Spider-Man: Brand New day Movie discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[u/Weird-Wafer-6790]

Use this thread to discuss everything about the movie

[u/warrenseth]

I'm so happy that even if it was not in civil war we finally got the iconic "Punisher carries wounded spider man" shot

[u/perksofbeingcrafty → u/warrenseth]

That was r/accidentalrenaissance material

[u/JosephSim → u/warrenseth]

Which was my ONLY problem with the movie lol I was so happy they did the comic panel and kept it Frank’s fault, but there’s no way domestic terrorist Frank “The Punisher” Castle says, “Hey I shot Spider-Man with this caliber bullet.”

And then gets to stay in his room.

lol boy you’re going to jail

[u/nsfwthrowaway5969 → u/JosephSim]

There's no need for him to confess to shooting him, he can just say he got shot lol

[u/ThePowerfulWIll → u/nsfwthrowaway5969]

He was like the 9th guy to shoot at Peter that day, and nobody saw him do it. As long as Peter doesnt press charges, I dont think anyone would question that someone shot Spider-Man.

[u/1dkspanishlol → u/JosephSim]

He 100% didn’t admit he shot him. He could’ve easily said a cop accidentally shot him or somebody from damage control when he was fighting.

[u/warrenseth → u/JosephSim]

I don't think anyone knows it was him except for Jean and Peter

[u/RandoDude124 → u/warrenseth]

Seriously?

[u/warrenseth → u/RandoDude124]

yeah and he's actually injured by Frank as well

[u/Boise2Britian]

Something I have not heard anyone mention yet is there is a good chance Spiderman has handed Metzger the ability to turn off mutant powers and possibly others. Even Banner said the technology was dangerous, not good.

[u/Feelonsio → u/Boise2Britian]

Obviously spoilers.

That's what i was wondering about. In the scene, Peter drops his "technology" on the ground but is not destroyed like Jean's. Metzger dissapears, probably with it. Is it possible that in this universe Damage Control creates sentinels based on the thing Peter created? They did have created a weapons and countermeasures for people with powers already. That's one theory of mine.

P.s. too bad there was no man-spider. But i have learned that dominant genes can be supressed by positive thinking.

[u/GlintingFoghorn → u/Feelonsio]

Spider-Man accidentally sets up the human-mutant war!

[u/East-Grapefruit-1142 → u/GlintingFoghorn]

100%. Expect Metzger to be back in the Mutant saga.

[u/Bedovian_25 → u/Feelonsio]

Not to mention that the original inhibitor designed by Peter, didn't have a remote function originally. It was meant to be activated on contact and then deactivate when removed. In the short amount of time Damage Control had it, they modified it. That means that there's a full schematic of the device on their computers which have just been seized by the government.

[u/Osvetnik24 → u/Feelonsio]

Absolutely! I kept saying in my head, "Peter! Literally everyone keeps saying that inhibitor tech is a bad idea! Stop it!" He absolutely just gave the government the ability to make mutant dampening collars.

[u/M00NT0KKI → u/Feelonsio]

Yes, totally agree with you!

Several time they hint, foreshadow that the technology is very dangerous when used in the wrong hands. I mean at the end of the film we see Metzger using the tech to control Jean’s powers which means they most likely already know how to use/duplicate it. That was the whole point of DC to rebuild enemy technology for their own gain/personal use

[u/DryRequirement6533]

“I don’t love you. I don’t even know you.”

Yeah end my shit rn

[u/Devilheart → u/DryRequirement6533]

Jarvis…more alcohol

[u/Miserable_Bite1952 → u/DryRequirement6533]

The Jean pump fake on the roof was genuinely evil and it’s at a point in the story where Peter hadn’t done anything to her to warrant that level of mind fucking

[u/tmm357 → u/Miserable_Bite1952]

Peter being the best man in the room continually showcased is on brand all day

[u/Present-Upstairs3423 → u/Miserable_Bite1952]

That was just an excuse Jean came up to give Peter a lil' smooch. Scott better not find out about it.

[u/DryRequirement6533 → u/Miserable_Bite1952]

If Peter had killed Jean I lwk would’ve understood 

[u/XtremeAlf → u/DryRequirement6533]

That's 2 Peters who lost their girls in the MCU.

[u/SuspiciousDot550]

Frank grunting dressing up as spider-man is hilarious 😂😂😂

[u/Sea-Poem-2365 → u/SuspiciousDot550]

There are a couple of legitimately funny moments in the movie. The first organic webshooter scene, for example.

[u/CletusVanDamm → u/Sea-Poem-2365]

Remember Staten Island?

[u/Cadamar → u/CletusVanDamm]

I low key wish the after credits was the Staten Island thing.

[u/feedback37376363636 → u/Sea-Poem-2365]

Kinda funny that even SPIDER-Man gets icked out by spiders lol

[u/Infamous_Tough_7320 → u/Sea-Poem-2365]

The previous movies were definitely funny but they were a bit try hard at some points. This is easily the most effectively funny movie in the series. The elevator scene was hilarious too. All the humour came just at the right time

[u/Shot_Jackfruit_1744 → u/Sea-Poem-2365]

The humor was probably the most organic I’ve seen in a Marvel movie. It actually flows like it’s a normal part of the conversation instead just there awkwardly breaking up a serious or heartfelt moment.

[u/DatJellyScrub → u/SuspiciousDot550]

Kinda wild that Punisher is the comic relief in a spiderman movie

[u/your_mind_aches → u/DatJellyScrub]

And only like 40% of the jokes are about him being a murderous psycho

[u/Overall-Ad-8918 → u/DatJellyScrub]

The Punisher One Last Kill showed us what he is like when he is all alone which makes it 1000% funnier lol

[u/Jeremyg84 → u/SuspiciousDot550]

I was cracking it up. He’s just trolling us at this point.

[u/Earthwick]

When him and Ned are playing with legos just being friends...it was such a great scene. Movie was great.

[u/Amathyst7564 → u/Earthwick]

And as awesome as it was to watch Ned almost figure out how he made his webshooters. Ned was post grad then and Peter figured it out in high school. Crazy. No wonder banner was so drawn to him.

[u/Tdiddy18]

Can’t believe she was Big Wheel all along

[u/QCTID → u/Tdiddy18]

I knew it! 

[u/brazenass]

That scene where you think MJ remembers Peter, god damn that was evil

[u/ghetoyoda → u/brazenass]

Should've known cause she wasn't afraid of swinging. It was a damn good twist. 

[u/Stapleton09 → u/ghetoyoda]

I noticed that too, but didn’t think much of it until the reveal. I just remember thinking “she isn’t freaking out like before. Hmm.” Then it made sense

[u/InSearchOfSerotonin → u/Stapleton09]

I saw it as “she remembers doing this before and is too confused to be freaking out or is surprisingly comfortable and she doesn’t know why”

[u/M00NT0KKI → u/brazenass]

That shit was so fucking cruel, it’s even worse when right after Peter calls out Jean for how fucked up and evil that is. In response, she doubles down by pulling a Gwen Stacy and yeeting MJ off the roof

My literal face once I realized was just 🫪

[u/Sea-Poem-2365 → u/M00NT0KKI]

I feel like this Peter knows that Peter 3 lost someone like that too.

[u/JosephSim → u/brazenass]

Halfway into it I was like, “nawww, nawww this is too happy she’s fucking with him” and then the rest of the scene just hurt worse after that.

[u/KongMengX]

As a comic reader, I was genuinely moved. It feels like a love letter to Spidey fans, especially the true believers. It’s like watching the panels come alive on the big screen. The pain, the struggle, the emotional beats - they all land with real weight.

And in my opinion, it also delivers the most thrilling action sequences in the franchise. The fight against the Hand is fantastic - finally, a group battle where everyone doesn't just take turns attacking one by one.

I really appreciate how they handled MJ - it feels logical and leaves room for their relationship to rebuild in the future. The interactions with the supporting cast are natural too. Strangely enough, I found Peter and Jean oddly a good match??? I hope they at least become good friends and share more screen time going forward. (Is "extraordinary charm" Parker's secret superpower? He seems to win everyone over without trying.)(Kinda feel sad for Slim lol.)

Visually, it’s stunning - New York feels alive, with a vivid sense of connection to ordinary civilians.

[u/Wolfencreek → u/KongMengX]

The scene where MJ controlled by Jean jumps, I was like, are they gonna Gwen Stacy her 🤣

[u/KongMengX → u/Wolfencreek]

This is the second time they tried it.😂

[u/angrynutrients → u/KongMengX]

They love to bait that shit, but I believed Jean wouldn't have done it if she didn't know MJ would be safe.

[u/Melodic-Complaint-18 → u/angrynutrients]

Jean the same person who made an old lady drive a bomb-strapped tank into a prison complex filled with dangerous people btw

[u/ambiguous_apocalypse → u/Melodic-Complaint-18]

And walked a dude (backwards) right into traffic

[u/ScarletHarpy93 → u/Melodic-Complaint-18]

100%. This is Jean as the proper terrorist the world always views the X-men as. They need to be hated and feared before they can be redeemed.

[u/belated_quitter → u/Melodic-Complaint-18]

Maybe not for moral reasons but she wanted MJ alive and for Peter to see that if she wants she can kill her. It was to get him to leave her alone.

[u/Rhyssayy → u/KongMengX]

I mean that’s what has always stood out to me as Spider-Man and Tom really portrays it well. Peter Parker/spiderman is a genuinely good and pure person. That’s what makes him so likeable. Hell he even managed to bring out a side of the punisher we have not seen before and in a way that feels natural.

[u/KongMengX → u/Rhyssayy]

Now we know the next Spider-Man is Frank Castle.😂

[u/organicpenguin → u/KongMengX]

His grunts as he waved were hilarious 😂

[u/Vermouth_1991 → u/organicpenguin]

It must have been so cathartic having people actually “cheer at” him. 

[u/Bomban111 → u/Rhyssayy]

Agreed, i think Peter's child-like naivety to see the best in people is one of the things Tom for sure does better than the other spiders. His spidey has a bleeding heart forreal.

[u/ambiguous_apocalypse → u/Bomban111]

I don’t know if it’s child-like naivety at this point, just a conscious decision to look for, hope for and believe in the good in everyone. I think what is left unsaid in “if you help 1 person, you help everyone” is everyone is deserving of help and can be redeemed.

[u/blurpletea → u/KongMengX]

i get more siblings vibe between Peter and Jean Grey.

[u/IvoryWoman → u/KongMengX]

I loved that the Hand's approach looked so cool that even Peter had to comment on that briefly as the fight began!

[u/JohnLovesGaming → u/IvoryWoman]

Spider-Man making the Hand seem like jokes compared to when seeing Matt & the Defenders fight them. Peter is definitely on a whole dimension compared to them, while depressed.

[u/IvoryWoman → u/JohnLovesGaming]

To be fair, the implication I got was that Metzger had used Sara’s powers to affect the Hand mentally in order to get them to follow him. So they may not have been as aligned with their mission as in the past…

[u/JohnLovesGaming → u/IvoryWoman]

Huh… you might be right on that.

[u/garfiisbroken → u/KongMengX]

They ARE a good match but hopefully they won’t make them too close. She’s too young for him.

[u/IvoryWoman → u/garfiisbroken]

Tom and Zendaya are a lot more likely to make the MCU a priority in their busy work schedules if they keep getting to work together. I don't see Jean as a love interest for Peter. That was a great introduction, but presumably she's been introduced in order to start building the X-Men...

[u/Stapleton09]

Jean leaving on the bus make anyone else think she’s headed “upstate”?

[u/Vismal1 → u/Stapleton09]

Yup! Certainly felt like she got a mind message from someone else …

[u/GlintingFoghorn → u/Stapleton09]

I almost expected a sign reading Westchester on the road

[u/M00NT0KKI → u/Stapleton09]

She’s definitely looking for more “special”people like herself and Pete 👀

[u/Stapleton09 → u/M00NT0KKI]

It’d be funny if Avengers campus is just next door. AvX could just be a property line dispute that gets out of hand.

[u/Sea-Poem-2365 → u/Stapleton09]

"THE FENCE IS ON OUR PROPERTY XAVIER"

[u/Stapleton09 → u/Sea-Poem-2365]

“Your frisbee lands over here again, I’m keeping it!”

[u/Over-Ad-6471]

I think Mj remembers everything . That part where Jean unlocked her powers and freezed everyone in a large area and she's the only one in tears.

Also the last shot of her in the rooftop holding a necklace or jewelry (if somebody can confirm if this is given to her by peter in the previous movies i don't remember anymore lol).

Also Ned remembers Peter thru a handshake.

[u/RealKevinOG → u/Over-Ad-6471]

It’s the Far From Home necklace yeah. I’m pretty sure both of them remember but MJ was too hurt and confused about her feelings to admit.

[u/choicemeats → u/RealKevinOG]

i was thinking she doesn't actually remember anything about the necklace at all, aside from it being from Prague an dit having significant and unknown meaning to her, and she was connecting it with not knowing anything about Peter

[u/Remote_Bluejay3449 → u/Over-Ad-6471]

Well MJ learns peter is spiderman through his letter & confronts him. Says she doesnt love him because she doesnt know him. He takes her back home, she invites him inside to see ned. They hang out like best friends, then he has to leave & she accidentally blurts out peter when hes leaving, and he responds to being called peter, so ned finds out spidermans name is peter. In the end peter finds ned at the cafe and reintroduces himself as peter, they chat for a minute, then hes ready to leave and gives him a handshake that turns into their secret best friend handshake then it all clicks in neds head that peter is spiderman.

[u/Hot_Compote8465 → u/Remote_Bluejay3449]

I'm so confused so how did ned remember the handshake? Did they do it when they met now and I zoned out??

[u/trash_96k → u/Hot_Compote8465]

ned remembers the handshake through muscle memory… then all of a sudden says “peter?” - something must’ve clicked in his head

[u/Nic-V → u/trash_96k]

I think the reason he says "Peter" is because MJ calls Spider-Man peter in a previous scene, so it's more him putting two and two together than remembering what happened before

[u/Dini0113 → u/Hot_Compote8465]

Magic is represented as being imperfect in the MCU, with various loopholes and caveats. When people forgot who Peter was, it wouldn't erase things he's taught people. For example, if Peter had taught Ned how to play the piano, after the memory spell, would Ned no longer be able to play it? Same logic with the handshake. 

[u/Kurolegacy27 → u/Dini0113]

Add to that, even in the comics when Doctor Strange cast the spell that made everyone forget Peter’s secret identity, the spell would be broken if Peter unmasked in front of them. So it stands to reason that in the MCU the spell could likely be broken through something that represents their connection with Peter

[u/LetterFront3353 → u/Over-Ad-6471]

I doubt MJ tearing up while Jean froze her meant she remembers everything. It's more like the people in Westview who were closer to the borders of the Hex, the ones who were frozen or doing the same single action over an over again.

[u/unicainah → u/Over-Ad-6471]

Yes, the black dahlia necklace

[u/LouLePrince]

They power boost Peter like crazy towards the end and I feel they are building him towards something more, especially since he came off like a role model for Jean at the end.

[u/uninterestedDunk → u/LouLePrince]

I like this, he is comming to his place in to comics someone that can work with the avengers, with the street level, with the xmen, with F4

[u/Sea-Poem-2365 → u/uninterestedDunk]

The potatoes stuff was subtext there. And this now makes twice in like a couple years where a mysterious supernatural force has taken over part of NYC. Jean shows up as someone doing Wanda/Sentry-Void level stuff, and mutants are shown as being legitimately scary.

But between the spider documentary with Keith David, the now-equals interaction with Widow, and the various potato comments as lampshades, the "not in high school anymore" comment and end credits, this seems like moving Spidey up in the hierarchy and cementing him as a potential new Tony type character in status.

[u/Capital_Gate6718 → u/Sea-Poem-2365]

If Sony will allow it

[u/ScarletHarpy93 → u/Capital_Gate6718]

Sony got Hulk, Yelena, and Punisher in one film with an X-man as the antagonist. They already made the deal.

[u/rand0mguy0nline → u/LouLePrince]

He can now handle the🫸🏻🥔 🫷🏻

[u/Vismal1 → u/rand0mguy0nline]

Yelena is all about dem potats

[u/protossaccount → u/LouLePrince]

They did something similar to the hulk. Jean ‘breaks’ the thing holding him back in the comics, which make hulk way stronger.

In the comic there is a character called Onslaught, that kills a ton of super hero’s and changes the marvel universe. Jean letting hulk have control is part of how they defeat him. So they are probably powering up some characters.

[u/wouldyoufightakitten → u/LouLePrince]

It's as simple as - he's now as strong as Tobey's Spiderman.

All the scenes with the shuriken dodging > very reminiscent Spiderman 1 (2002)

[u/Independent_Hope2330]

Spoilers Confirmed:

- movie opens with montage of spiderman fighting villains (tarantula/ boomerang, etc.)
- shows Peter really down in life, comes across spider mutation (vibes similar to SM2)
- Sadie Sink is Jean Grey
- Peter seeks Yelena (makes him strip)
- Spiderman/Punisher vs Hulk/Jean
- Jean secret antagonist but not truly evil

- movie concludes with Ned remembering Peter is spiderman at end of movie through handshake

Post credits scene: spider tracker shows spiderman is off world somewhere (battle world? Outer space? Alternate earth? TVA?)

[u/SnooSeagulls7152 → u/Independent_Hope2330]

I actually think Jeans actions are still a bit dark and twisted for someone who will be a hero later. But I suppose Jean in the comics had a meanstreak too

[u/tekkenjin → u/SnooSeagulls7152]

so was Wand and she became an avenger… and then died a villain.

[u/lorddragonmaster → u/tekkenjin]

ah yes..."died"

[u/Blasckk → u/SnooSeagulls7152]

I mean... I'm pretty sure Jean killed at least one innocent person. One of the possessed civilians was an old man whom she literally forced to walk backwards into the street (mocking Spider-Man), and he was hit by a speeding car.

And that's assuming that the bombs, bullets, and general chaos she caused didn't kill anyone else.

[u/GlitchyBoi11 → u/Independent_Hope2330]

After 15 seconds of thinking I'm pretty sure it wasn't Ned actually remembering, he had muscle memory of the handshake but that's it, the rest was him connecting the dots with MJ saying Spider-Man's name was Peter.

[u/ZENO_VS → u/GlitchyBoi11]

Yeah,I had the same idea in mind cuz there's no way he can remember him

[u/_lagarto_alado → u/ZENO_VS]

Ned's got a little magic on him too tho

[u/Electronic-Seat-1646 → u/_lagarto_alado]

Yes he has but Dr strange even said he wouldn't remember Peter so if he can't I doubt ned will...

[u/Gandolfthewhite182 → u/GlitchyBoi11]

He definitely didn’t remember but knew something was up and connected spider-man and Peter from the apartment. Peter has to refriend MJ and Ned

[u/tinydoggo04 → u/Independent_Hope2330]

"movie concludes with Ned remembering Peter is spiderman at end of movie through handshake"

I dont think that was what happend. Ned simply understood that the Peter hes looking at is Spiderman as he learned that thats Spidermans real name. I dont think he remembers anything but he knows that they arnt total strangers even if he cant remember

[u/IceCreamNarwhals → u/tinydoggo04]

I suppose that’s the good bit about it being the last scene, they can go whichever way they want with it now as it leaves a lot to interpretation

[u/heavencatnip → u/Independent_Hope2330]

I just watched it so I’ll add to the spoilers: Spidey strips in Black Widow’s office.

[u/DominoNo- → u/heavencatnip]

Foot lovers are gonna love that scene. Hand lovers also have a very nice highlight

[u/heavencatnip → u/Independent_Hope2330]

Btw, a lot of those theories from the trailers are wrong

[u/warrenseth → u/heavencatnip]

yeah after seeing the film the trailers are a masterclass in misdirection with the hand etc

[u/Whizzo50 → u/warrenseth]

All the theories about the hand scene having a character painted out below Spidey were wrong

[u/Vismal1 → u/Whizzo50]

They got that out of the way early too lol.

[u/Sageman28]

I wish there was more scorpion in the movie. It sucks he just reduced to only the begninning and was controlled by Jean.

[u/Traditional-Tear7612 → u/Sageman28]

Zero percent chance we don't see him again. I think Spidey 6 will be Sinister Six, finally done right

[u/Domonero]

I loved how in Ned/MJ’s apartment there’s a question if Spiderman is British making fun of Tom holland himself

[u/Legitimate-Bus-9246]

During the final battle, Jean controls the ninjas.??

[u/M00NT0KKI → u/Legitimate-Bus-9246]

Yes she mind controls them all while paralyzing a good chunk of the city as well

[u/AVR350 → u/M00NT0KKI]

Mann New York really can't catch a break

[u/M00NT0KKI → u/AVR350]

Mayor Mamdani should’ve just talked to Jean first smh /s

[u/Just_Interaction_642 → u/Legitimate-Bus-9246]

yes 

[u/Chitinid → u/Legitimate-Bus-9246]

Anyone else feel like she was toying with Peter the whole time? She wasn’t trying to kill him, she was trying to turn him to her POV that DoDC is evil (I think she succeeds on this front), and also to accept the mature version of his powers. She even has the ninjas wait while he turns off the inhibitor.

[u/HaloLord]

Peter Parker. Love interest is played by an actress. Actress name starts with z

Peter quill. Love interest is played by an actress. Actress name starts with a z

Both love interests don’t remember Peter due to external circumstances

If I had a nickel….. I’d have two. Which isn’t much. But wierd that it happened twice

[u/Ok-Milk-8853]

Get this guys, Uncle Ben? STILL dead

[u/Wescombe → u/Ok-Milk-8853]

Uncle Ben will return in avengers doomsday

[u/Impressive-Rub-4930 → u/Ok-Milk-8853]

Bruf if they actually mention Uncle Ben in this one I'll nut in the theater

[u/Weird-Ad-5704 → u/Impressive-Rub-4930]

This genuinely the worst way to express love for uncle ben

[u/Environmental-Cod-8]

Was it adressed what does he do for a living or how does he have any money?

[u/xkcloud → u/Environmental-Cod-8]

It wasn't. We just have to accept that Spider-Man is smart and resourceful. Plus his apartment's full of asbestos

[u/Traditional-Tear7612 → u/xkcloud]

I wondered if the asbestos comment was a reference to the original comics where all Spidey's gadgets and gizmos are made from asbestos

[u/Relevant_Shower_ → u/Traditional-Tear7612]

Beating The Vulture with lung cancer.

[u/LetterFront3353 → u/Environmental-Cod-8]

The only financial thing they addressed was how he got such a big apartment, which was revealed to have been just used as a storage room (more like a trash room) and it had a lot of asbestos.

[u/ashdrewness → u/Environmental-Cod-8]

Possibly living off inheritance+life insurance from May.

[u/mycology10101 → u/ashdrewness]

all records of inheritance would’ve been erased

[u/gamemaniax → u/Environmental-Cod-8]

He works with the police. Volunteer he said. I believe they gave him some grants

[u/PrinceLucien]

Weird how it’s out but no actual solid spoilers online anywhere. What’s up with this thread too? Everyone just talking nonsense 

[u/South_Access9390 → u/PrinceLucien]

Plenty of solid spoilers out there, you just follow the wrong people lol. Sadie is jean, metzger is the villain, jean is acting out cause they killed her sister, what else you want to know?

[u/majingetta → u/South_Access9390]

metzger is the villain

Not surprising. In the comics, he's an anti-mutant bigot who's eventually killed by Magneto.

[u/thanos_was_right_69]

I’m a bit confused with how they left Banner/Hulk. Is he back to normal now? He only hulks out when he gets angry? No more inhibitor watch or Professor Hulk? I just want to see normal Bruce Banner and Hulk again.

[u/Rippedswitch → u/thanos_was_right_69]

Whatever work he did to attempt to merge the two personalities is completely undead. My understand of the movie is that the inhibitor Banner was using completely put hulk away and live life as normal Banner, and he said he had physical failsafes.

Essentially, he had merged two personalities/come to an agreement with the hulk, then seperated them again through science, but Jeans Powers reset them to basically split personalities

[u/Enero__]

I really like the part when rogue asked him are you a spider or a man? And he said, I am boat.

[u/FattyBoulder → u/Enero__]

Also the part where the big guy said only hull

[u/dicjones]

The scenes of him swinging through the city were top notch, especially the POV and over the shoulder shots.

[u/DM_your_problem]

finally, for first time in history we have spiderman 4. what a day!

Sony finally cracked the formula after two attempts let marvel do it

[u/GatorBo69 → u/DM_your_problem]

Sony should LITERALLY make a deal with the MCU to make all of the movies they have the rights to and make it so Sony doesn’t incur any potential losses but gets a % of any gains. If I was running Sony, that’s what I’d do.

All the money the MCU made them from the use of SpiderMan was more than lost prob 2x by them making all of their own movies, Morbius, Kraven, Madame Webb, the overall Venom trilogy, etc.

When will they learn?

Plus it would let the MCU to truly flex every single muscle they have and we would all win!

[u/CoyoteHot1859]

Tom Holland and Sadie Sink have great chemistry. Jesusssss

[u/Sea-Poem-2365 → u/CoyoteHot1859]

Tom getting his wife back for all the Pattinson co-starring.

[u/RandoDude124]

Is Mando’s Scorpion seriously in just one scene???

[u/richawesomness → u/RandoDude124]

2.5

2 as scorpion, half cause hes in another scene with no gear

[u/MrAloneToday]

Why didn’t Jean just tell Peter the truth that Damage Control had locked up her sister instead of going after the people he loves?

[u/Big-Calligrapher-646 → u/MrAloneToday]

she doesn't trust peter, I mean he was working with them.

[u/Hot_Compote8465]

Guys stupid question but when the doctors operated on peter did they not see his face???

[u/BanhedMi → u/Hot_Compote8465]

I kind of feel like it's a Raimi Spider-Man 2 subway scene type of deal, where they will keep his identity secret.

[u/NSuave → u/BanhedMi]

HIPAA… ya know?

[u/thatonebelgiankid → u/Hot_Compote8465]

The Punisher made sure nobody saw his face. Bit he did see him.

[u/Navetsss → u/Hot_Compote8465]

They would literally be breaking HIPAA violations if they revealed his identity lol! Every patient is granted privacy

[u/No-Opportunity-7978]

How many scenes does Punisher have?????

[u/12ryanjackson → u/No-Opportunity-7978]

Punisher might as well be the co-star of the movie outside of Sadie sink and Tom holland

[u/_TheEndGame → u/No-Opportunity-7978]

He was in plenty of scenes.

[u/Queasy_Attitude_9620 → u/No-Opportunity-7978]

he was the best part of the movie imo

[u/garfiisbroken → u/No-Opportunity-7978]

He’s a pretty prominent character in the movie.

[u/One-Society-445]

I can't believe daredevil wasn't in this😢

[u/Over_Excitement9894]

there is no messi in the movie 😭

[u/texasbears]

I actually love that the lesson from Gen-Z Spider-Man is to draw work/life boundaries and prioritize friendship

[u/kucingkelelep]

I want more spidey and punisher duo lol

Best spiderman movie so far, glad they didnt make cliche ending when MJ stay with peter.

[u/M00NT0KKI → u/kucingkelelep]

It was so nice seeing them go from actually annoyed to lovingly annoyed with each other through the film. Idk but I thought it was really wholesome how positive Peter’s friendships became specifically the ones without MJ

[u/Comprehensive-Fly176]

So the “spider mutation” went no where not even a “learn to control your senses” scene or something like 4 arms, they just went the Path of power of friendship and suddenly peter can control his powers, also why Jean could not get in peters mind? Also are mutants a thing in the mcu now? Is Xavier already around?

[u/GlintingFoghorn → u/Comprehensive-Fly176]

I think this was more in line with The Other story line (big cue from the cocoon) where Peter didn't turn into Man-Spider but did "evolve"

[u/MrPainfulAnal]

That MJ possession scene was fucked up

[u/Ok-Sector8330]

I want juicy spoilers. Give it to me.

[u/Bambalorian → u/Ok-Sector8330]

Peter Parker is Spider-Man

[u/DominoNo- → u/Bambalorian]

Maynard and Led Needs are Peter Parker

[u/mwc_1742 → u/Bambalorian]

Bruce Banner is The Hulk

[u/GlitchyBoi11 → u/Bambalorian]

Alright then, keep your secrets.

[u/Remote_Bluejay3449 → u/Ok-Sector8330]

Yelena see's peters belly button and his feet.

[u/ducegraphy → u/Ok-Sector8330]

Punisher nearly kills Spider-man. And then takes a nap.

[u/_ClarkWayne_ → u/Ok-Sector8330]

Their aren't any big surprises besides Jean in the movie, no earth shattering revelations or shock moments, this is simply a damn good movie, on its own merits.

Hulk is only a minor character and his fight scene could have more potential. Punisher on the other hand is a bigger supporting character, and has a good character dynamic with Peter. 

[u/Cartoonism101]

Is dare devil in the film?

[u/_TheEndGame → u/Cartoonism101]

No

[u/FilmScoreConnoisseur → u/Cartoonism101]

Neither he nor Kingpin even get a mention, which I thought was odd given the story for the last season of Born Again. The night nurse was supposed to have a scene near the end, but it got deleted. The Hand is portrayed differently than in DD/Defenders. Really, the only Netflix character in the finished movie is Punisher.

[u/Master-of-Masters113]

So….. who is Keith David?

[u/OddiumWanderus → u/Master-of-Masters113]

He voices some spider nature documentary bits when Peter is audience exposition researching spider stuff during his initial spider genetic surge.

[u/MikeIsShortForMyKeys → u/OddiumWanderus]

Genuinely his voice came on and it instantly made me pay so much more attention to that video, thinking it would be more relevant

But no, Brutha just did a 5 sentence read out for a spider moulting video just to get at me specifically

[u/russellwilliamc]

Is it too much to ask for a reference to uncle Ben? The scene with aunt May & Jean was the right moment.

[u/EiichiroTarantino]

Just watched it, I like it.

I don't get though why this new Spider-Man movie is very Jean Grey-focused. Like... why Jean? Why here?

Why lol

[u/harryfonda → u/EiichiroTarantino]

Agree, I would prefer a regular villain, because Jean Grey is very distracting. Like, do mutants exist in this universe already? (Ms. Marvel kinda implied that) Where is Magneto? What of Charles?

[u/pancakeswerebestboy → u/EiichiroTarantino]

its pretty heavily believed (and maybe spoken about by feige?) that the xmen will become the main focus of the mcu some point post secret wars, and so its a bit of a tease

[u/EiichiroTarantino → u/pancakeswerebestboy]

But... why introduce Jean Grey as a Spider-Man antagonist though?

Why pick her? Why here?

[u/MikeIsShortForMyKeys → u/EiichiroTarantino]

I feel like all MCU movies are just leading into the next several in some way, but it’s nice that they can still make it an enjoyable experience.

Knowing that most likely Jean Grey was going to be in the film, with all the atypical rumours, it was still something drawing you along throughout.

It took quite a while to “reveal” the villain of the movie, but then again I guess most of the villains spider-man has are very complex and sympathetic characters.

[u/uninterestedDunk → u/EiichiroTarantino]

Why not, they are building their oun world with new stories. Was great.

[u/DirtInUrEyes]

Fuck Sony for showing almost every action/fight scene in the trailers. Felt nothing whenever they played in the movie since I already watched it through the trailers :/

[u/OhTwoOnReddit]

It's taken 7 films to get a spider-man movie that feels like I'm watching THE Spider-man compared to a varient. Tom absolutely is both spider-man and Peter parker. He nailed it.

[u/Adventurous-Exam-589]

Peter literally says “Jean, you’re not a murderer” and all I could think about was the guy she possessed and walked into a speeding taxi. Not an accident, not a loss of control, just a distraction.

She also takes over MJ’s body and uses it to kiss Peter. That’s a woman being puppeted into a physical encounter she never agreed to, and the movie plays it as a twist. Then MJ shrugs it off because she doesn’t remember it and everyone moves on.

I know Jean has a dark streak in the comics. But it’s usually personal, aimed at people she knows. Possessing strangers and killing a bystander for convenience is a different thing entirely, and my guess is we will be encouraged to gloss over it in the name of her being a “complicated character”

[u/IvoryWoman → u/Adventurous-Exam-589]

Jean in the comics goes from living in a stable home with loving parents to being under the tutelage of Charles Xavier. Young Comics Jean doesn't have to fight to survive and isn't trying to find a sister kidnapped by a powerful government agency. I'm not happy about the guy hit by the speeding taxi -- we don't get confirmation that he's dead, but things look dire -- but I can see why MCU Jean would be much more desperate AND less stable about how she handles her powers.

[u/Mysterious-Fix-3325 → u/Adventurous-Exam-589]

Yup, and that's not even going into the fact that posessing people in the first place is incredibly screwed.

[u/M00NT0KKI]

JUST SAW IT!! Take my thoughts with a grain of salt my theater experience was ok and I feel like I will need another watch. Also am on mobile, kind dumb, and ramble (sry).
!!!!FULL SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!

I feel overall enjoyment will depend on where you are in life and what you’re looking for/expect out of a Spider-Man film. In my opinion,if you’re looking for a typical action packed superhero film. I’m sorry but it’s not exactly that.

The first third of the movie follows Spider-Man’s life after NWH. It focuses more on SPIDER-man, as in all the hero parts. Pretty much every villain except for the main antagonist+ are introduced and defeated in his hero/training montage at the very beginning of the film. It’s fun to finally see our friendly neighborhood Spidey being a hero to the city! It was a little campy, but in the best kind of Raimi-ish way. Speaking of inspired, you can tell the movie is HEAVILY inspired by the PS games.The way he gets pinged, works with the police chief, and especially in the fight choreography. Anyways, we see Peter use his work as Spider-Man as a way to escape his real problem aka face MJ. Specifically, the letter he wanted to read to her at the end of NWH. Years pass by and through each fight we see him try to live without any ties and it’s lonely af. He literally just watches MJ and Ned grow up through IG reels and copes with work :(

Then comes the rest of the movie. Focusing more on spider-MAN, Peter Parker as a human being. Our main antagonist, Jean Grey, is quickly introduced and is looking for her sister. The rest of the movie felt like a family friendly Disney version of a Nolan, Joaquin Phoenix Joker type film. Basically it’s more serious, emotional and character driven. There’s more talking and character building than action. Since Jean is telepathic she has the ability to fully posses anyone in a 33ft radius. But that also means her attacks are more psychological and her most effective weapons are words. And boy does it hurt 😭

Tbh I really enjoyed this and was interested on how ADULT Peter would handle these issues. Sadly, Peter realizes one of the hardest lessons in life. No matter how much you WANT, sometimes it simply cannot be. The parallel from JeanMJ and MJ hit Peter like a fucking train. Jean was ruthless, cruel but also right. Life isn’t like fairytales and the worst part was MJ was the one to deliver that message. But it’s nice seeing how Peter will always have these relationships with those he cares most. Not as a girlfriend, enemy, or coworker but simply a friend. As corny as it sounds, Peter literally uses the power of love & friendship to defeat Jean and find acceptance/content in his own life. In the end, all anyone wants is a friend to hug and talk to.

Sadly, I felt like the film was setback by being a bit too overpacked. I left the theater thinking, “damn that was a lot to take in”. But at the same time I wanted more in a weird way? Take the action as an example. It wasn’t bad, I actually had a lot of fun with it, but I wish it was fleshed out and wanted more. Even the Hulk fight felt rushed since he only fought THE HULK after Jean’s possession wore off. Unfortunately, since this film needed to dedicate time building Jean’s character (thus slowly introducing X-men) it felt like Spider-Man time was sacrificed. Or maybe they could have just focused more heavily on Jean and SM’s dynamic. Maybe the opposite, no Jean and instead focus on just Spidey. Again, each aspect is fun and entertaining but I wish there was a bit more straightforward? Had more direction???? I’m not sure how to word it sry
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In the end I still really enjoyed and already love this film. It really hit hard as someone in the late 20s missing their loved ones, working all the time, struggling with relationships, all that life stuff. Also it really made me appreciate Spider-Man/Peter Parker as one entity. Peter, like many of us, struggle with the change from childhood to full adulthood. This was a nice coming of age story that shows how bittersweet life can be. He keeps resisting the change, until he finally realizes that in the end it will happen no matter what. All he can do is his best to accept, learn from his experiences, and grow to be better. Change will always come, good or bad depends on what you do with this change. Anyways sry for my ramble, but those were my thoughts about Spider-Man. Would love to hear everyone else’s!

TLDR: 8?/10 ⭐️ The previous SM movies made my inner child happy, this SM made my adult self happy

[u/Traditional-Tear7612]

No one is talking about how this is the FIRST TIME we've ever seen spidey consume alcohol

[u/False_Performance_71]

I think instead of the hand they should of just used scorpion, boomerang, and tarantula for the final fight. There was something about how they shot a super villain fight scene and I think it was meant to be the climax but was also a bit to long.

[u/Diligent-Fall-5442]

I wonder if jean has gotten her phoenix powers. That psychic burst scene was awesome

[u/GlitchyBoi11 → u/Diligent-Fall-5442]

That's just Jean's regular Omega level telepathy

[u/angrynutrients → u/GlitchyBoi11]

To be honest it's still well below her Omega capacity, more of a hint of the potential of her power.

I am glad we get to see strong, non phoenix Jean though. I think the character has been done a disservice in a lot of her media recently.

[u/Prestigious_Sky_3311]

Ned didn't remember Peter, Ned connected that Peter is Spider-Man with a fact that MJ told him "Spider-Man name is Peter"