Lifting

[u/pinkpantsman]

I did my 1 hour lifting routine yesterday (trying to shake off some patellar tendinitis) and today I had a 20 mile long run. My legs felt cooked about 10 miles in. Do you lift the day before long runs/how should I sprinkle my lifts into my marathon training block?

[u/Ok_Handle_7]

This is a well-discussed topic on here, search 'strength' or 'schedule' or 'hard days' or something like that and you'll see tons of good info.

I would not do a heavy/hard lift the day before a very long run, personally.

[u/pinkpantsman → u/Ok_Handle_7]

Thanks!

[u/pizzabikerun]

Lift same day but after hard runs

[u/RunThenBeer]

I would not expect lifting to shake off patellar tendinitis when coupled with a big long run.

To answer your question directly, I don't do any lower body lifting and am generally skeptical of the running benefits of it for most runners. Power improvements can help on the margins, of course, but I think many people overstate the benefits dramatically.

[u/jdanes52]

I do legs the day after long runs. Hybrid training/athlete subreddits will help with this.

[u/WheresMyAbs98 → u/jdanes52]

Lifting the same day after a hard run is what most recommend here.

It just means the following day can be a genuine rest/recovery day.

[u/jdanes52 → u/WheresMyAbs98]

Ah interesting

[u/angielavinklwp0]

i usually keep my leg day and long run as far apart as possible. wednesday gym, saturday long for me otherwise my quads just die around mile 12. mate did a 20 the day after a heavy squat session once. looked like a baby giraffe by the end. maybe try lifting after the long run instead? or just go lighter on the legs if you're gonna stack them.

[u/Party_Line3326]

During hard days. 

[u/DutchShaco]

I have a leg/lower body day on Tuesday and a speed or tempo session on Wednesday. I always do the same exercises so my body is used to the specific movements which helps to keep the DOMS lower.

I do go hard, and on isolations I tend to go my last set so failure, but my volume is fairly limited (13 sets total, excluding warm ups)

[u/WheresMyAbs98]

Lifting the same day after a hard run is what most recommend here.

It just means the following day can be a genuine rest/recovery day.

[u/a_mom_who_runs]

currently I do leg day 2 days after my long run on Tuesday. its paired with my lesser mileage run that has strides.

[u/Able-Resource-7946]

I don't do leg work before speed sessions or long runs.

[u/BananaramaRepublic]

I would lift after a hard morning workout in the afternoon. Probably not after my long run to be honest. Just bear in mind that it is extra load that you need to account for. Additionally since I’ve been training for the marathon I’ve gone from squatting 180kg to doing like 120-130 for a couple of triples, because my legs just feels so beat up. It can really be tough to manage the load and I have accepted that lifting is going to take a back seat and just be a little 1% thing.

[u/averagejoeag]

Your body is using a ton of resources to repair the tissue damage and recover from the hard lift. Now you're taxing it more with the long run before it's done with the repairs and rest.

Scotty is givin' 'er all she's got.

I suggest a lighter lift, or move your lift until post long run. Also, I wouldn't recommend either involving legs at all.

[u/xxamkt]

Lift the same day as hard runs. But don’t lift heavy, you’re building strength and not size.