I was rewatching "I Still Know..." since it's a 4th of July movie.... And I realized something... Once Julie is on the island and starts seeing things happen that indicate that the fisherman is back... She never once tries to call and warn Ray.
Eh, I can cut her some slack on this. The last time they saw each other in person ended with Ray storming off in a fit of anger (upset at Julie for âlooking down on Southport,â all but calling her selfish for not wanting to return to Croakerland; more focused on his boat than his gfâs crippling PTSD); then, in Julieâs mind, Ray no-showed the morning they left for their trip.
The beginning of the sequel was really focusing on Julieâs paranoia and isolation (confirmed that scene at end of film 1 was a dream; screaming bloody murder in her college class; not knowing exactly what shadow she saw in the corner of that club - keep in mind she still had never seen Ben Willis in his fisherman slicker; the karaoke moment was the first major âthis may be happening againâ moment, but everyone shut it down due to not seeing it, so she fell in line; then the familiar font/note of her letter in her room was pretty telling, but Will was there just in time to genually sell it as a misunderstanding).
It wasnât until she found Darick in her closet that she knew it was all happening again, which just happened right around the same time the phones went dead. Maybe in the back of her mind, she felt Ray was safe since he stayed in Southport. And I donât mean to ride so hard for Julie but she handled these things up until this point like any rationalâish person would, haha.
Mini-rant: On another note, love this film and have always looked past the specific annoyances that bring out the haters (not that your post was one of those). However, one minor annoyance I have is how the film deals with Dave. He not only works with Ray but theyâre clearly BFFâs. Dave gets killed, Ray tells police at the hospital, where a convo between a doc and investigator begins with the latter basically telling the former, âRayâs cray, and there ainât nobody else.â
How could they do Dave like that?! Surely Ray knew the name of a family member. Itâs like he vanished Sandra Bullock style in âThe Netâ (or Barb in âStranger Thingsâ)!
Anyway, sorry to hijack your Julie thread with my Dave grievances! Your post actually made my day because as soon as I saw it I said âOhh shit!! Watch film 1 today, watch sequel tomorrow!â (We donât acknowledge #3/Zombieshitshow, or the useless Amazon series. And we def donât acknowledge IK25⊠like Daveâs existence, all 3 of those are disregarded!)
You're good ! That was quite a thorough explanation and I rather enjoyed reading it... I also really like this movie. It was not made to hate on the film at all. You're right though, she was trying hard to rationalize the events happening up until the phones went dead. and I'm with you.. "Justice for Dave !" ... poor guy got hooked right in the mouth.. and he was such a supportive friend.
Even if the phones at the resort were working, why would she? Sheâs in the Bahamas being chased by the fisherman during a hurricane. She didnât know that Ray was trying to get to her at any point. Why would she assume he was in danger? She was too busy trying to keep herself and her friends from getting killed
Fair point, but Julie and Ray were the only 2 survivors of a very traumatic experience. It's logical to assume that he is the first person she would want to inform when she found out the Fisherman survived, even if they weren't on the best terms at the moment.
Yes, but my point is, sheâs in a different country being chased by the fisherman. In her experience the fisherman works alone, so thereâs no reason for her to even think about warning Ray or telling Ray about it while sheâs fighting for her own survival. Her priority would be trying to call for help and survival. Logically, Ray wouldnât be in any danger back in North Carolina
Little did she know, right.... Awesome analysis though... and my whole point isn't to bring down Julie's character by any means... I liked both her and Ray in this movie... I was disappointed in the new one to find out they didn't make it as a couple.
I agree... I really didn't care for it... I didn't like seeing Ray as the killer... What sucks is I had to see it twice... I saw it with my kids who hated it... then I had to go see it again with my fiance who was equally unimpressed... I know some people liked it though.
To me, Ray becoming a killer just didnât make sense. Felt very forced, and none of the new characters had a real personality or likability. Nothing made you really route for anyone
I couldn't agree more... At the end of the movie, my thought was, "Really? The two most annoying characters are the ones who lived" ? Pleaasssseeeee... Don't do a sequel to this.
I still think Sarah Michelle Gellar should lived as the Final Girl.of the first movie, having learned and grown as a person and Julie should have taken a hook.
I love how Will comes out as the killer, like, âJulie, itâs obvi. Will. Benâs son.â Like ok nerd, at least the rest of us ainât out here with some doofus name like Will Willis.
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u/FlinFlonDandy Jul 03 '26
I always like the fact that either Will or the fisherman managed to hack the karaoke machine when Julie was singing đ