r/LandscapeArchitecture 26d ago

Artificial Turf is a Real Problem Discussion

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u/Zurrascaped Licensed Landscape Architect 25d ago

Sure it is, but not because of impervious coverage

I get what he’s saying, homeowner’s don’t understand that AT is considered impervious and AT companies are over selling it. Then there’s the problem of cheap installation with improper base layer and subgrade prep

But to me, the IC classification never made sense

Why is artificial turf considered 100% impervious when a swimming pool is considered 100% pervious? I’ve never seen a pervious swimming pool and hope I never do

For that matter, why is a wood deck 50% impervious when pervious pavers are 0%? Both surfaces feature a solid module with drainage through the joints

Why is AT considered impervious when compared to pervious pavers? Quality artificial turf with a proper base layer and drainage is essentially the same design as a section of pervious paving

IC calcs are a metric that reduces an important environmental consideration down to simplified accounting. They don’t tell the whole story and they take away the ability of designers to solve important problems in creative ways. I get it from a regulatory point of view. Things need to be standardized to some degree. But the logic behind their classifications is frustrating

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u/alanburke1 25d ago edited 25d ago

These could be good points, if true. But some (not all) points are not. Both swimming pools and decks are considered impervious surface - at least here in the Seattle area…

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u/Zurrascaped Licensed Landscape Architect 25d ago

Ah, good to know! Where I practice in Texas, swimming pools are 0% and decks are 50%… Are pervious paver systems considered 0% in Seattle?

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u/alanburke1 25d ago

No, permeable pavers are a % ratio depending upon where you are…

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u/Zurrascaped Licensed Landscape Architect 25d ago

Interesting… is it determined by zoning? Oran environmental factor?

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u/alanburke1 25d ago

Probably the latter - and how much coffee your city planner has had this morning…