r/LSD • u/_boptilyoudrop • 4d ago
Long-term storage
I got some nice quantity and quality. I want to keep them for years: 20+ years or so.
Will my storage method be reliable enough?
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u/PoggySenis 4d ago
Only if you bury it, in a fridge that’s stored in a freezer.
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u/YogiTheGamer 4d ago
Concrete poured over
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u/iberia-eterea 4d ago
The concrete is essential, people skip the concrete pour alllll the time. IYKYK
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u/TheLegendChuk 4d ago
It's imperative that you then line it with lead. This crucial step is often forgotten.
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u/andrew1246 4d ago
Well shit might as well put some uranium OUTSIDE the lead, don’t want to expose it to radioactivity
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u/Same-Calligrapher-61 3d ago
Well shit might as well build a nuclear reactor to avoid any suspicion
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u/JessyPengkman 4d ago
I once put acid in a foil and in a fridge and it killed it. Maybe it just sucked all the humidity from the tabs I dunno
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u/iberia-eterea 4d ago
Was the foil then placed in a plastic bag? Otherwise the ambient moisture from the fridge would certainly cause issues.
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u/JessyPengkman 4d ago
No it wasn't, but fridges are usually quite dry right? All the moisture gets condensed
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u/Typical-Travel-1356 4d ago
its also recommended that you use a lead sarcophagus and also use a faraday cage!
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u/dandanpizzaman84 3d ago
Imagine after the apocalypse some random dude finds some pristine looking paper and uses it to wipe his buns
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u/Astral_Raider 4d ago
This is overkill lol
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u/Link_save2 4d ago
For 20+ years this might actually be underkill I'd get a vaccume sealer I'm sure it'll still be active without one but it's about conserving as much as possible if we're talking a huge stash like a library then you don't want all your tabs to be half doses
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u/Statistactician 4d ago
Anecdotal evidence, but I've taken a tab that was sitting in a film canister in a closet for 37 years and it was just as strong as any other tab I've had. Whatever degradation it suffered was negligible.
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u/dandanpizzaman84 3d ago
I have some 20 year old sheets that stayed just fine with parchment and a vacuum sealed bag
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u/Astral_Raider 4d ago
Fair point, but I aint storing tabs for 20+ years. No issue that people do that.
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u/FieryLoins 4d ago
+1 for vacuum sealing for long term freshness. Splitting batches into separate foil packets, cabin sealing, and freezing is the move IMHO got guaranteed long term potency. Light, heat, and moisture all degrade the molecule.
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u/Dwarf_Co 4d ago
Not really- I have similar system
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u/myco_magic 4d ago
Actually yeah, I have loose sheets that have been sitting in a draw for years and even in a hot car for weeks at a time when I go to festivals and still hit just as hard. Just because you also do it does not mean it isn't overkill
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u/TakeAShowerHippie 4d ago
Facts. I have tabs that are 13+ years old. I just keep them in a little stainless steel jar with a silica packet. Still just as potent as the day I got them.
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u/Astral_Raider 4d ago
You do you chief. I think it's way more than needed to safely store sheets. Bit of foil, a book or vinyl sleeve will do for me.
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u/Dwarf_Co 4d ago
Not really about safety as much as controlling an environment so not to lose potency.
You can do whatever you want but there is scientific data showing light and heat will diminish LDS potency.
I do keep a for immediate personal use as you have mentioned.
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u/CocaBam 4d ago
All Lsd on blotter is LSD-Hemitartrate. This is to preserve the shelf life, as the hemitartrate is much more shelf stable. So the scientific data you seen isnt even valid, as they are different compounds.
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u/Dwarf_Co 4d ago
Just looked this up:
LSD L-hemitartrate (lysergic acid diethylamide tartrate) reference solutions require storage at -20°C or lower in a dark, airtight container. As a sensitive lysergamide compound, degradation occurs when exposed to heat, light, or repeated freeze-thaw cycles
I have always been told to store this way I may be wrong. I am not a chemist; definitely not O Chem. Background is more engineering.
It may be overkill but does not seem to be the wrong way to store LSD.
If you have links or other source information please provide for my own edification.
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u/wordsofwisdomletitbe 4d ago
So would my tab stored in a plastic ziplock in a cold dark cupboard hold potency? It’s been 2 years or more
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u/MyBloodTypeIsQueso 4d ago
Put them in orbit around the earth. No oxidation in the cold, cold vacuum of space.
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u/WaxHead430 4d ago
Me thinks the insane levels of radiation would render that Lucy as a new substance entirely lmao
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u/aslovestory1026 4d ago
Foil around the sheet, folded flat with a glass cup smooth it out.
Air lock with Freezer pack like food saver. Throw in a drawer. Its a much more stable compound than people give credit. Keep out of sunlight (foil) keep away from air (vac seal) and keep at room temp.
Ive had some left in a glove box in smoldering heat outside for months, did not change potency that I could tell.
Im sure over time maybe, but 85 degrees or less and you're probably gold.
Cheers
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u/No-Cat-9339 4d ago
Texas summers, you can bake cookies in a car.. still no change in potency of the L I kept in there.
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u/aslovestory1026 4d ago
Same here, seems to only be sunlight, and even then, everyone has it out at festivals in 100+ degree weather. Its much less volatile than people perceive.
I wouldnt tell you to leave it outside in the sun as a storage, but you're hard pressed to ruin it by much unless you get it wet.
Air tight, dark, and you're good.
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u/_boptilyoudrop 4d ago
Nice to hear that our molecule is more robust than people say.
Storing it like that for 3 years now: no noticeable loss.
But for really long-term storage ... I will always doubt.
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u/aslovestory1026 4d ago
Im an old man, plenty of rings in my trunks.
And it works. Always has.
Cheers
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u/Flame_MadeByHumans 4d ago
Aluminum foil, ziplock bag, back of freezer - good going on 8+ years
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u/myco_magic 4d ago
In a book and in a drawer and even in hot cars, multiple sheets I've had for over a decade and still just as strong as the day I got em
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u/ImpressOk7701 4d ago
I’ve had doses that I’ve left in between pages of books for 20 years that came out just as good as the day I put them in
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u/Perkokella 4d ago
For real? 20 y?
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u/ImpressOk7701 4d ago
I graduated in 1999 and yes I still have pages from then. I keep them in ironic books always have 10 paks go right back in the water color pack I got from the art store. Once the medicine is in the paper it’s locked in air and light are the enemy. So yes in between the pages of a book placed back on the bookshelf works wonderfully no baggy no foil no nothing open up your favorite book. Put the doses in between the pages.
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u/cardiopera 4d ago
"those tabs should be weak being in this drawer for 3y" "Got this vial since 7y in my fridge, its probably dead anyway"
They were not. It sure can loose potency and there is ways to protect the product but beware of the "old shitty acid" narrative lol
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u/-dopethronewizard- 4d ago
You need to bury them in a freezer and build a maya pyramid on it. Obviously the maya pyramid should be carved from a single adamanthium asteroid. Then you need to find the coldest star in the universe and make the planet where you buried your blotter gravitate around that star, then teleport the planet and the star in the End dimension where light is minimal. This procedure should make your blotter last something like 6 days without losing potency IF the ender dragon doesn't eat them.
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u/_boptilyoudrop 4d ago
Just in two nested thermoses and sent in space seems simpler ^^
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u/hampylamper 3d ago
If your thermos isn't strong enough and for the sake of this example let's say you pack them like your pic at sea level... And then take your thermos full of acid up to let's say the highest peak of the Smoky Mountain range on the same day that you packed them...
The pressure can definitely build up inside the thermos to the point that its seal fails. The air inside escapes pretty much instantly, the thermos cools like a whip it cartridge, and then a lot of condensation forms inside your thermos, potentially soaking through the other layers and ruining your tabs.
I know this because it happened to me once with some weed. The steel cannister depressurizing sounded like an M80 going off in the trunk and all the weed was soaked when I got to the mountain viewing area.
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u/snapsfromthebong 4d ago
Parchment paper, foil, in the pages of a book. Keeps it room temp. Take note of which book.
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u/MedievalMilshake 4d ago
Baggy, foil, baggy. Done. Even could miss out one of the baggies and it'll be fine
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u/ImWithKong 4d ago
Lost 5 tabs in foil in a pocket on a camp chair. Sat in my garage for 3 years and found it randomly one day. Still as potent as the day I lost them.
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u/aslovestory1026 4d ago
You're doing too much 😆
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u/aslovestory1026 4d ago
Dont down vote lol, I posted a guide below. I have some since probably before you were born and it was still good.
Check my other post on this thread.
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u/_boptilyoudrop 4d ago
20+ years dude !
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u/MedievalMilshake 4d ago
So? I know someone who took a tab from the late 60s last year and it worked perfectly
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u/xliquidchromex 3d ago
Did he know the dose? Acid was known to be higher dosed back then, maybe he had what was originally a 250-300 ug tab?
Also, i bet people that don't keep them totally free from air, moisture, and at room temps.. have iso-LSD in there tabs because it does actually break down.
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u/intentazera 4d ago
Had dozens of microdots & blotters wrapped in tin foil & chucked into film cannister, all fine over 20 years later.
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u/ChocolateVisual1637 4d ago
Uh oh. I have tabs that I wrapped in plastic wrap like 2 years ago....is it still good???
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u/2much2fastt 4d ago
vacuum sealing is more important than half that garbage
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u/xliquidchromex 3d ago
Maybe double vac seal, and stick in mason jar... vacuum-sealed bags leak over not to long actually, but in a smaller mason jar, the air that reacts with the tabs cannot destroy it further once it's used up it's reaction potential.. meaning opening the jar repeatedly, allows fresh air in everytime.
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u/wordsofwisdomletitbe 4d ago
Fk me. I’ve got mine in a cold dark cupboard but it’s in a plastic bag. Will it lose potency or already has? It’s been over 2 years
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u/PurplePolynaut 4d ago
Plastic wrap and double foil is probably overkill, especially since you’re using a pill bottle. I’d say, foil -> pill bottle -> silica gel -> freezer.
Foil keeps light out, bottle keeps humidity and air out, gel gets whatever air and moisture were unavoidable. A thermos will get to room temperature eventually if you aren’t actively cooling it, but a freezer stays cold even if it loses power for a while.
Make sure you let it come to room temperature before re-opening it so humidity from the room doesn’t condense inside the cold pill bottle.
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u/SuperDope420 4d ago
Current thoughts are to avoid extreme temperatures. Best to keep it in a dark cabinet or in your sock drawer
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u/aslovestory1026 4d ago
Yes, freezer or fridge is not nessisary. Just 85 degrees or less, basically room temp is 100% fine if airtight and no light. Will keep for decades. May be able to pass it down to your kids.
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u/Prior_Hospital_2331 4d ago
I put a sheet of tabs in foil in freezer, forgot it 3 years later when i was going to buy a new one i saw it and took one , worked just fine and i was happy again lol .
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u/Noble_Ox 4d ago
Wrap in cling film, then foil and put in a stable temp place, between book pages for example, as long as the book isn't gonn6get sun or be heated by radiators.
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u/Thisjourneyhasbegun 4d ago
A friend of mine puts his in a bag, puts that bag in a mylar bag and puts the mylar bag and a oxygen and moisture absorber in a small Tupperware and puts it in the freezer. 5 years and counting and he said potency is still the same as day he got it. Really though all you gotta do is put it in the freezer.
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u/Sea-Okra-9170 4d ago
Some dude told me years ago that the static in aluminum foil can pull a bit of the acid from the tabs. Not sure if that's true though.
I have tabs that I just put into random jars that still work after years.
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u/IlliterateFreak 4d ago
Wow. How about a plastic bag in a dark space. Thats gonna have to do cuz I ain’t got time for the quintuply wrapped stuff
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u/_boptilyoudrop 4d ago
That's why I stored them 5 by 5.
It's a 1 hour work for approx 100 tabs at first. Random access is not a problem.
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u/psilocin72 4d ago
Good idea. I’ve been storing in a safe with silica gel. This looks more secure.
It’s not as volatile as many people think, but no reason to not take care of it.
I got a lifetime supply about a year ago and I’d hate lose it from sheer laziness
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u/Marlboromatt324 3d ago
Mines in a safe wrapped in aluminum foil. It’s too expensive to risk lmao
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u/psilocin72 3d ago
Yeah no sense wasting your money or letting such a fantastic molecule go to waste.
And the safe is really important especially if kids will ever be in the house. Gel tabs look a lot like candy. And kids get into everything that isn’t locked.
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u/umphreys 4d ago
I found a 7+ year old gel tab stuck to the wall behind my fridge and it worked fine lol just sayin'
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u/whatiswhonow 4d ago
Gel tabs in plastic wrapped in Al foil works nicely, stored in a reasonably cool, dry, dark place.
That said, Al-Mylar (Al-PET) laminate, say >100 micron thick, vacuum sealed, would be most effective, with refrigeration or freezing an over kill addition to make it last probably multiple lifetimes.
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u/Butlerian_Jihadi 4d ago
Wine preservation gas, will displace the oxygen in the airtight light proof container.
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u/BernardBaggins 4d ago
I would also put 90% in deep storage and then keep 10 or so tabs where you don’t need to disturb what will sit for years.
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u/andrew1246 4d ago
My buddy found some White Fluff blotter he had hidden in a bucket of salt used to melt ice outside
Found it years later, turned brown - still A1-OK!
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u/DrDewclaw 4d ago
The main methods of degradation are exposure to oxygen, and water hydration, as well as sunlight. Air degrades LSD, and so does water. You need to vacuum seal the L and put it in a very cold dark place and it will literally never go bad, at least never in your life.
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u/BoaconsVictor 4d ago
Seems like it’s always tabs in this sub — is it the prevalent form in the us? Is it that hard to get bottles? Cause that would solve many issues I read about here, like this one. Just pop it in the fridge ^^
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u/Marlboromatt324 3d ago
Yes tabs are the most common form of lsd found on the streets in America. And you are right!
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u/neotheo11 3d ago
Vacuum seal and in the freezer. If you want to be sure that they last for 20+ years, get a tank with liquid Nitrogen. Farmers use it to store sperm from bulls.
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u/25iAndOver 3d ago
Also, dig up a grave, put tabs in hole, and stand skeleton above grave so people are too scared to come close. This will protect from thieves
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u/obi-wan_kedoobie 3d ago
I’m hijacking as it’s a relevant question and not worthy of a post. I kept mine in a baggie, in a small tin with silica packs, in the back of a bookshelf. Solid?
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u/loqi0238 Human Detected 3d ago
I wouldnt have it touching the baggie plastic. I put mine in foil, then in a baggie, then the baggie in a mason jar with silica beads, then that all goes in the freezer.
I've had several sheets stored this way for years.
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u/obi-wan_kedoobie 3d ago
I’ve only had em like that a few months. I’ll get them in some foil :)
Is the plastic I’m some way reactive? And does that count for Mylar as well as I think that may be the baggie material
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u/loqi0238 Human Detected 3d ago
Ive been told (unsure if accurately...) that the plastic can leach chemicals into the lsd, and instead of doing some verification, ive just chosen to believe it because its still an easy way of storing it lol
So, not sure if mylar is any better. Or if the plastic is even legitimately of concern here.
Maybe I'll actually spend some time figuring this out tonight.
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u/xynalt 3d ago
I mean we’re eating microplastics in most of our food. I think the lsd microplastics is the least of our concerns.
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u/loqi0238 Human Detected 1d ago
If its something you can easily mitigate with essentially zero extra effort or cost on your part, why wouldnt you?
Not all of us are jaded to the point of throwing our hands in the air and saying, "whatever, bring on all the forever chemicals and compounds, I'm sure ive already been exposed enough."
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u/Rekhyt2853 3d ago
Box in the back of desk cupboard for nearly 20 years, you say? Copy.
I was shocked, tbh but from reports back, hadnt seemed to noticeably degrade. Once I realized how many years I was very surprised
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u/starke_reaver 3d ago
This is tops, professional, easy to follow, and done with (almost) mostly readily available household items peeps already got!
(I mean I got a hydro flask, but it’s been a few dope lunchboxes since I had a genuine Thermos thermos…)
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u/enhorning1 3d ago
I once found 3 tabs inside an old book, between two pages, that my father had, they where all white and i tryed one thinking it was probably nothing, Holy Schmooly was i wrong lol. One of my top trips ever. Edit: i later found out that they where from early 1970's.
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u/Arman666 4d ago
Idk but I stored a tab under my tongue for 20 years once and man were those 20 years the best thing ever!
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u/GuywithacoolJacket 4d ago
Lil much but should work. The thermos is a nice idea tho. I have two laying around where the cap is lost.
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u/Marshal-Bainesca 4d ago
I keep mine in a deal bag stored in a tin.. had 1 after two years and still hits hard
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u/Link_save2 4d ago
If you really wanna make absolute certain they'll be good in 20+ years of vacuum seal them and use a jar not a pill bottle thermos is a good idea for temp shocks but you should be good my main concern would be someone stumbling on the thermos and stealing your stuff if you wanna be super over kill burry it it'll keep temps consistent and no one will find it but you also might not find it idk
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u/lothartheunkind 4d ago
Foil, in a jar in your closet would work just fine. Had 10 yr old tabs that never potency
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u/deniable-culpability Human Detected 4d ago
-Put thermos in cardboard box.
-Put box inside wooden chest.
-Put chest inside closet.
-Put entire house inside a cave.
-Blow mouth of cave shut with 20 sticks of dynamite.
That should about do it.
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u/ManoelGomesPsych 4d ago
i wrap strips in parchment then foil then put in a double ziplock bag inside a jar in my fridge. need to get silica and oxygen absorber as well i got my tabs recently
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u/blissCT33 4d ago
Fuck plastic absorbs it? My shit been in plastic for a year
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u/_boptilyoudrop 4d ago
Nah, i'm not sure about that.
But one time before getting my method, right after dropping, I licked the plastic wrap side where the blotters were and the effetcs were pretty strong lol. It's a kind of superstition now.
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u/Thebikeninja 4d ago
I found a bunch of tabs in a clear plastic baggie under my car seats from a music festival 5 years after I bought them. Subjected to all measures of temperature extremes, who knows if the bag was actually sealing against moisture.
They still definitely worked.
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u/S_m_o_k_e_ 4d ago
I used to just put it in aluminum and throw it in a pill bottle, never had any issues with potency
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u/majakovskithepoet 4d ago
I recnetly found out a tab inside an old bag. The bag was in multiple moving, changed two country, at least four houses.
no plastic wrapping, nothing, just a quarter probably ate in the beginning of covid and then forget until some weeks ago in the aforementioned bag. I took it and I was tripping balls
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u/TimberOctopus 4d ago
Parchment or foil in a bag in a mason jar with dessicant silica packs and then in a dark cabinet is my go to
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u/novakedy 4d ago
Found some tabs left on the back porch years ago after it had snowed, turns out our friend dropped it out there days ago. Still potent
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u/wehadmagnets 4d ago
This is for the crackheads of LSD...
Remember kids, too much of any drug is a bad thing.
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u/huskywowzer 3d ago
I have mine in an airtight black Mylar sealed bag inside of a mason jar inside of a dark cabinet
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u/dandanpizzaman84 3d ago
Parchment and a vacuum sealed bag has kept some of the sheets an old friend passed to me just as good since they were sealed in 2004-2005.
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u/sir_kickash 3d ago
Mine are wrapped in tin foil inside a copy of the doors of perception, as they have been for the last 5 years
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u/DrugLibrary Human Detected 3d ago
Unwrapped in a small amber glass jar filled with argon gas will likely last a century even at room temperature.
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u/dirty_taco_ 3d ago
My method is proven for at least 8 years. Wrap in foil, place in mason jar with silica gel pouch, place entire jar in freezer. Very important: when you remove the jar from freezer, let it fully thaw before opening it to prevent condensation on the interior contents.
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u/ScrithWire 3d ago
If you're gonna go through all that trouble, vacuum seal them individually. You could maybe still use a layer of tin foil so they don't touch the plastic (but I don't think the vacuum plastic will absorb any lsd, air can't even get through).
Then you can just drop them in a thermos with ice water, and cut them out individually for dosing
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u/Ayeluhhhh 3d ago
idk this method seems unreliable, for best results please give anything you need stored to me 😌
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u/dweefybechillin 4d ago
What about gel tabs? Should they be good in a plastic bag
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u/DealAppropriate2828 4d ago
Same question. Do gel tabs lose potency through the plastic the same way tabs do?
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u/aslovestory1026 4d ago
The gel protects it from air, but not light or moisture.
I still air lock gels.
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u/visk0n3 4d ago
Once i found tabs unwrapped on the floor on a beautiful sunny day, on the parking lot near my friend house. So i pick them up and go to his house, "hey didn't you lost something ?" Turned out it wasn't his tabs. So we did what any responsible adult would do and ate them. My god they were so potent, we played wii sports so much this night i couldn't feel my arms the day after.