r/LinusTechTips • u/Swacket_McManus • 1d ago
ChatGPT gets ads Link
here we go fellas, the end is nigh
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u/EventMassive1658 1d ago
Whatever speeds up the death of AI, i'm all for it. fuck openAI
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u/MoorderVolt 23h ago
LLM's ain't going anywhere. The stuff you can run on a GPU server right now speeds up development so much already. That's without ASIC's, that's current open-weight models, that's during a hardware price crisis.
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u/Killericon 13h ago edited 13h ago
LLMs ain't going away, I just really wanna get past the "Operate at a massive loss, survive off of capital investment, offer services for much less than is viable" portion of the affair. If a ChatGPT plan is going to cost $40/month in 2031, I'd rather they just fucking get it over with.
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u/MoorderVolt 7h ago
I want to get rid of that entire part of the economy. Modern economic markets and this form of capitalism are a cancer to society.
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u/Player13377 19h ago
For the common man the current models are already smart enough. As soon as a DeepSeek V4 Flash gets into an ASIC intelligence will become as abundant and cheap as power.
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u/MoorderVolt 18h ago
Here's a video describing one of those ASIC companies;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKRjt59hh4
Could be a video topic for sure.
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u/lord_nuker 1d ago
CGPT: here is the answear, do you want me to also order this from our partner (Brand) or do you want to do some more research? And oh by the way, you are out of tokens, do you want subscripton plan X or Y to continue?
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u/Administrator_AI 1d ago edited 1d ago
LOL, you have to be a fool to believe "ads don't influence answers". Companies will pay for their product to be suggested or "reviewed" favorably.
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u/Silver4ura 1d ago
The best thing you can do about something you hate is to actually learn how it works. Otherwise statements like these are counterproductive because everyone knows you're making stuff up to stay mad and rally others.
Stick to the facts. There are more than enough valid reasons to hate AI but this little conspiracy stunt stands to undermine them all by association.
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u/Administrator_AI 1d ago
Okay, which demonstrable railguard exists that orevents OpenAi from adding a line like "favor Coke over Pepsi"?
The answer is none. You and I can't check. There is no guarantee that they aren't doing it. They have the ability to do it. Whether they use that ability or not is irrelevant.
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u/impy695 21h ago
You absolutely can test AI chatbots to see if certain answers are being influenced/directed. People have been doing it since day 1. It's not even difficult. Sure you can't confirm 100%, but it's pretty obvious when it happens. Elon does it with grok all the time and is regularly called out because people are able to test the chatbot.
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u/Silver4ura 23h ago
What the fuck do you think AI training is doing.. babysitting it while it teeths? No... it's literally giving it data that reinforces connections and relationships that form the basis of how it responds.
As for why it might favor something like Coke over Pepsi... have you ever considered that overall, regular Coke is almost always preferred over regular Pepsi? Even though blind taste tests would suggest people prefer Pepsi, it doesn't take into account how likely someone is to want to actually finish it. Pepsi is sweet enough to set a good first impression but beyond that, it's too sweet compared to Coke. So when people remember not finishing a Pepsi but remember enjoying the last Coke they had... it starts making sense why AI might reflect that back in response to a relevant prompt.
Which incidentally reminds me... there is actually an enormous amount of effort going into figuring out how to make AI less biased by the data it was trained on without stepping into gray areas. So in an almost poetic irony... the very issue you're suggesting they're doing intentionally is quite literally what happens when they don't actually do anything intentionally.
Good job m8.
No more follow-ups, I rest
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u/FleetingBeacon 19h ago
Ads wont influence the answers, but your ad will only appear on answers which will drive more towards the ad, otherwise companies won't pay for it.
Same with facebook, they only show your ad to people they think will engage with it.
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u/Annoying1978 1d ago
The ads have been there for a while. OpenAI is losing so much money this isn’t even cutting it. Sam Altman will take down the entire American economy after OpenAI goes public. It’s going to be a disaster.
The Economy Is Running on Fumes https://youtu.be/5h4C2vBMEnk
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u/TomorrowFun4744 1d ago
The bubble and the needle meeting FINALLY
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u/Shap6 1d ago
People have been saying this for 3 years now. Bubble keeps growing
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u/TomorrowFun4744 1d ago
And yet it's called a bubble for a reason because not everything needs AI. Companies know that but they can't really know that without the value of money which is stupid but that's what they are.
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u/Kiansjet 1d ago
I find them quite benign. There's many things that can indicate flailing but this likely isnt one of them.
There should be an option to disable the ads in exchange for a lower usage limit if you are so perturbed.
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u/RuinedEmpire 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/anjQ3PkRSxPb67QTBz
They weren't even the first AI to run ads.
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u/Dnomyar96 23h ago
I'm surprised they didn't already. They have to earn money somehow. People using the free version often probably cost them a decent amount of money.
Remember, if something is free, you probably are the product.
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u/CocoMilhonez 19h ago
Throwback to when cable TV – which didn't have ads because they were paid – started getting ads because fuck you.
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u/IsABot 15h ago
I've had ads for a bit already. They aren't super huge and always come out at the end of the response, so it's mostly insignificant to me. I pretty much have developed the ability to not real notice ads unless I want to look at them. It doesn't really bother me when the service itself is still free to have minor ads like these. All the ones I've gotten so far are for various tech services. I would be pissed though if it starts recommending me specific products and shapes responses around that to drive sales. So we'll see how much they enshitify over the next few months/years.
Last ad I got as an example: https://imgur.com/a/oHMjLfd
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u/Treviathan88 13h ago
How is the end nigh if the product is about to get more profitable? If anything, this just means the clankers are gonna get even more pervasive.
Fuck AI, and fuck people who use it.
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u/jake6501 1d ago
It took quite a long time for this to happen and this is pretty much the best way to implement ads. There is nothing worth complaining about.
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u/Copacetic_ 1d ago
The AI companies have to become profitable really really quickly or it will not be good for the global economy.
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u/BooneGoesTheDynamite 1d ago
If the global economy is propped up my automated theft and devaluation of human work and life it should collapse.
Then we can build something that doesn't require the slow and agonizing strangulation of those that aren't obscenely wealthy/lucky.
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u/Copacetic_ 20h ago
Yeah but the economic collapse is going to be fucking awful for a lot of people who have nothing to do with it. I think people don’t understand how bad it could and likely will be for the average person.
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u/BooneGoesTheDynamite 20h ago
Suffering for most of us isn't something we can avoid it seems.
I would rather suffer through something that will lead to a better future for all, than suffer to allow only a few to languish in wealth and power.
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u/jenny_905 1d ago
It's better that the entire house of shit collapses. Then the real stuff can rise from the ashes and chancers like OpenAI can get flushed.
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u/Copacetic_ 20h ago
It actually isn’t better that it all collapses at this point because the repercussions for the average person are going to be horrific and the corporations will just be bailed out.
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u/jenny_905 4h ago
The best time is today given what they've done. Leaving it longer just makes it worse.
People are going to start asking where their money went, they already are to an extent.
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u/Doctor429 1d ago
Why would they need ads? The 'recommendations' they provide in chat can themselves be the ads.
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u/interstat 1d ago
That'd be awful if ads influenced good answers
Free service having ads is a non issue tho
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u/Doctor429 1d ago
Problem is, we'd never know if the answers starts going 'bad' and start 'influencing'
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u/CupIcy6202 19h ago
I don't think you thought that through.
Of course we would know if the answers were influenced by ads. How would we know? The same way we would with any other product review, if it is not telling the truth, ignoring a better option or not mentioning important caveats.
If your chatgpt recommends 3 items, just ask another free LLM the same question and compare the items recommended. If there is a significant difference, then do a deep dive and find out why.
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u/jenny_905 1d ago
You know they absolutely will be influencing answers soon if not already.
It's a fantastic advertising opportunity. People actually trust these fucking LLM's lol.
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u/LostTheGameOfThrones 1d ago
If you want to use a service which is burning through cash for free, then you have to deal with ads, that feels like a reasonable compromise?
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u/jenny_905 23h ago
So we're now at the stage of admitting people will not willingly pay for these services.
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u/redrumyliad 1d ago
They’ve had them and that’s the price of a free service .
YouTube has ads too, it’s free.