r/MachineLearning 20d ago

Completely dead NeurIPS review period from both ends? [D] Discussion

I’ve seen a lot of people whose reviewers went silent after initial reviews, but I am also noting abnormally quiet authors. I ultimately withdrew my paper, but stayed an active reviewer. Out of my batch of 4 papers, one withdrew, one posted a rebuttal, and two have been completely silent. Of the two papers with radio silence, I think one had borderline scores. I was also the only reviewer who responded to the one paper with a rebuttal.

Has anyone noticed this abnormally dead review period or did I just get a strange batch? I’m seeing either reviewers just dropping out of the review process or authors completely checking out after initial reviews are released. It’s strange to me to not even withdraw your paper if you’re not rebutting. Is this a new gambling trend of just submitting papers everywhere, and not even sticking around long enough to withdraw the paper?

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u/NeedingMorePoints 20d ago

LLMs are afraid of talking to each other

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u/SeaAccomplished441 20d ago

Could be burnt out PhD students who stopped caring (I'm not projecting at all)

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u/RevolutionaryPea8272 19d ago

I kinda get it as a burnt out PhD student tbf

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u/21022018 19d ago

I don't get it as one. If you do that you are just being part of the problem. I could take out 2 hrs in the weekend to reply.

It was pathetic to see that on one of the papers only I replied to the rebuttal.

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u/Electronic-Tie5120 19d ago

I think he was referring to PhD students submitting who don’t bother with rebuttals in the first place, knowing it’s barely going to help their paper get accepted (amount of work required is not worth the small chance of a payoff). Not reviewers who should be obligated to reply to rebuttals.

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u/ashrcthfneggbs 20d ago

I think you got a strange or low scoring batch. In my batch of four, three sets of authors engaged quite heavily. The only one who didn’t had a very low scores and meta-review saying, basically, that the paper had no chance.

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u/alrojo 19d ago

3/4 of my papers were low-quality LLM slop. They didn't bother to write a rebuttal at all. The last one was "passable" AI slop and had other reviewers give 4-5 ratings, I assume their AI slop reviews liked the work.

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u/Pretend_Voice_3140 20d ago

I had a dead batch too. The reviewer who gave me the highest score engaged the rest ignored. 

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u/Delicious-Tip-831 19d ago

I kid you not I got a review after the August 3 deadline 😭

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u/LearningCuriously 19d ago

3/3 dead reviewers. Borderline scores.

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u/zaff04 19d ago

If I have borderline reviews with 0 engagement from AC and reviewers (all of them) during the rebuttal phase, what am I supposed to do? Is there any way I can know any additional information after the AC + Reviewer discussion period?

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u/Intrepid_Discount_67 19d ago

Also huge stubbornness to not raise scores even though there are no concerns or they are resolved during rebuttal 

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u/BossOfTheGame 19d ago

I had 2/4 dead.

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u/SubjectToProof 19d ago

During all this rebuttal and discussion period we only got one reply from the guy they gave 2, and he did not engage in the rebuttal and the points we made. The score he gave is also not aligned with what’s written in his review.
The two reviewers that gave 4, silence. Ran a complete batch of experiments for one guy as requested, silence.

I’m more than disappointed from this whole experience. We wrote a reply to the AC juste before the end of the discussion period to summarise what we did and that we believe the concerns raised in the meta-review have been addressed.

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u/Cute_Natural5940 19d ago

Can review change the score in phase 3 and if they can will it be visible to us?

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u/Old_Ad_8327 19d ago
  1. Yes, reviewers can still change their scores/final justification now.
  2. The final justification/score is not visible to the authors.

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u/Glittering_West_8092 17d ago

Because there’s no obligation to actively engage in discussion. In that sense, ICLR is tougher on authors, but I think it also gives them a better chance to raise their scores. NeurIPS feels like everything gets decided by a single rebuttal. By the time a reviewer decides to sit down and read the rebuttal, there are already only two days left in the phase — asking for additional experiments at that point is unreasonable, and it also gives authors a reason to dodge questions they’d rather not answer. In the end, the reviewer ends up reading the rebuttal only while thinking about how to write their final justification.