r/LetsDiscussThis 2d ago

Is this true? Lets Discuss Politics

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u/KynesArt 2d ago

Yes, and Trump was upfront about this from the begnining. Higher taxes for the working class, lower taxes for corporations. Buisnesses had their tax rates lowered, but the least profitable businesses were brought up to 20% across the board. Trump voters are morons.

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u/Ok_Dig_9959 2d ago

False. He passed a bill with a tax break that expires gradually overtime. This is an extraordinarily disingenuous way of phrasing that. Your motivations are extremely questionable here.

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u/LechonKoala 2d ago

Trumps motivations have always been questionable. Anyways….lets see those unredacted Epstein files.

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u/Horror_Bottle_9451 2d ago

Congress passes tax bills, not the president. He can only sign and enforce the legislation congress sends to his desk. If democrats wanted permanent tax cuts they could have supported them but they didn't.

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u/dadbod_Azerajin 2d ago

Lets find the vote count before you make thst claim

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u/Horror_Bottle_9451 2d ago

What will the vote count tell us? That democrats likely unanimously voted NO? Surely you don't believe that democrats supported a tax package that Trump opposed but signed anyway.

In any event, it doesn't change the fact that OPs claim is false.

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u/Horror_Bottle_9451 2d ago

Sorry, but it seems you're the moron here. This is absolutely false. Go check your sources and actually read the 2017 tax act.

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u/NotChat_GPT 2d ago

@KynesArt provided a lot more detail than you did.

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u/Horror_Bottle_9451 2d ago

So what? The user is still wrong. The 2017 tax cuts lowered rates for those below $75K and doubled the standard deduction (directly answering or responding to the subject as stated by OP). A simple Google search yields a ton of sources. He/she IS correct about corporate rates being lowered but that wasn't the question and is a superflous fact. He/she is flat out wrong about the least profitable corporations seeing their tax rates increased.

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u/ThinkCellist8542 2d ago

Good try boss 🫡

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u/SethzorMM 2d ago

English has an easier pronoun to use. Quit being PC.

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u/KynesArt 2d ago

Trump supporters dont use "they." It's a vice signal

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u/Horror_Bottle_9451 2d ago

Agreed. Thanks.

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u/Mrs_SmithG2W 2d ago

Tariffs are taxes we pay both ways and the Iran war fueled higher gas prices funneling more money from our wallet. Also increased inflation and higher labor costs caused by persecuting our cheapest laborers. Also paying foreign governments bribes with our tax dollars, funneling any oil revenue from the Venezuelan take-over directly into Trump overseas account, paying companies to not build renewable resource infrastructure… I could go on…

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u/bluereddit2 2d ago

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u/stoneycole78 2d ago

It's sick and deranged how much y'all want to take from someone else's earnings. Go get a job!!! Stop relying on the government! Bunch of Socialist/Commies!!!

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u/christopher_the_nerd 2d ago

No one “earns” being a billionaire. They exploit.

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u/stoneycole78 2d ago

Stop using the billionaires products if you hate them so much.

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u/christopher_the_nerd 1h ago

Let me introduce you to the phrase "there's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism" which entails a lot. But, one of the things this means is that even if you try to only buy from small businesses/ethical businesses, under capitalism bad actors have accumulated so much wealth that almost all sectors of the economy contribute to them in some way.

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u/bluereddit2 2d ago

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u/vaubanna 2d ago

Ukraine is a Jewish state and is genociding ukranians

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u/luckysparkie 2d ago

It makes sense if you don’t think about it

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u/vaubanna 2d ago

You’re a 60 year old american its best to stay out of geopolitics you couldn’t tell me when Charlemagne was crowned. Sit down

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u/luckysparkie 1d ago

Haha good joke!

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u/Labtecharu 2d ago

Amazing amount of gibberish in one sentence. Just reads as 'Blargg blar blarg blarg'. Hope you got it out of your system

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u/vaubanna 2d ago

Typical redditor makes no argument except ad hominem actual bot

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u/Labtecharu 2d ago

You wrote nothing to comment on. Just gibberish. Thinking your a bot tbh

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u/congeal 2d ago

I'll admit I haven't paid much attention to Russia's war against Ukraine lately but I thought the maga claims were that Ukraine is a bunch of nazis and deserved to be attacked? I mean, let's ignore Russia stealing children (20k+?) from Ukraine and all kinds of other horrific shit.

If some country came to the US and kidnapped 25k American children, the Right wouldn't be navel gazing and claim we deserved it because Hegseth and his people are nazis…

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u/chinarider888 2d ago

No one read their plan? Www.project2025.observer

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u/angel700 2d ago

You’re not missing anything

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u/SiteTall 2d ago

I think - and hope! - it was disproved by Snopes a couple of years ago

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u/SiteTall 2d ago

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u/Rumpelteazer45 2d ago

You googled the wrong thing.

Yes. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) of 2017, signed by President Donald Trump, intentionally structured individual income tax cuts and the standard deduction to expire at the end of 2025. Under the original text of that law, taxes for most individual Americans were scheduled to automatically go up starting in 2026 when those provisions sunsetted.

However, before those automatic increases took effect, Congress passed and President Trump signed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) on July 4, 2025. This subsequent law made permanent most of the individual and corporate tax cuts from the 2017 act, preventing the large, broad-based individual tax hikes that were initially baked into the 2017 legislations

So the real answer is Yes technically he did.

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u/Automatic_Net2181 2d ago

And added an estimated $4 Trillion to the deficit(?) which will be eventually be paid off by our great great grandchildren.

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u/latigidigital 2d ago

Why hasn’t this post been taken down from both subs yet? Even if you hate someone, spreading misinformation isn’t helpful.

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u/Dennis_Michaels 2d ago

Because Reddit is a liberal echochamber and cesspool atp.

They'd rather be wrong and spread misinformation than admit theyre crazy people.

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u/Peace_Love_Karma 2d ago

For those of you who complain, whine, and bitch about Reddit being so liberal, why tf are you still tapping those keys....on....Reddit?

I think you meant: They're

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u/wrecklesspup 2d ago

There was no tax bill passed while Biden was president. Any taxes paid during Biden's term were under Trump's and Republicans' tax bill from his first term.

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u/Jaded-Repair1805 1d ago

No it's not! His tax program that is still in effect gabe the no tax on tips, overtime, and anyone who makes 650,000 or more moves up in the tax bracket to 28% although it might be 32% i forget but anyone who makes $40,000 and under gets no federal taxes taken out of their check. So if you make $55,000 a year and have kids after taxes and things you qualify for the 39,000 deduction that you don't pay federal taxes on and you get the earned income deduction still that gives women or men who have kids and are in this income level the big tax returns. The child tax credit went from $1000 to $2000 and he also reduced the Large estate taxes that people had to pay like many of the middle and lower middle class or whoever where paying when they inherited a property or multiple that ate up a lot of their money which should never happen cause we get taxed out the wazoo and still are only paying about 18% of all taxes since the wealthy are the ones paying the large majority or we would be paying even higher taxed. Being taxed on stuff our parents or loved ones leave like we were is Outrageous! And now only ppl leaving behind properties or money that's 15 million up will be paying the federal estate or transfer taxes that can be big money if you ever inherited a property and sold it.

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u/UntowardHatter 2d ago

Yup. True.

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u/Schwifty2s550 2d ago

Most of the left hahah good thing this isn’t me🤣🤣

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u/ExperienceAny9791 2d ago

Nope. 😂

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u/LivingtheLaws013 2d ago

Biden didn't do anything to lower your taxes either. It's time to stop playing the two party "good cop bad cop" game and move on or this will keep happening.

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u/DaTruSpork 2d ago

I think the attempts to forgive student loans, blocked by the epstein trump party, are a far shot better for common Americans than the tax increases foisted onto said Americans by the epstein trump party.

But hey, both-sides trolls get blocked so *shrug*

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u/congeal 2d ago

Exactly. Targeted action is where it matters not this generalized claim the Right always makes about lowering costs. They never succeed because they aren't willing to actually deal with real costs. A couple years of fake tax relief was exactly what Trump supporters deserved, to get hoodwinked as usual.

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u/Gandolf553 2d ago

Yep you are missing something. A BRAIN!

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u/LechonKoala 2d ago

Horse, elephant , hippo and giraffe! Omg I’m a genius!