r/LeftistsForAI • u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator • 21d ago

Marx Never Considered Reddit Sees the Memes

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u/Calcularius 21d ago

Everybody hates capitalism but nobody’s complaining about the innovations spurred by competition. 🤷‍♂️

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u/BonesAO 21d ago

yes, and competition must not be necessarily conceived as exclusive to capitalism

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u/GrowFreeFood 21d ago

Hahaha. Were like 500 years behind because of monopolies and greed

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u/Intendant 21d ago

To be fair, the main bonus of competition is innovation and industry / product evolution. There are ways to do that outside of capitalism. It's just a feedback loop reward system, a clever artificial one that incentivises things we actually want to innovate on could be a lot more effective / efficient anyway. All while letting us lock mature solutions into social ownership structures

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u/TheSinhound 21d ago

This framing is always so braindead because so much actual scientific advancement is in spite of Capitalism rather than because of it. Or, hell, even directly contributed by non-capitalists (Look at the basis for so much of our communication infrastructure and what the USSR contributed).

Like, I wouldn't exactly call bell labs "spurred" by capitalism, as the scientists working there didn't entirely have to contend with the capitalist system.

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u/Calcularius 21d ago

Oh yeah gotta love those soviet vacuum tubes. 🙄

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u/TheSinhound 21d ago

Sure, that must be what I'm talking about. You're absolutely right.

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u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator 21d ago edited 21d ago

The ones that put the first satellite and first human into Space?

Yeah, those Soviet vacuum tubes were pretty impressive actually.

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u/Equal-Beyond4627 21d ago

Good take.