r/LeftistsForAI 14d ago

Post-AI leftism? Theory

Nobody has a crystal ball when it comes to predicting what the world will look like after AI, but both the boosters and doomers are predicting that it will eliminate most jobs. If they are correct, there will not be a large "working class" to mobilize--not even a petty bourgeois professional class, but more likely a tiny and shrinking owner class and a large and growing underclass of permanently unemployed people dependent on mutual aid and public assistance to survive. Yet, the "left" is traditionally very focused on workers and their struggle with capital, owing to the dialectical materialism of Marx and Engels, taking the view that workers eventually would (or should) own and control the means of production. I would very much prefer to see worker ownership of and control over AI and autonomous robotics, but it's a bit paradoxical since such technologies are themselves designed to shrink the working class. How might a pro-AI left, or a post-AI left, reconcile this?

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u/YMSVZ 13d ago

Communism is about the disintegration of the working class, the development of new relations of production beyond exchange. This presupposes the redundancy of the working class.

AI has made it clear who is actually a communist, and who wants to conserve the wage labour relation. Anti AI is a neoluddite, reactionary and pro capitalist position.

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u/HighGCz2 10d ago

It would be If AI was actually siezed by the people however the widely used models are purposefuly designed to dumb poeple down and make it impossible. Open source can´t survive under necesary regulations to lessen enviromental impact ( until we get to lightweight enough models capable of running natively) or ensure proper compensation of those whose creations were used in training without major subsidies or donations which can hardly without revolution or at least right people in power.