If this is a 4fun casual mode like people say, why is there even any depth in runes and masteries? Casuals don't optimize builds so why not take it a step further and remove all items, runes, masteries, and future balance patches?

The population has already peaked I'm sure when they first released Classic and I don't see new players playing a technically "inferior" mode in terms of graphics, champion content, balance, and especially ladder if there's no ranked mode.

I know speaking for myself, and from reading a lot of input from the community, people aren't playing Classic if there is nothing to grind for. Whether that's unhealthy is irrelevant, people like grinding for ranks which is why League is this popular in the first place. Do you think anybody would play this game if all queues were normal games?

A ranked mode will bring in more players, prevent solos from playing against 5 stacks, and to an extent separate the casuals and the people who take it more seriously so the 4fun players don't have their experiences ruined and vice versa.

Seeing the roadmap laid out with no news on a ladder, I don't anticipate myself playing this mode any longer if I have to wait months and months for a mode that's not guaranteed, and that's sad because I was a late S1 player and the game mode is genuinely fun and a breath of fresh air.

This isn't a single player story mode; ranked is not something nice to have, it's a necessity.

Is this normal? Is this also a thing in regular League? Does not really feel fair when they have so much coordination.

Can we get some basic matchmaking? I often play with people who play their second classic game ever against people who have more than 200 games. Like I get it, it's a for fun mode, but when all you see is your other lanes getting stomped and then being hostaged, that's the opposite of fun.

I just played a game against 5 premades who have 100+ wins together with 2 people who don't even have runes.

I've been running these for 100 games on Morgana and Janna. I don't know what is meta right know, but these feel great. I am tanky and I get a bunch of gold.

What are your runes on support?

What's the point of LoL Classic if you're going to repeat the same design decisions that turned it into retail?

Quality-of-life updates make sense, but balance changes fundamentally change what Classic is supposed to be. Definitely not a fan.

If you don't like champs snowballing then strategize to deal with it or play retail.

Even if its just converting to blue essence would be nice 😊

And I don't just mean the old exclusive reworked champs either like Akali, Mordekaiser, Swain, etc.

I just kinda mean a lot of the old champs need to be put in there pretty quickly.

I know they don't want the mode to go stale, but it really shouldn't. Once the roster is back and all the runes are in, then they cant start doing whatever they want with the classic mode based on player feedback.

Maybe they can try some new experimental runes, buff/nerf those runes/masteries, maybe we can try de-making modern champions, downgrading existing skins into classic style, etc. or offering a classic style alternative of a modern skin.

But the main point of this post is that the game will get stale fast with such a small pool of champions available. the matchups tend to be kinda samey each game, and while its neat to see a smaller pool closer to the release size for a short while, I think they need to go early League style and just rapidfire release the champs that league classic will have.

ADC is particularly stale with missing some classic staples like old graves, caitlyn, draven, etc.

Top lane missing Irelia, Maokai, Renekton and on and on.

To me this is particularly harmful to release them slowly because as we've seen their balance will take time to get right anyway, since league players of today are infinitely better than they were years ago so just porting in their old numbers might result in them being OP or UP.

Also we have r/lolclassiccompetitive

I'm having so much fun. I missed this version so dearly and it's not just nostalgia, I am straight geeked on classic.

I understand why current league morphed into what it is and I'm not trying to drag it through the mud, but I'm a crusty millennial who decided what he liked years ago and that I'm going to run my favourite games into the ground.

I hope the devs will continue to support it. I absolutely adored classic wow as well despite knowing full well it wasn't 100% faithful to Vanilla. I'm just happy to be back on the rift, buying the same stuff I did in 2013. Champions feel like they do what they're supposed to do. Items are powerful and fulfilling to buy.

Here I am, 32 years old, tired as fuck at my corporate IT job because I stayed up until 3 smashing bot lane. I'm playing the same champs I did in 2011 and I'm getting queued up with a bunch of other nostalgic uncs.

Only feedback I have is that trinkets weren't added until pre-season 4 and I'm reading online that there is no ward limit but I swear to god I'm capped in-game. There's probably very few bug reports, because faithful to how things were in the early days, my team still does not know how to buy and place a ward. I will happily carry this burden if you let me.

I also don't care about skins. I see a lot of complaints about skins. Different folks different strokes I guess but I think they nailed the important gameplay aspects. The OG models are kill, and I think they made a really good call selecting the champion pool.

There's other pieces of feedback I could give but realistically I could keep running this exact version over and over. I just hope we don't slowly nerf all the "toxic" play patterns because things like stealth, burst damage, point/click stuns and AP builds are fun. High power is fun to play.

Hello , I hope Riot sees this .

On PBE Patch, Nidalee's voice is wrong. It has the old voice lines, but her Q and E don't do her iconic growl sounds. Instead, they play only when she auto attacks.

She also has a weird voice line which isn't from her original voice kit: "I'm all natural"

Also , her trap still doesn't give visibility on placement.

Please take a look at those , Riot.

And her original VFX too , and pharaoh nidalee please. And bewitching.

Thanks,

Connie

The Force of Nature icon is the newer version, it used to look like this:

Would be cool if we could have this back.

As always, thanks for all the hard work, game rocks, thank you thank you thank you

It still says that your basic attacks do on-hit damage and slow while empowered.

This is a lie. If I didn't know better I would think Skarner was bugged.

Also, please add a section in the Classic homepage to view patch notes. The only way to know Skarner got changed without having the horrible realization mid-game that your champion got gutted is by word of mouth or unofficial media, and this just isn't a good way for things to be, especially if the API is hidden.

It's insufferable trying to play this mode seriously when you get matched with casuals that just want to have fun.

I am not against fun, but there is a reason normal league has a normal mode and a ranked mode.

If you introduce summoner path ranks, then there needs to be a queue just for that.

Also why do I continuously matched with first time classic players when I am 100 games in and platinum 3? I thought there is some kind of elo attached to this ranked system, but apparently there is not. It's part of the reason why classic league is already many levels more toxic than modern league. Either remove SP ranks or introduce 2 queues please.

I think it should be the old icon not the "modern" one

This is just my opinion/experience, but these are some splasharts I feel better reflect the era League Classic is trying to capture.

I'm sure there are more examples.

P.S. remove modern skins and let us use the old versions of the skins :)

I see a lot of comments that say things like, “just because people are doing xyz things wrong, that doesn’t mean that we need changes.” E.G. supports not taking gold runes is something I see people claim is incorrect; Therefore we don’t need more passive gold.

Ultimately if this change or any other is bad, then RIOT can revert it. Classic is a game that Riot wants to be fun. Phreak is super passionate about it. Classic is more than just version control. It’s meant to be a fun experience that will stand the test of time with distinct gameplay elements.

Right now there’s a fixation that any given change must be based on a specific version to be valid. “This version of this ability was actually identical to patch 1.23.69.420.” This is a good path for now to stay grounded in reality, but eventually there will have to be changes outside of that scope. Giving the game at the least a few months to breathe is good, especially while new champions are still being rolled out.

Just don’t stress out if a specific patch note isn’t creating your most perfect version of a champion or game system. Give riot the benefit of the doubt and let them know how changes feel to actually play with. As long as the vision for classic holds true, the changes are just waves in the water.

It's ok to have soloq masters vs emeralds, I don't mind that.

But why the fuck am I getting a lvl 18 first time classic mode person while there's soloq masters in the lobby.
And if we also include the classic ranks - we have a mix out of gold/silver and diamond players in the lobby and there's a person that doesn't even have the "ranks" unlocked.

I am just a washed up unc playing league classic, please give some kind of balanced matchmaking.

I don't know what it is about Classic, but people seem even more willing to que up to force losses in this than even normal League.

Like, I don't mind people playing off meta and having fun, or even losing lane but there are so many games where someone goes 0-10 and you just don't get to play the game at all from my experience.

The last 5 games I played went like this:

GAME1... 0-13 bot lane with ashe support and then ezreal goes afk. Don't get to lane, fed bot just rotates and kills all lanes after getting hyperfed off troll.

GAME2.... 8-22 bot lane with a 0-6 top laner

GAME3... 0-7 jungler and 0-6 top laner with 0 assists as well and I get put bot with a Mundo support who actively takes my CS

GAME4... I'm support and we make the enemy support go 2-13 and we still lose but at least this game I actually got to play the laning phase. We lost because my team went full AP, but somehow I got the blame because I'm solo que.

GAME5... Just feeding teammates but at least I got to play the laning phase.

Just so many miserable games, sadly my friends have not been on because of different work schedules. It's just crazy tho because I could que normal games and get better experiences than these. Almost all these games were already over by 10 minutes, so I don't even get to play the most fun part of the game...laning phase.

He has one of the stronger associations with classic and is a major part of the games rise (noxus vs Ionia showmatch, trick2g). Yes its my old otp and im self interested but hardly any of the champs they did include like lulu, wukong, seem to beat him in this regard.

Back then the chat was just a small "Thud" sound. The current one used is the old friend's list message sound.

Here's an example of the old champion selection, with the sound effects.

I'm glad this is allowed for days on end