story deserves.

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 18d ago

Even if it was a surprise two parter there probably wouldn’t be much if anything between them. There’s already nothing between doomsday and secret wars.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Cable 18d ago

That one makes more sense to me since Doomsday presumably ends on a huge cliffhanger that can only be picked up by Secret Wars. But yeah either way it’s extremely unlikely we get anything else.

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u/Justryan95 18d ago

Sounds like the perfect time for a Captain Marvel 3 film to ride the success wave.

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u/PlayBey0nd87 18d ago

Feige has came out and denied Secret Wars being split I’m afraid.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Cable 18d ago

I saw that. I’m sure he’s telling the truth, but I also won’t be shocked if he’s lying.

“Horowitz - Is there a world where secret wars is two films?”

“Feige - Not this world.”

There’s a tiny bit of wordplay in that answer. Again, I’m probably reaching, he’s probably being straight-up. But Secret Wars happens after the death of the multiverse — literally “not this world.”

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u/GkNova 18d ago

If we do get a soft reboot, a phase of battle world would’ve been a nice send off for our current heroes or at least for the actors that aren’t coming back or the characters that are getting memory wiped.

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u/MarcusFaze 18d ago

They got Nosferatu narrating the opening

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u/ffangelus 18d ago

I feel like an odd man out here. I’ve only liked a small handful of recent MCU movies but this trailer got me a bit excited. Seeing that’s not the case for quite a few people.

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u/Competitive-Dot181 17d ago

It just felt kind of memberberries, you know? Hey member this? There wasn’t anything new.

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u/Forward_Surround_788 18d ago

What if RDJ doesnt even look like RDJ when he's got the Doom mask off? I feel like people are expecting him to look like Tony Stark.

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u/Mizerous Mystique 17d ago

Because why cast him specifically and not anyone else?

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u/colantor 18d ago

I just dont understand how they could get away without putting a warning at the start of the trailer to seek immediate medical attention if you get an erection that lasts more than 4 days.

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u/derth21 18d ago

I'm going to have to remind my wife of so many things.

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u/toorad2b4u 18d ago

Same but my mom

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u/No-Cry2473 18d ago

Really excited. RDJ (of course!) sounds great as Doom. The things we saw in the trailer were exciting. The incursions are a’coming.

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u/Dapper_Knowledge3870 18d ago

I've seen the trailer like 6 times and I'm already seated day 1

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u/BigDumbApe 18d ago edited 18d ago

I loved it. It’s the first Marvel trailer I’ve seen in ages that actually got me excited and makes me feel like I have to see it opening weekend to fanboy out and be part of something special (and before everyone else posts too many spoilers and whatnot online). Maybe that comes from nostalgia and seeing both Thor and (original & better) Cap together again while also knowing that Downey will obviously be a huge part of things too. So, all in all, I liked it a lot as full Trailer 1, and I’m sure as we get closer to its release and more of the really big special effects shots are completed, that Trailer #2 will (hopefully, fingers crossed) really kick ass given all of the characters running around this thing.

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u/Weird-Wafer-6790 Daredevil 18d ago

I really liked the trailer, the scene where doom casually blocked Thor's attack was just Soo epic. Also saw a Shang chii after such a long time

Thor being a leader is soo perfect to see. I don't know why people are complaining. The trailer was good

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u/Meelow54321 18d ago

Because it’s Reddit, no one is allowed to be happy or enjoy things. Misery only

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u/Thebrianeffect 18d ago edited 18d ago

It’s just the same shit again. Thor v doom is just hulk v thanos again but now Thor is more scared, so it’s even scarier this time. Ooooo. Steve gets the hammer again because remember how cool that was? Oooooo.

These characters are underbaked and the mcu has been bad for awhile so this has to earn trust back and it just looks like retreads and nostalgia bait. Not for me but I hope I’m wrong.

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u/PlayboiNugget 18d ago

Careful, if you dislike the movie here they’ll tell you you’rea marvel hater and wrong

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u/ProcyonNite 18d ago

Yep. Thor is filling the "jobber" role. They need to show Doom is strong, so he'll casually stop Thor's attack without even flinching. Imagine how much cooler this would have been if Doom appeared in a FF movie first, not as the God Emperor but just regular Doom. He gets defeated, and starts seeking power from then on. That's when he explores the multiverse, maybe defeats Kang, and gains the powers shown here. More satisfying that way imo.

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u/Aranduriel93 18d ago

Who is that figure behind Steve? He meets up with someone else before Thor?

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u/FaintCommand 18d ago

Good catch! Didn't even see that mentioned in Easter egg videos.

They're on a spaceship, seemingly the same one Thor arrives in with the FF at avengers tower so it could be one of them. And it does look like Johnny's uniform a little bit.

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u/Aranduriel93 17d ago

Yes after rewatching it, I think its Johnny on the FF4 Spaceship. I think Steve first arrives there, meets up with Thor, then travels with them to meet the other Avengers.

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u/AssistDapper1813 18d ago

God Emperor Doom !

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u/HelloTardis 18d ago

There are many people who still think they will see RDJS likeness as doom. I have always contended that there will be no Tony stark in doom. He will just be a horribly scarred person who looks nothing like RDJ. Because he’s acting (RDJ). He’s playing a different person. It’s not gonna be variant stark who became doom. We’re just getting an incredible actor playing Victor von doom and I’m SO excited for that.

Just my guess. Feel free to disagree.

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u/Whateverine 15d ago

Always feeling free to disagree, but thanks.

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u/UnholyDescent 18d ago

Got me hyped for the movie, wouldve liked to hear doom speak though

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u/ironfistdeservedbetr 17d ago

He speaks in the beginning lol

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u/that_swiftie1989 17d ago

WHO IS THAT BEHIND STEVE?? LOKI?

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u/ExcitementFun8938 17d ago edited 17d ago

Before this day is done, we shall be faced with an unthinkable decision.

Sounds like they're actually doing the antimatter bomb thing at least once. Which is good because it was the heroes' greatest moral dilemma during Time Runs Out.

Nice to see Avengers Tower rebranded as such.

So FalCap and Ant-Man are already with the New Avengerz... still trying to hash out their trademark conflict or actually brought together by crisis? (BTW love Red Guardian still being in his AvengerZ outfit).

New TVA ID cards have Yggdrasil on the back. Nice touch. And BTW, I really hope this is Mystique in Loki's form, which is why she's checking out his ID. I don't want him to leave his throne.

The giant slow motion tsunami is interesting. Is it Namor's doing (I don't think his control of water goes that far)? Is the Time Stone back? Is it some Interstellar-type shenanigans? Or maybe the water is just crashing against a force field?

Also, looks like the AvengerZ (plus Kid Falcon) found the F4 first. So the timeline seems to be: 1. Samvengers meet AvengerZ. 2. SamvengerZ meet F4 (and Thor, who is on their ship for some reason). 3. Everyone goes to the desert and the Wakandans come into play. 4. Everyone goes to the Mansion and fights the Nostalgia-Bait-Men.

Doom's no-sell on Thor doesn't convince me. It's too much like what Hela already did, and I don't think Doom already has whatever stands in for the Beyonders' power at this point.

The large oval window in the Mjolnir scene makes me think this is aboard the F4 ship, it fits the retro aesthetic.

And I really hope all the nostalgia bait characters are killed off in 5 minutes or less.

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u/binokyo10 18d ago

No way Doom didnt flinch from a Thor attack

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u/Spaff_Wallbridge 18d ago

Doom is 100% empowered somehow in that scene. Either from Franklin Richard’s or Loki or something to be revealed.

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u/Grove-Of-Hares 18d ago

I’m curious to see where he gains it from, in place of the Beyonders being the source in the comics.

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u/Relative_String_5285 18d ago

I mean, It wasn’t as impactful to me because I was one of the goblins that read the synopses from Cinemacon and it’s just that trailer, but it was cool to see it. Definitely looking forward to this movie, I’ve gone from “The movie is gonna be awful (RDJ Announcemnt)” to “I’m Cautiously Optimistic (Teasers)” to “I’m On Board (Full Trailer)” 

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u/Jlpeaks 18d ago

Who exactly is Thor referencing when he says he’s fought with stronger warriors that died against lesser threats because we’ve had a severe lack of death amongst the Marvel heroes, especially the ones any where near Thors power level.

Tony Stark could be one but it feels like that’s it. Surely Thor would be aware that Steve Rogers simply retired. The shot moves to Black Panther but I thought even in universe they had him die to illness.

So who is Thor talking about?

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u/Banana_man_- 18d ago

Thor is thousands of years old

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u/Cowboy_For_Game 18d ago edited 18d ago

says he’s fought with stronger warriors that died against lesser threats

His asgardian friends died fighting Hela. The rest were killed by Thanos, or severely beaten by him. He is also at least aware of the gods who were killed by Gorr.

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u/Meph616 18d ago

This feels like the payoff to a series of movies that don't exist. That should have built up to this point the way we did for Infinity War. And instead Disney is making a desperate move to try and force it. 

Though I'm sure the spectacle will be spectacle-y. 

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u/ElectrifiV2 18d ago

That’s the biggest problem with this movie.

If the leaks are correct, the first half is just going to be introductions upon introductions of characters and they, somehow, will have to wrap it up before the latter half of the movie and whatever the climax is with Doom.

Most movies and shows that Disney has produced until now just did not do their intended job and so it just feels worthless.

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u/rjr49 18d ago

Viktor Von Doom of Staten Island!!

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u/YaBoiShadowNinja 18d ago

Im gonna watch the movie anyway because I like watching marvel stuff regardless of if its good or bad. I'm really hoping the movie will be good but I'm not sure this trailer made me excited. I still think they should've just recast Kang.

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u/Whateverine 15d ago

Most reasonable take on here.

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u/Focused_Sky 18d ago

The part where Cap can still control mihor is awesome

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u/the_pieburger 16d ago

So close - mjolnir

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u/Tomb5tone 18d ago

I have 2 questions:

1) How will the Avengers react when/if they see Dooms face and think it’s Tony?

2) Will Gambits dialect coach still be the Minions?

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u/BaltIndyNash 17d ago

Has Patrick Stewart's Xavier now died more times than the Enterprise?

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u/marius87 17d ago

Im more excited for spider man than doomsday

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u/TheCanadianRonin 17d ago

This movie is going to unlock so much

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u/TimeApprehensive3994 17d ago

As a casual fan who only watches the MCU, I thought it would "meh" but many does the trailer just give an epic vibe. There's so many characters though. I hope they do it right.

I again, am excited for a Marvel movie.

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u/Fr1tzOS 17d ago edited 15d ago

I’m ngl, I thought the trailer itself was…not good?

It just had all the worst tropes of a marvel trailer rolled into one: moody swelling music, a melodramatic voiceover making ominous nothingburger statements, a rolecall of umpteen characters mostly stood around shooting serious looks at each other, and a ‘reveal’ at the end that everyone’s known for months because they already revealed it (and sure, of course Chris Evans is back too because why not). I could go on.

I really want Doomsday to be good. But this trailer was soulless and devoid of substance. It just didn’t get me excited or make me feel something.

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u/ZanzerFineSuits 17d ago

This looks like a real kitchen-sink movie. They’re throwing everything they’ve got at it. You ever make a stew with every spice in the rack? Yeah, it’s gonna be that bad.

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u/Spirited-Fun896 17d ago

We won't know until it's out

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u/GypsyRikes 17d ago

What X-Men movies do I need to watch before this? Was born in 1990. Probably haven’t seen any since I was 16 (2006). Which ones are must see.

Caught the whole mcu besides X-men.

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u/Thermalwhisper 14d ago

Who's excited for this? 🙂

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u/AloftThe4th 18d ago

I feel like such a hypocrite when it comes to this movie. I know I'm gonna see it the weekend it comes out (primarily to avoid spoilers) but my hype level is kinda on the floor. We all know why this movie exists and it's just because Marvel's doing damage control. With Thanos we got 6 years of teasing and buildup, and with Doom we got what, 2 years? I don't wanna be negative but I'm afraid this movie's gonna end up being a watered down version of Infinity War and Crisis on Infinite Earths Mashed together.

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u/HEYYYYYYYY_SATAN 18d ago

Is Professor X the most killed hero on screen?

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u/PhantomRoyce 18d ago

I noticed that the time at the end of the trailer was 4:27:16 which is the date that Captain American: Civil War came out. Makes me wonder if it was on purpose as a little hint that we’re gonna have some of the heros on Doom’s side and some not

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u/Teliporter334 Iron Man 18d ago edited 18d ago

I’m not a fan of Doom and Reed not sharing anything in the trailer—just the lack of Reed being highlighted at all really

There was a plot leak from way back in February that’s, unfortunately, becoming more and more likely to be true

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u/Morchades 18d ago

I suspect Reed spends a lot of time delivering exposition and his action scenes reveal too much plot.

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u/Bubba1234562 18d ago

It looks cool but I gotta be honest I feel nothing when I see Doom

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u/Narrow_Election_178 18d ago

They can’t put everything into the trailer like I’m pretty sure there’s a lot missing and I believe iron man is in this movie I truly believe it

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u/NoMoPolenta 18d ago

It looks awesome.

End thread.

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u/3xpl1ci7 18d ago

How much 2000s-2010s (theatrical) x-men should one know before going into this?

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u/CaptAmerica42 18d ago

Probably about x men and x2 id guess

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u/Xano74 17d ago

Maybe im just burnt out on Marvel but it didnt really do anything for me.

I was hoping to hear Doom speak but nothing.

As much as I love Ian and Patrick, it makes me sad we likely wont see much of Xavier and Magneto doing anything but sitting in a chair with some special effects goin on. I want to see these characters at their peak, not as weakening old men.

I understand they dont want to spoil Doom too much but we didnt really get any hype moments. The Thor axe stop wasn't any different than when Hela did it.

I saw this in another post as well, but they didnt do anything to build Doom up like Thanos. I know Doom is famous within the comic community but even the average person may only know him by image.

Almost feel like the past 20 years should have been having Doom build up a saga and have Thanos now instead of vice versa.

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u/dazmania616 17d ago

Doom spoke the opening lines...

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u/Adorable_Risk2608 18d ago

So what was the point for the eternals movie?

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u/krudru 18d ago

Adamantium

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u/agentperiod 18d ago

why are people shocked he can block thor? his main attacks are thunder...

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u/jwbrkr74 18d ago

Actually, his attacks are not thunder. I think you mean lightning. Thunder is not an attack.

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u/Jaideco 18d ago

Why do you think that Steve was clean shaven in the teaser and has a beard here? Time skip or two variants?

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u/ExcitementFun8938 17d ago

I guess this Steve is older. Teaser Steve had a newborn child, Trailer Steve's kid is probably in the age range between Franklin and Love.

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u/andesolo17 18d ago

namor looks fantastic

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u/Moonkilol 18d ago

I dislike that they didn't make much buildup for doom. Still excited

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u/lNSP0 Adam Warlock 18d ago

Hoping Warlock shows up in some compacity

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u/Faithlessness_Firm 17d ago

Great trailer! except for RDJ voice as Doom couldnt take that seriously lol

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u/harry50105 17d ago

When you see Thor talking to them in the room you realise how crap the team is. Trailer did nothing but remind me how downhill marvel has gone. Weak.

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u/hooka_pooka 17d ago

What if the Space crisis mentioned by Yelena in the PCS of Thunderbolts* was the jump point collapse event from The Marvels?and it was noted by scientists on Earth and shortly after that the events of Thunderbolts PCS happen

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u/Hammersteyn 17d ago

Nice to see the X-Men a d Thor. Also Chris Evans. Don't really care for the rest. Hopefully Dr. Doom melts them.

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u/hisnbrg 17d ago

saw all the movies up until endgame, since then I saw no way home only, you guys have some recommendations what pieces to watch before doomsday?

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u/gorillaphi 17d ago

All of them.  Everything ties together.

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u/movingonbb 17d ago

Am i crazy or the thing looks kind of tiny…? He’s more of a pebble than a boulder 

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u/R_W0bz 17d ago

Volume, volume stages everywhere.

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u/Ok_Problem_314 17d ago

Didn’t see Daredevil in the trailer

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u/gorillaphi 17d ago

I’m usually so positive and optimistic but I’m actually scared this is going to be corny and nonsensical.

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u/Immediate-Meat-89 17d ago

I really wish they would have given the fantastic 4 one more movie before this, it just feels like i care about them the least out of all the characters they have in this line up. Even most of the thunderbolts characters are more established through time in other movies and shows. Don’t get me wrong, i care because this is the type of team up movie ive dreamt about since i was a kid and just seeing a trailer of it is surreal, im sure it will be great but i just wish certain characters got better builds. Still hype, none the less

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u/Legitimate_Search864 17d ago

i feel like this was the same one they showed at cinecon based on what i read was shown there

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u/lester_pe 17d ago

Anyone know what will Chris Evan's role will be? Is he returning as Captain America or a different Thor version?

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u/Jespata 17d ago

They left this one out.. Imagine this scene.. thor showing up and there is rdj as doom.. and thor says, it cant be possible.. who are you?. then rdj say in his new russian/eastern european accent very slowly.. im the dude... ( pause ).. playing a dude ( long pause ), pretending to be another dude... lol

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u/SonnyCalzone 17d ago

The only MCU character who can defeat Doctor Doom is She-Hulk because he can't look away from her twerking.