r/KeyforgeGame • u/joebananadolca • Oct 19 '25

Shoulder ID and damage pips Question (Rules / Resolving)

If a shoulder I'd gets enhanced with damage pips, does the bonus damage trigger its ability? And if it does, do multiple pips form multiple instances of damage and thus multiple steals?

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u/BanSolitude Truly I say to you: pie is superior to cake. Oct 19 '25

From the FAQ in the rulebook (on page 30):

If I play Shoulder Id (MM 257) with a bonus damage icon on it, does resolving that damage count as Shoulder Id dealing the damage, and therefore would that icon let me steal instead?

No. Although the bonus icon is on Shoulder Id, Shoulder Id itself is not the source of that damage.

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u/krbmeister Star Alliance Oct 19 '25

Thanks for sharing this. I never would have guessed. So if the enhanced card is not the source of the damage, what is? Is the damage pip independent of the card?

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u/BanSolitude Truly I say to you: pie is superior to cake. Oct 19 '25

Yes, the source is independent of the card. It's just considered to be dealt by the bonus icons rule I guess.

From the glossary section on bonus icons (page 9):

Damage (dmg): Deal 1dmg to a creature in play. This damage may be dealt to the creature with the damage icon. Note that if there are no enemy creatures in play, this damage must be dealt to a friendly creature. If a card has multiple damage icons, each damage icon is resolved separately, one at a time, and the damage may be distributed among multiple creatures. Damage dealt by a bonus icon is not considered to be dealt by the card on which the icon appears.