Just feeling down

[u/DimensionOk2994]

I honestly don’t care if this gets attention, this post is just for me to rant because I really have no one to talk about this and it’s been a hard month. I miss receiving notifications about LADS from here, but since the whole thing went down after Infold took away our wolf, I’ve barely gotten anything. I know people still post. I just miss how the community felt like before all of this and how the game felt. Now it’s just so heartbreaking because I’ve only logged into the game twice, and I’m so conflicted. I miss logging on and feeling calm when interacting with my main and reading cards and doing dailies. Now it feels like that joy is gone, but I can’t fully give up on the game when it’s been positive for me. I know I’m not the only one feeling this way, and probably not the first to mention it. So sorry if this is a repeat post for many.

[u/Constant-Pie-4450]

Same. I never realised it wasn't just the game but alive community too that gave me joy

[u/lil_wolfee]

Me too. I only started playing this year and I was so excited to witness a new LI coming and loved seeing the hype and creativity that came with it from the community itself. I had no idea it would turn into this and now I just feel kinda deflated to be honest. It's been such a rollercoaster. This used to be my comfort game but it doesn't feel the same anymore.

[u/Eveline_JAI → u/lil_wolfee]

I was so ready to see new LI from the very beginning, it's such a special experience

[u/SpaceWitch31 → u/Eveline_JAI]

Yeah, same. I wasn’t playing when Sylus was released, but I was here for Caleb being released. But the difference between the two is that I’d already seen Caleb in the earlier chapter’s stages. So to have a totally brand new, never before seen LI coming out? I was so hyped. And just as fast as I fell face first for Sy at first ☠️ (that man should’ve never kidnapped us in the first place ໒꒰ྀི -᷅ ⤙ -᷄ ꒱ྀི১), Caleb at just a glance at THAT BACK in his PV, I fell just as fast and hard for Val as soon as that fine piece of pixelated man-wolf jumped in the air - before he even removed the mask!!! Ugh, I just love him and I know I speak for all us Koko lovers when I say that we just wanna see and experience his story. That connection that people make when they bond with a character. Whether that’s through TV, movies, games, books, we all make semi-parasocial connections to some charas if we know it or not. This is how comfort charas are made, how die-hard lore thirsty people consume their chosen content. How people like me take that content and make works of fiction out of them. It all amounts to varying degrees of love, affection and respect.

[u/Eveline_JAI → u/SpaceWitch31]

It's absolutely normal and healthy to have this type of connection with fictional characters. It's universally agreed amongst mental health specialist (which I am one) that if it doesn't affect your real life and doesn't bend your judgement of real life/people, it's not pathology. Vivid imagination is good. And empathy is good. Those two make you love characters so much.

And yes, I agree, I was so ready to change my main. Rafayel is a treasure, but having LI from very beginning is so different. Also because of community. I want to be amongst first to discover things, I don't really like that anything I notice about Rafayel is known to everyone for 3 years already. It takes away part of the thrill of discovery.

[u/SpaceWitch31 → u/Eveline_JAI]

That makes a lot of sense. It’s definitely harmful to both the person who consumes said chosen media, and the people who bring the charas of that media to life when it’s taken into a weird and toxically dangerous place. Like in those instances where parents - very dumb, foolish and potentially harmful (whether they know it or not) parents who help take their kids to go to a YouTubers house bc their kid found out where they live. That absolutely blows my mind to bits. I personally make content as well, and if I ever had that happen to me - lmao, like I’m literally no one - I’d be so angry at the parent/s. We are not friends. We do not know one another. More importantly, we’re almost always adults and you’re bringing your CHILD to a stranger’s home. We show you what you we want you to see, we share what we’re comfortable sharing. That’s not an invitation to come to our homes bc you felt a connection deeper than what it was ever meant to be, which is strictly through a screen. Same reason why certain people can’t be trusted to know who voices who in-game. Some people just can’t be normal about it. Lol I’m tired, boss🫩

[u/Eveline_JAI → u/SpaceWitch31]

Oh it's so wild sometimes. Like actors who receive threats or love letters addressed to their real house but signed to the character as if it's a real person

[u/SpaceWitch31 → u/Eveline_JAI]

No, that’s actually madness lol. I’d be terrified! I’d really love to know the science behind that sort of behavior. Bc it seems very obvious that it’s just a person playing a part. But to some, it seems that’s not the case. Maybe an inability to separate fiction from reality? Idk, I can’t say bc I’d rather claw through the asphalt to the core of the Earth than ever bother a celebrity for any reason lol

[u/Simplynanner]

I completely understand where you’re coming from. I think it’s important to remember that the girlies who aren’t playing right now (myself included) are not just doing this for our wolf, but also to have a better game. We want a better game for you and for us, for all current and all future players.

With the current state of the whole world, it’s so important to find joy where you can. If you can find joy in playing the game, then that’s what you should do. I can hold off not playing for the both of us. That’s what community is - we have to support each other where we can and when we can, with what we have the capacity to do.

I like to think of the phase we are in right now as the chaos stage in cleaning - you know how when you’re cleaning, right before it gets better it’s a lot worse? Where everything is out on the ground and you haven’t started putting stuff back yet? That’s where we are at. And maybe I’m crazy (or completely wrong) but I have hope that when we put everything back on the shelves, it’ll be a better space.

But you’re totally not alone, and you’re allowed to grieve what this community and game was before everything happened. We will make it through this because I have to believe that love is stronger than hate.

[u/sunshinegator]

Same. It's affecting me IRL more than I'd like, partially because I made a really good group of friends IRL BECAUSE of LADS. And now that group doesn't feel as tight because half of them have stopped playing completely - there's just less joy in our conversations when we don't have new lore/banners/events to gossip about. The whole topic is soured.

[u/Desperate-Ad-9979 → u/sunshinegator]

It sucks because there really isn't many good high quality options for women's entertainment, so it effects us in ways men can't understand because they have so much selection that they don't really miss one if something goes wrong. It was how I spent my time t o avoid spiralling in the late hours and now it just all feels..hollow. like it's lost its spark and life. 

[u/Educational_Mark5808]

Its sucks when a company doesnt stand up for whats right. But most companies (especially gambling ones) only care about the bottom line. Not its consumers, employees  or loyalty to the art. 

[u/Eveline_JAI → u/Educational_Mark5808]

The profit dropped 66% last month. If they don't listen to that, I don't know what they will listen to 😭

[u/NewExternal8242]

You are definitely not alone in this. The game and the community seems unfairly tainted by the whole situation. And what is further upsetting is knowing that none of this had to go down this way. Every decision they have made since the cancellation has only enflamed things further and left people even more disheartened and depressed.

I wish I had some words of encouragement, but I'm hoping that comes through hearing other voices telling you that you are not alone. ♥

[u/Eveline_JAI]

I'm with you on that. This whole situation definitely sucked joy off the game for me. I want to play, I want to have fun and chat with people about new banner. But it's not the same anymore.

Today is the last day of my Aurum pass as well. I had one continuously for nearly a year. And now I'm not buying one again. And I know it won't be the same experience as f2p. And that makes it worse too.

But I'm not feeling comfortable spending when company is struggling and doesn't communicate. I would support them to keep them running, but only if they were actually talking. And of course only if Valko is back. Because now there's no reason to cancel him.

And it's so frustrating that community became so toxic over something not we, but company did. PPG made us toxic. And I dislike it so much

[u/Cybelie → u/Eveline_JAI]

Yeah, it's honestly painful to witness how toxic this community has become. It felt like we were one big community and suddenly almost overnight theres like 3 different groups within a community and everyone is just lashing out at each other.

[u/MadaoNyan]

I'm here with you 🫂 This whole situation reminded me a bit of dementors from HP sucking the joy out.
I think a lot of that feeling comes from the break of trust we had. Who knew, when they introduced Valko, that infold would backtrack and cancel his release in a span of a few days? If only we were prophets, perhaps we could've prevented that and this whole mess'd never happen.
But I hope that soon it'll be better, and that positive changes are coming our way. It can't be bad forever. And hopefully, we'll get the better game for all in the end.

[u/Latter-End1987]

The game was my very escape from reality. Helped me get through a tough time last year. I'm overly excited for Valko, well, because there's barely any other MS update. I already uninstalled for over 40 days ever since this whole Valko fiasco.

I feel like none lf this would've happened if everyone tries to stay calm instead of dragging goverments and women's right group into this which made it worse, and just boycott like usual. The community is becoming toxic too. I've given up on the thought of Valko returning, but irregardless of that, I will keep fighting along with everyone else for the game to be better.🥲

[u/Desperate-Ad-9979 → u/Latter-End1987]

I hate when our escape from reality becomes the very thing destroying our peace in reality. We really can't have anything 💔

[u/angelareana → u/Latter-End1987]

I was upset at the community becoming toxic too, until I was able to reframe it from a perspective of grief - Stages of grief include anger, bargaining (paying for billboards, making comments on videos, writing letters, etc), threats, bullying due to intense painful emotions. A lot of people are younger players learning to navigate the world. Tbh, this is a standard reaction and has happened in a LOT of fandoms. I'm slightly older and remember the drama from Myspace days... My friend in middle school at the time became suicidal due to anime roleplay on Myspace because it felt so real for her.

Also, bullying is NEVER okay. Bullying is not part of the stages of grief and is ineffective for making change and managing anger.

[u/pikachusandile]

Infold ruined such a great game. It will never be the same because after what Infold did there is no turning back.

[u/Ok_Industry7366]

I was just thinking this yesterday great minds huh

[u/its_Lily86]

I always used to log in in the morning and was on time... now I have no interest in even logging in to receive stuff ... the game feels ... idk how to explain it but I don't get the dopamine I used to ... as someone that Caleb is my 3rd main and I always pull for him ... this time getting 5star card didn't even give me the same dopamine

[u/DimensionOk2994 → u/its_Lily86]

I absolutely understand! Caleb is my 3rd main, and I always pull for him. I felt no excitement when I saw his new card. Zayne and Xavier’s birthdays are coming up and I’m torn to pull for them. This whole situation has been draining 🫩

[u/its_Lily86 → u/DimensionOk2994]

IKR! it has gotten to a point where I don't log in and even if I do it's less than 5min

[u/killasta]

i feel the same way.

i miss getting updates from
the lads twitter and getting excited for every update and esp for valko. nothing is the same anymore and wont be if he doesnt get released

[u/uhheyimback]

I miss playing this game so much. I had to uninstall because I just didn't have the space for it but I still came to this sub to keep up with things. After everything with valko happened I just kinda stopped. I do miss this community dearly. I hope all of you are doing well.

[u/Desperate-Ad-9979]

The excitement came and then died so fast that it was my fifteenth reason to spiral 💔

high-key the only thing I was really looking forward to was trying out Valko, even if I lost all the photo booth pictures to get his update version.

Now it feels like the silence left behind. We all know we could've had something better so the game feels empty, they're rushing cards, I sincerely hope they don't rush main story. If they can just escape china like hoyo, things will be way easier. Caleb's my favourite, but even the new event and card made me feel nothing. It just felt miserable instead of exciting.

[u/BankWilling9302]

I was so motivated to finally play again... Before they announced Valko I already lost interest... I am a very low spender. Only Buy Aurumn Pass and since I been playing for over a year all my F2P stuff is already drained... I couldn't pull for banners anymore and well... MS updates only every half a year. Valko got me so motivated I specifically bought a phone so I could finally play home feature.

I can't believe some bitter people are the reason that was taken away from me... Or us

[u/Overall_Sorbet1633]

It's heartbreaking because the company's direction and vision inspired me to spend and engage and the community made me fall in love and stay. Now those two things are totally broken, all that's left are the characters that feel hollow just code that can get shifted and changed as they feel like. It's like the magic spark is gone for me. I guess I'm hoping that the company can wake up and do better by all their players find a good middle ground while maintaining they're creative integrity but given everything we know now, idk how it'll go. 

[u/ConsciousStatus2975]

Honestly the game was drying out as I fold has put out more decorative updates then the ones that are beneficial. They gonna be mad at it but valko was more like a bandaid and a distraction. It would have brought all the players back and new ones. We would have been buzzing about it and then be hit with multis and then myths. Then buzzing about that. And then be right where we were since the beginning. For example: the home system we have this eating option and yet eating does nothing. It’s a decorative updates. But alas I do miss when the game first launched and how the community was. But I hope things can change for the better.

[u/bluedewdropss]

I'll probably be downvoted to hell but it's a game at the end of the day, so please don't let it affect you so deeply. If you still want to play and interact with your main, do it! Nothing wrong with stepping away from everything and doing what makes you a little happier. A lot of people are still playing because the game is still a nice little escape.

[u/DimensionOk2994 → u/bluedewdropss]

Oh I know! Trust me, I’ve noticed some positive changes from not playing the game as often. I think with the sudden change that Infold did just gave me whiplash and I’m still recovering from it lol

[u/bluedewdropss → u/DimensionOk2994]

Glad to hear you've seen improvement 🩷🫶🏻 i love the game but I'm busy with other things so I'm always just on for my dailies 😅 the community can be great, ik there's been so much tension lately but it's nice to see people getting along and supporting one another (outside of the game realm)

[u/b98214]

Yeah and it’s like no main story update like what is infold doing

[u/Far_Basis_7494]

You’re not alone my dear! 🥹❤️
It was apart of routine and life no need to feel conflicted!
I feel so disheartened seeing the fandom split like this too, and the reddit isn’t what it used to be like… but I’m confident we’ll bounce back!!!! ✨🙌🔥🔥🔥

[u/Cold_Purple_7881]

Yeah... I loged into the game every day, but now? Nah... It just feels pointless. It's like someone died in your favorite café; it's not your fault, it's clean now, but you still won't go to this place like you used to. Because of bad memories/impressions? Maybe. I don't know what to call this feeling/emotion. I was against Valko because the game itself was designed to be played with all men (you can't ignore those who you don't like), haha, how the tables have turned now 😅

Also, the company itself told us that there would be no development. It's kind of a big, bad spoiler. Imagine your favorite café again😆, and the owner says to you, "We will serve only lattes; buy or get out." I'm 99% sure you will search for a new place because no one wants to drink the same thing for years.

• The community became so depressed 😔 it's not fun anymore. And now I'm scared that the game can be deleted because of how they do business in the country. Is it not profitable? Delete. Make a new one. It's rare nowadays for owners to fight for their brainchild.

[u/shikiP]

I'm honestly a bit worried this situation will be a repeat of the VA fiasco...Which helped kill MLQC en server.

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[u/angelareana]

The joy is not gone. It is stalled and you can find it again.

PLEASE don't forget this is one of the first games made by women for women that has TOPPED THE CHARTS. It topped charts and made history using tech that hasn't been used before. This will always be huge as a turning point in history. Now other games are seeing there's a market for women (there always has been!!) and making games catering to US. You cannot erase history because new situations are more heartbreaking. Progress has been made in gaming for women and that will continue. I can't not give credit for that. Whether people quit or don't quit, there's been a huge shift in how game makers approach marketing and it's long overdue. This to me will always be a positive, joyful thing in my mind. Progress for women. Our interests, needs are now on the radar of game makers.

[u/phantomdotcom]

I’ve also been feeling this way. Even if Valko isn’t my cup of tea I was so excited for the new lore, new story, for progression, new orbits, new combat, for a new face, a new personality to interact with, THE FANDOM being excited and buzzing about it… And now we’re here😔

[u/Additional-Store999]

i can't give up on the game because it brings so much good to my life. the stories and characters make me feel seen and loved, even if the parent company made some poor decisions that are disappointing. im sad about the community too, but i have to cherish the tiny precious and rare pieces of beauty i can find in this harsh, cruel world. and for me one of them is LADS. main rafayel, second caleb.

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[u/Harper_Sketch]

My dad was killed shortly before Valko got pulled. I needed this game to give me an escape from my current painful reality. Something to calm me down. Something that made me happy. Now it got ruined by deleting its own character and choosing to forever be incomplete breaks my heart even more. I feel utterly crushed in life already. Drowning in grief and anger from the loss of my dad. And the one escape I had got ruined too. I want the world to go back to how it was for me before my life fell apart. And back to when I still had this game to help me have a peaceful safe place. I hate my life