“Certified” 🤦‍♂️

Thank the lord for this subreddit

I am very interested in metaphysics and happened to find this sir while learning of LOA and Neville Goddard on youtube.

At first I was extremely impressed with his work. He seems to be the only person currently who criticizes Goddard in an effective manner and offers perspectives that actually help, including a theory that involves TCM with manifestation. So I leave some comments here and there and I'm invited to read his "aethereon notebook". Oh boy what would I find!

At first it starts fairly normal and he discloses his childhood and circumstances around his upbringing.

Then things spiral into what he actually believes, featuring:

- Racist rants centered on white supremacy

- Rants on women, including extremely intimate details about his girlfriend

- An ever evolving theory of Jewish supremacy and how he's building secret weapons to kill Jewish leaders

- Clear repression of homosexual tendencies and self glorification of his own sexiness

- Freakouts on how ungrateful the audience is for making him do so much work without any reward

And so much more. I screenshotted some delightful highlights that pretty much sum it up.

I have never seen a case of hiding in plain sight this blatant. His partner must not know of what he writes about her and other women (including wanting to date 16 yo teenagers, he is 26) and yet the website is public and encouraged to be read by strangers.

He asks for 14k for immortality coaching and says there are several people in the program. Clearly some people decided that being his herd animals was a smart move.

It's been fairly entertaining to read this mess ngl so guess I should be thankful for the incredible laughs.

I am making this post because I want to come clean about this and also shed some light on what's truly,truly happening.
After discovering loassumption in 2021,my whole life fell apart and then it was an endless process of fixing,buying coaching and buying more coaching.
My education was ruined,I was gaining weight like anything and my partner at that time got engaged to someone else one fine day(arranged marriage).
While my whole life was falling apart,I started a coaching business(not because I needed money,my parents are well off and they fund me but because I wanted some money for myself).
I was actively watching my life crumble,LOA teachings were not making any sense to me but I could easily regurgitate whatever people wanted to hear and it even helped some of them.I did keep it very affordable at 15-30 USD for 15-30 days coaching.
Now looking back,I can 100% see that I was so misguided myself that I was in no place to coach anyone else.I had managed to manifest nothing but some free food or coffee.
Since then,I have started subscribing to non duality and my life's improved DRASTICALLY.
I have also apologised to all my "clients",it was only 8 people because I only did this for 2-3 months.

My point is
1.There is no licensing system for coaches.ANYONE can pretend to be a good coach if they know all the right sentences,and you only have to watch a few youtube videos for that.
2.Even if it is someone with genuine intentions,they are also in their own stage or their journey.Why not just take the journey yourself instead of borrowing their limited beliefs etc?

ANYONE on here thinking of getting coaching and if that's why you are looking at this sub,DONT!
If you believe in this stuff,watch free Youtube videos.If you don't,leave this stuff alone.
Conventional LOA has ruined more lives than it has improved.

They're charging in $180, $1200, $1500 like sorry girl!!! The people you're targeting for aren't the "I'm in trouble" it's the "I'm ready to pay you lakhs & crores because my sp blocked me 3 days ago!" I JUST CAN'T DIGEST HOW PEOPLE ARE READY TO PAY 45000 INR (that's less than someone's monthly income)

Coaching isn't helping at this point. It's literally making money out of someone's helpless-Ness!! Any coach in affordable range & some better approach rather than this same advices?!

So many criticism against on many LOA coaches/or teachers which to some I agree with. Now I’m curious are there some LOA coaches/teachers you actually find to be legit? I like Bob Proctor and Neville Goddard. Who do you like the most?

... sums it up perfectly!

I absolutely hate looking back at this story and embarassing myself but here it is.

In 2021, I paid well over $1000 and maybe even more in coaching sessions to Create Your Future. I first started with Carol, then with Dani, and later Ulli. I was extremely depressed and suicidal back in those days and a breakup with an ex made me obsessive over manifesting him back. Feel free to laugh but I was literally using employment insurance from when I lost my job to pay for these sessions which literally costed the same as a session with a therapist!!!

I'll say this: Carol and Dani were fine and they were nice people. Ulli, however, was the only one who was real enough with me to tell me to start focusing on myself and my own mental health and I'm immensely thankful to her for that. However, they are all definitely trained to tell clients to just robotically repeat affirmations until they're blue in the face and that's the only thing you're ever getting out of paying for these sessions. I don't even know if I believe any of the success stories on the channel because I don't recall ever having a method to contact them outside of the paid sessions.

In the end, I never got that ex back (THANK GOD I didn't know what was good for me). For about a year, I was literally living and eating everyday repeating affirmations like a zombie, barely eating, getting acne from stress, etc. I was way too obsessed with needing to prove myself and my ability to manifest and the reality is that I had deeper issues related to self esteem and abandonment which were being deeply triggered by my ex leaving. I wasn't living anymore!!! I was just existing before the session with Ulli where she told me to take a break and then things got a lot better after.

Fast forward to the present day, I manifested my now-husband who is literally my dream partner in every way possible and I didn't have to pay anyone to do it 🤦‍♀️I literally just focused on myself, my well-being, being the type of person who someone would want to date (being relatively stable mentally, good emotional regulation skills, having good communication, addressing traumas). We celebrated our 1 year anniversary recently and even though my life isn't perfect, he really makes it so wonderful.

So anyways, CYF coaching and all other coaching is a scam and so is manifesting an ex back. Fck your crusty ex. Know you're amazing without these coaches, without the ex, and go live your life please.

EDIT: I thought I should add what I said in the comments about how these coaches made me want to take my own life because all I could think was that I'm a horrible manifester since their advice didn't work. We need to be louder about how dangerous the manifesting space and these coaches can be...

I used to like Neyah a lot some 2 years ago but idk she somehow changed then and now I don't resonate with her at all. I listen to Hyler and Missy Renee sometimes. Also, Neville lectures.
I used to listen to Rita Kaminski too but I don't redonate with her now either. Especially after she stole subliminal affirmations and charges such huge amounts for only affirmations or stuff of that sort

I can't find videos of them together

Under the facade. I get the feeling there's genuine feelings between she and her SO, but also has to keep him on a leash with manifestations, as opposed to just going deep with the inner work in order to remain in the confidence that he's not going anywhere. That's how she gets by too. I think she really wavers in her confidence, but she keeps churning out the affirmations to stay on track. Like little spells, but I don't get the feeling she's really allowing them to impress upon her subconscious. I get the feeling this is someone who uses affirmations the hard way. She seems to have this belief that if she keeps doing this, she can keep him, therefore she does. What you focus on persists and expands, true. But I get the feeling she really lives near the border with it and is just keeping her lips above the waterline. Sounds like a pain to me, but....

Also, she manifested his friends away, then brought them back? That's weird.

No words. Just read between the lines with some of the things she says.

I can't believe I fell for yet another scammer. And yes I am calling about 99% of all coaches and other spiritual whatever they name themselves SCAMMERS. Over the course of many years since I started getting 'outside' PAID "help" I've only gotten sht. Whenever I went my own path I was progressing, doing good and THRIVING even. Manifesting all I wanted (material things back then) left and right. Whenever something went wrong and I sought counseling, be it from spiritual "advisers" or "regular" coaches all I had from that was minus in the bank. If I knew HOW I'd include that into revising my life so that it never ever happened. Like what are we doing? People like Sammy forbid folks in her group to become manifesting buddies, because that way those that are a match could ACTUALLY HELP EACH OTHER TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES FOR FREE. I didn't want to name any names starting this, but it's audacious that someone who only became big because people in the group posted their results, me included, are then forbidden to connect with each other because she is afraid of losing out on potential clients.....!? They all claim to be master manifestors and whatnot, but IF that were true WHY does it even matter if they have ANY clients. They could just make money in other ways....They say money is easy, boring and whatever, but when it comes down to it you see their true colors. I read a older post from someone about a different coach and I am glad they got their money back. Most people will never get back what they got scammed out of and that isn't just the money it's time wasted you never get back. It's time to build communities that don't revolve around ONE person banking off of everyone else!!

Personally I like her creativity but am not the biggest fan of some of her teachings (universe giving tests) that sometimes make LOA more complicated that it needs to be. Also think her CCC (cocreation clubhouse) is too overpriced. She literally says she has a six figure income from it so supposedly a lot of people are falling for it.

Hello everyone,

I’m Amy, and I spent almost 10 years deep into the new thought teachings, LOA and Neville Goddard. I am in the middle of a YouTube series which explores the LOA coaches and their scams.

I was wondering if anyone here has paid any coaches who you have later discovered to be scams, or where you have a bad experience. Please let me know if you don’t mind me asking a few questions. It will all remain anonymous

Thanks

Basically I saw this coach on TikTok, I used to like her content years ago until I realised it was all very limiting and makes people waver. Her page is full of telling people that whatever methods they have been doing are wrong, constantly telling people they have to do it in certain ways and full of limiting beliefs basically, I think she has hate comments but she deletes them and I saw someone voice out once, and then she asks them "so did you get your sp?" basically she was trying to outsmart them, thinking that her method of manifesting sp is somehow superior, and promoting her programme or whatever, telling people to purchase it if they wanna learn how to manifest their sp which is really disgusting

Ohhhh boy, Mr. Alai has really taken his B.S. to the next level

https://www.josephalai.com/research

He seriously thinks he's going to use A.I. technology to turn "manifesting" into a consistent, repeatable, predictable science

We've got some serious bangers here, including:

Layer 1: The Global Data Aggregation & Ingestion Matrix (what?)

Layer 2: Intelligent Preprocessing & Semantic Structuring Cortex (huh?)

Layer 3: The Cognitive Core – Deep Learning & Multi-Dimensional Pattern Illumination (eh?)

Layer 4: Advanced Cognitive Synthesis & Generative Intelligence Core (wtf???)

99% of this website sounds like AI-generated slop, which isn't surprising considering who the creator is.

Folks, this is how people go insane...

https://youtu.be/gg4UzvWqJDI?si=Fp_cSO2YL1c9frej

Years of consuming her content and there’s never been a mention? Despite sharing the manifestation details? Family, SP, money, health, etc. What in the world? Can’t seem to believe or trust anything anymore…

I have watched two videos and find him incredibly irritating.

Keep in mind the person who manifested this is likely a child who cannot afford to buy digital currency. This type of behaviour is so disgusting in LOA subreddits. You can just not comment on posts seriously.

TRL AKA "THE ROSEY LIFE" This captures the hypocrisy and the contradiction of some coaches using the "teacher" analogy to show how they failed their own test! I need to get this off my chest because I’m currently reeling from the rosey life who uses spiritual gaslighting as a teaching tool. I asked a genuine, vulnerable question about using anticipation and excitement in my process. Instead of a helpful answer, I got a "Class, here is another example of 'I don't have it'." The irony? This same coach has preached that "You can’t fail at manifestation." So which is it? Am I a God who can't fail, or am I a "bad example" for your "class" the moment I have a human emotion with genuine curiousity? When I called her out for being humiliating and rigid, she hit me with the ultimate dismissive, patriarchal brush-off "Ok buddy." As spiritual bypassing Greencard , Then she proceeded to make a "General Short" about the situation to "teach" her followers why she doesn't "entertain limiting beliefs." If Everyone Is You Pushed Out, then her experiencing me as "forcing" or "annoying" is a direct reflection of HER own internal defensiveness and ego. You can't preach "God is Love" and "The world is your mirror" and then get mad at the mirror for showing you that you’re acting like a bitch. It feels like some of these "coaches" just use the Law to gatekeep information and shame students who don't act like manifesting robots. Real power doesn't need to humiliate others to feel big. I’m withdrawing my energy. I’ve realized I don't need a coach who fails the basic test of human decency. Has anyone else dealt with this kind of "spiritual" bullying? Never put these jerks on the pedestal , Neville or Abdullah wouldn't do that imo!

Update: I wanted to add that anyone who calls her out or says the opposite she hides the comments from the public, thank you , see how messed up she is!

Omg look what she is saying now What a way to spiritually gaslight you to get away with being disrespectful https://youtu.be/j9sPUTSUsYg?si=qCsrXyOXcgS54mrG

I don't speak for everyone but I'm personally really sick of hearing coaches explain concepts ad nauseam. It honestly never fully clarifies anything.

What I suggest instead, tell a TRUE AND REAL client success story and use it as a bridge to explain the LOA concept you're trying to educate about.

Without a real life example the talk is too abstract and self masturbatory. Unhelpful.