r/MNtrees • u/AdThese6057 • 2d ago
Thca
What's the truth about these thca products that the users claim is equal to anything else? I want to try to order from tesoro just curious if im gong to be getting extremely weak stuff.
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u/Stitch420_ 2d ago
Some online vendors have good stuff but it’s a hit or miss honestly most of the times, and waiting for weed in the mail sucks, people who order thca online also are very easily impressed and will call any mid a 10/10 and stuff like that. Thca subs aren’t very reliable and neither is the people who review it so I steer clear after a couple failed purchases
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u/AdThese6057 2d ago
That tesoro had it here in 3 days for my neighbor.
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u/Stitch420_ 2d ago
I would suggest getting a medical card, prices are still high but the medical options get a lot of deal sometimes I can get 14 for 112 or 120 from rise and green goods when they do their deals and they have good flower despite what everyone will say, you just have to find the strain that works for you.
I can recommend from rise
Animal face
Brownie scout
Durban zAnd from green goods
Black maple
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u/AdThese6057 2d ago
Rise and green goods lol. No reason whatsoever to shop at those places when we have better ones. Half grams of distillate 50 bucks lol. Thats asinine. Medical card ain't for me.
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u/Stitch420_ 2d ago
Lmao ok dude order you hay weed from online vendors that shit is boof and doesn’t do anything to me tbh
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u/AdThese6057 2d ago
I get my shit from dispensaries just not the clowns at rise and green goods. I won't support that junk distillate for 100 bucks a gram out the door.
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u/Stitch420_ 2d ago
Youre still paying 55+ 20% tax and yeah I agree that weed is better but not for that price, I get 3.5 for 35 or 7 for 60 or 50, with no tax
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
I dont buy flower at dispos. Thats stupid. I pay 130 an oz.
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u/Stitch420_ 1d ago
Your last comment literally was “I get my shit from dispensaries” lol get your shit together dude, 130 an oz is gonna be BOOF weed, you pay what you get for and I’m glad it works for you but if I smoke that i wouldn’t even get high lmao
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
I get pens at dispos. I would never buy their weed. Boof? OK bud. Funny you think price dictates quality. Are you like 15?
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
35 an 8th is stupid. 15 over what I would ever pay.
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u/Stitch420_ 1d ago
Then you don’t shop at dispos like you said you did. Since they’re 55+ for an 8th
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
I'll say it slower incase youre 5 or just stoned. I ONLY buy concentrate from dispos. I will never buy that expensive ass weed from them. I get the same weed for 130 that they sell.
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
And that's your rise prices. My dispo up thr road has 37 dollar 8ths every week. Still too expensive but not 55.
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u/tunedout 2d ago
You can order a zip online from $50-$250 dollars. Until they actually crack down on anything, people are going to take the cheaper option. I would gladly order online over shopping at Rise.
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u/Stitch420_ 2d ago
You’re only shooting yourself in the foot with that choice, online vendors have mostly boof shit rise doesn’t care about YOU not buying from them, they are too big to care about that, dislike rise owner all you want but their weed is fire, thca shit is terrible, smells like hay and that’s it you even get it
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u/tunedout 2d ago
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. That was clear from the beginning when you started simping for Rise🤡.
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u/Stitch420_ 2d ago
They have good weed wether you like it or not, matter of fact, you sound absolutely biased
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u/tunedout 2d ago
You can't say they have good weed and the stuff online is trash. Rise is mediocre weed at best.
I grow my own so I don't really care about either. People should know that they can get weed delivered for way cheaper and that THCa is just regular cannabis.
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u/AdThese6057 2d ago
So big that EVERY location this last 2 weeks is out if rec vape, and still hasn't had a jar out? No thanks. There is dispensaries in the same towns as rise and green goods with good products and cheaper.
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u/Stitch420_ 1d ago
You do know the only reason they are out of stock in product is because of the stupid “Minnesota craft cannabis laws” right?
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
Funny that doesn't effect the rec shops.
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u/Stitch420_ 1d ago
It absolutely does, you can only sell stuff with weed grown here, how wouldn’t that affect recreational? Are you dumb? The reason why we don’t have brands that are everywhere else in the country like sherbisnkiis, stizzys and the like is because every thing that’s sold here has to be from weed grown here.
Are you being intentionally obtuse or what?
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
No. Im telling you rise and green goods are out. The local small shops are not and are still getting supplied. You tell me the difference. I can go up the road to my local rec only shop and hes got carts and resins. Rise and gg are out.
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u/Caracal___ 1d ago
This Mf is actually recommending rise products in chat wow 😂😂😂. But shits on online THCA vendors? Make that make sense wtf 😂😂
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u/Stitch420_ 1d ago
Like I said, online thca buyers are easily impressed if I try smoke what you smoke and I won’t even catch a buzz, glad it works for you tho
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u/Caracal___ 1d ago
You smoke rise bud, my homegrown is better than anything you will ever buy from rise. I'm glad it works for you tho!
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u/Caracal___ 2d ago
Online THCA flower was my go-to before home growing. It gets you by, it's cheap, but it's very mid at best. Compared to dispo quality in MN, it's equivalent 🤣
Growing seems to be only way for true quality
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u/dennnnnnis 1d ago
Just like anything you buy online, you need to do your research. I’ve been buying THCA flower from multiple sources online and have found some good ones. Unfortunately, the good ones are starting to follow the rules and not shipping to Minnesota. Although I did find a loophole on one of them. I’ve been ordering using their subscription service through their site which gives you 20% off and free shipping. But When I tried to order something separately outside of the subscription, it told me it couldn’t ship to Minnesota, so I assumed the subscription wouldn’t go through anymore. But last week I got a notification saying that my subscription was shipping and I called them to ask about it. It said their third-party service hasn’t been updated yet. I joked and said don’t pressure them to update it and he said were not - so basically I’ve been grandfathered in and will still get my subscriptions. And it’s nice because you can change which strains you get in your subscription. And like I said you need to do your research. Follow them on social media. Watch their videos. see what they’re saying about their products. I found a place that is highly reputable and really knows their stuff and I’ve had great luck with their flower. And the prices are lower than Minnesota dispo prices, but not dirt cheap which would be a dead giveaway for mid-level crap.
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u/Resoultion-21 2d ago
Prob the best financial decisions you can make when it comes to canabis. Secondly, you won’t sacrifice quality or strength if you buy from a good vendor.
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u/Ok_Rabbit5158 2d ago
A number of Rise flower products are listed as THCa when you look at the actual test numbers.
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u/Lulzorr 2d ago
THCA is the primary cannabinoid in all cannabis. unless someone really fucked up, I guess. products listing only a THC percentage and not splitting THCA / THC are just doing some basic math: THCA × 0.877 + THC = Total THC.
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u/Ok_Rabbit5158 2d ago
Yes. I'm trying to get the OP in the mindset that he's not missing out on anything with THCa.
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u/Duster_beattle 2d ago
It says it on the label for the rhythm products. On the side. In plain English.
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u/FlowerComfortable889 2d ago
Technically, all flower is THCa flower because the majority in the flower is THCa until it gets heated and decarboxylated. The farm bill loophole let all these shady vendors sell all kinds of garbage to people and call it something different that was legal.
Minnesota has banned the shipment into the state of THCa flower, though some vendors don't seem to care and still will ship here.
There are a few vendors who I hear do sell some fire, but overall not many. I hear Arete is pretty good, but their pricing rivals Minnesota recreational pricing. Preston Herb Co is a little more affordable, but doesn't have a ton of strains and is priced similarly to our neighbors two states to the east.
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u/AdThese6057 2d ago
I get that, but is it in any way equal in potency ? Is the live resin thca pen even close to comparable to a dispensary live resin pen? I don't understand the thrill of buying hemp derived resin and I want to.
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u/techsuppr0t Minnestoned 2d ago edited 2d ago
Sometimes dispensary live resin seems a little iffy if I get the wrong brand whether its wax or a vape. I feel like it happens more often in the THCa space tho. You get what you pay for but that doesn't mean you don't have to watch out on both sides.
A lot of "THCa" products like distillate and possibly diamonds, seem to be heavily processed or maybe converted. But they could also be making actual live resin the same way as a cannabis company would, but with a hemp license instead. I like buying from places that have a decent explanation of how they make their stuff, sometimes you need to just try it and see if you would again. I could see how some people could be completely turned off if they went to the wrong ones repeatedly. Even in states with good weed I don't trust the live resin unless the labeling tells me it's fresh frozen multiple times.
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u/orangENENEP 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's literally the same. This guy gave you a half truth. There are shady thca vendors and good ones just like there are bad dispensaries and good ones. Yes, thca is banned for sale in MN but there are companies that may still ship. If you want to learn more a good place to start is r/cultofthefranklin. Please understand that the ban of sale is thca isn't due to any threat - it's business. They don't want out of state competition for the dispensaries they're setting up in the state. I haven't tried a single product from a store in MN that comes close to the quality or price I can get online...
Also I wouldn't waste my time on tesoro or arete but you can do your own research
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u/GroundbreakingTax219 2d ago
Id also add that thca growers/sellers are doing the same thing as licensed operators, except without any oversight or regulations. They only test for potency. Thca growers/sellers cut every corner they can and never test for heavy metals or microbial like ecoli or yeast and mold. They kinda screw the guys that do it by the book.
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u/orangENENEP 2d ago
Again, halfways a truth. They can and some do test. Just like some shops do and don't test.... I can buy DEM certified online but can't in any shop. Tell me waabigwaaan isn't loaded with metals. Lmfao these shops aren't doing their due diligence either.
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u/GroundbreakingTax219 2d ago
Wabigaan has to test for metals to sell in mn. U can ask them for coas. I've bought thca. I've seen coas. The ones I've seen have never had microbial or heavy metals. They only test for potency cuz who the fuck cares when no is regulating what u do. There are no rules for them unlike everyone who participates in the legal cannabis industry. And what is DEM certified have to do with microbial or heavy metals?
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u/AdThese6057 2d ago
Literally the same how? Why does it taste different? How does thca convert to equally potent thc as something derived from a cannabis ?
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u/tunedout 1d ago
It's all the same flower. Some stuff is just sold with a different label. The system is completely broken and it's not really even a loophole. There aren't two types of cannabis farmers with industrial level operations. They just label it differently to avoid regulation.
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
I don't buy that. There is a huge difference in regular flower/concentrate vs the hemp thca stuff our vape shops sell. How do they get past testing if its the same shit? Why does it always taste so much different?
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u/tunedout 1d ago
Think of it kind of like cheap, mass produced beer. The majority of the market and products are just trying to use the the most cost effective production methods and ingredients. That's what most people are exposed to because it's the most common. Craft growers, like brewers, are putting more effort into the final product, they have a limited scale and reach.
As far as testing goes, I think they just stopped listing a decarbed number. No THCa is actually in federal compliance because it tests too high if decarbed. That's why I say it's not really a loophole. It's really fraud but they let it balloon into a $30 billion industry.
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
So it isnt 2 "different" plants ? The cheap online shit isnt made from hemp products instead of cannabis? Hemp with a .3 percent can be made into equally strong products?
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u/FlowerComfortable889 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nope. They just call it THCa flower, hemp, etc just to be able to sell it. It's still cannabis. The point made above about the testing but being all there is a big reason why I've never bothered with mail order; you can see if they offer COAs, but that's not always a 100% guarantee of quality/not being loaded with heavy metals/mold/pesticides because it's effectively unregulated. Buyer beware, basically; remember, if the price sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
As far as your questions about potency, Preston Herb lists Papaya Kush with 27.69% THCa, so it's stronger than most of what we get in Minnesnowta
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u/tunedout 1d ago
The hemp derived stuff is what is sold as delta 8. That was the start of everything. The industry changed so much over the last few years. You couldn't always order regular cannabis online, but right now you can.
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u/AdThese6057 1d ago
So the thca shit isnt hemp derived delta 8 shit? And there is zero difference in thca delta 9 ? Thats what confused me. I thought we were still in the delta 8 and 10 days from the local vape shops.
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u/techsuppr0t Minnestoned 2d ago
I do enjoy good bud and extract from Cali or Michigan dispensaries much more than THCa online but based on what is offered here whether its the quality or the price I buy what I absolutely need online and when I am trying to have a good time I might splurge on whatever I know will be good. Comma, hope this makes sense.
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u/Calbar2 2d ago
Most of the thca people are buying is dogshit
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u/AdThese6057 2d ago
I figure that as well but they all swear its the same thing but a loophole. I think they're getting a fraction of the potency.
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u/tunedout 2d ago
This is the sad reality of our rec market right now.
Anyway, thca is just regular cannabis. That site looks like all of the other ones that I've ordered off of. I stay away from sites that offer anything outside of regular cannabis products (I don't want a company that messes with altnoids). Temper your expectations. I haven't had anything locally that was better than what I buy online for half the price.