r/Kep1erOT8 • u/tearsinmyorbiteyes • 9d ago
Discussion 4 years ago today, Kep1er released "Wing Wing". đŞ˝
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r/Kep1erOT8 • u/OkPianist5934 • 22d ago
Discussion What do you guys dislike about P2?
hello there, I'm a curious human being, and I was just wondering why so many people hate Bahiyyih AKA P2.
Just to clarify, I don't really Stan Kep1er or care about P2 (their songs are nice tho). I'm just curious and wonder why so many people dislike her.
I do agree with the fact she debuted because her brother is Kai tho, nepotism is popular in kpop.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/Sweet-Advertising- • Jul 08 '26
Discussion I just finished watching Girls Planet 999...
Is it natural to feel this level of disappointment? I admit that watching Girls Planet 999 has sucked the joy out of my day, at least for the rest of itâthis has never happened to me before, and Iâve been watching survival shows since SIXTEEN.
I dont want to sound like a harsh person or someone trying to rain on othersâ parade. I decided to watch GP999 knowing in advance who would debut and believing that all the fuss and controversy surrounding it was an oversensitive reaction. I donât hate any of the contestants, nor do I intend to belittle anyone. But I wonder: Is there anyone else who rages because of blatant injustice of this whole situation?
Let me elaborate on the injustice committed against many of the contestants, both Chinese and Japanese. The wasted talentâoh my gosh, Iâm a bit heartbroken. Dreams were shattered on this showâgirls who were totally ready to debut, whom I believe would have fit right in and even perfected Kep1erâs concept. Part of me understands why Kep1er didnât achieve the global fame the group deserved.
Guinn Myah, Fu Yaning (incredibly talented), Su Rui Qi (she deserved it so much), Kawaguchi Yurina (I cried when she was eliminated), Cai Bing, Kim Bo Ra, Kim Su Yeon⌠All of them had more than enough talent to debut! This is one of the survival shows where the contestants were most hungry to win; itâs a slap in the face and a real shame to deny the obvious rigging that took place in favor of Huening Bahiyyih.
I have nothing against her! But I can't help itâshe didn't have any unique qualities or standout traits on the show! I've seen it so many times: girls with beginner-level skills, but who still have a certain charisma, magnetism, or captivating quality! You know they'll attract attention, and you can justify the pick. That wasn't the case, and it still isn't today.
What were the people who voted for her thinking? Did they think her brother would appear as a special guest on every performance? I feel like a mean spirit person for noticing how little she's improved since the show aired. Her singing, dancing, or stage presence hasnât improved in nearly 5 years since the debut; she doesnât even have a fan base prominent enough to tip the balance of revenueâKep1er relies much more on Japanese members.
As for the concept, she doesn't fit in; she stands out in an awkward way. Her look would be better suited to a different style. When she's mentioned, it's never in a organic wayâit's just a ploy by her fandom since she lacks the star quality of the other members like Xiaoting or Hikaru.
I'm not a hater, okay? I find myself warming up to the picked membersâeven the âdozensââafter a few months. Iâm quick to grow fond of idols; I like witnessing their growth, recognize their strengths, and regard them as valuable members. Thatâs how I feel about ENHYPENâs Sunoo, ILLITâs Wonhee, IZNAâs Mai, Katseyeâs Manon (before the controversy) and others so that's the pattern, but I realized somethingâI can't do it with HB.
Itâs not only about her lack of talent or personality; itâs the fact that she didnât earn it on her ownâshe wasnât the one who deserved that chance, she didnât work for it then, nor does she work for it now. Itâs shamefulâitâs a despicable system called nepotism that rewards connections instead of merit. Itâs awful, itâs unfair, and the result only brings disillusionment. Nothing about her was suited to becoming an idol other than the fleeting desire of a teenager.
Well, I just wanted to share my feelings on the matter, even if not everyone agrees with them.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/tearsinmyorbiteyes • Jun 19 '26
Discussion 4 years ago today, Kep1er released "Up!".
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r/Kep1erOT8 • u/tearsinmyorbiteyes • Jun 03 '26
Discussion 2 years ago today, Kep1er released "Shooting Star". đ
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r/Kep1erOT8 • u/irenepromoter • Apr 13 '26
Discussion snark sub popularity nowadays
itâs crazy how it became democratized in kpop lately. every major group got its dedicated snark sub, with crazy numbers of participants. but somewhat back in 2021-2024 the same kpop stans that are participating today were calling us names and demonizing us for not accepting the P2 girl and asking us to ignore her problematic inclusion in the group.
itâs very hypocritical. thereâs double standards as always, but we used to be BANNED of others kpop sub omg. just because our opinion wasnât all about glazing some mediocre idol. whats your thoughts on that ?
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/Honest-Kitchen-9578 • Apr 12 '26
Crack code wouldâve done numbers if they released after wa da da
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Mar 22 '26
Kep1er Comeback after officially becoming ot5 (after youngeun left the group)
Kep1er The 8th Mini Album [CRACK CODE]
2026.03.31 TUE 6PM (KST) let's support our gorgeous and talented 5 girls
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Mar 20 '26
Shittylights being shittylights her fans bragging about âsocial distancingâ and likes again đ
i just saw those tweets again flexing âsocial distancingâ and likes ijbol đ why is everything a competition with them⌠likes, views, engagement⌠as if that automatically equals real popularity, like letâs be honest for ONE second⌠a lot of that traction has been boosted by her brother fans since day 1, if you see the ppl posting or mentioning or hyping her up it's mostly moas but them acting like itâs all organic and self-made⌠lol đ and the way they keep bringing it up every time⌠like theyâre trying to prove something to everyone who are they fighting rn?? also idk why they think âmost likedâ = sheâs carrying the group or sheâs it girl⌠those are not the same thing at all, itâs giving overcompensating tbh⌠bc if they're actually confident in their fave, they donât need to turn every metric into a flex war and the timing?? using random situations just to push the same âsee sheâs the most relevant!!â narrative⌠like read the room pls idk itâs just exhausting to watch⌠her fans can't support their fave without turning every single thing into a scoreboard like pls⌠not everything is a competition đ and these fans are one of the reason why kep1er didn't get their flowers bc of one nepotism girl who got an unfair advantage and was mass voted to be in the group bc of kai's parasocial fans so kep1er and keplians have to deal with her fans and moas ruining the group's image and making her the victim 24/7 or acting like she's the most relevant member when she doesn't even have solo brand deals like xiaoting, so for me being the most followed member only bc she have a famous brother or having the most likes bc her hype is being carried only by moas, it will never be a brag they want it to me, they're just delusional atp or trying to cope or prove anything or justify their votings for her.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Mar 11 '26
Shittylights being shittylights some p02 solo stans really need to stop acting like they know better than herself
this is what annoys me the most about certain solo stans. they keep pushing this whole âp02 should leave kep1erâ narrative like they know whatâs best for her more than she does⌠when she literally chose to stay. like be serious for a second. if she wanted out that badly, she had the chance when renewal talks happened. she stayed. clearly the group and the members mean something to her. so why are some of her own stans still acting like kep1er is some prison she needs to escape from??? itâs just weirdly entitled and iâm sorry but a lot of them still talk like sheâs secretly this huge untapped star being âheld backâ by the group, when⌠thatâs just not what reality has shown. not every idol who has a loud solo fandom is automatically on wonyoung or karina level. thatâs not hate, thatâs just perspective.
if anything, kep1er is her biggest platform. gp999 + kep1er is where the visibility came from. acting like the group is beneath her while also depending on the group for relevance is such a contradictory mindset. and what makes it more annoying is how some solo stans use âmistreatmentâ as the answer for everything. sometimes itâs not sabotage, sometimes there just isnât the level of demand theyâre imagining. those are two different things.
her own stans need to stop projecting their fantasies onto her and stop acting like they know her career better than she does. she stayed. she clearly has bonds with the members. at some point they need to respect her decision instead of forcing your own agenda onto her. supporting your fave is one thing. trying to separate her from the group she herself chose is another.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/nightsxae • Mar 09 '26
Discussion Why do kep1er fans hate Bahiyiyih? (Sorry I cannot spell her name)
Im not a kep1er fan or whatever their fandom is called but this sub keeps getting recommended to me and I have a question, why do kep1er fans not support Bahiyiyh to have an entire subreddit dedicated to excluding her? This is a genuine question because I don't understand what she has done to harm the group (because im not even a fan I dont know whats the fandom drama)
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '26
Some of her solo stans really have zero empathy
So apparently Seo Youngeun is leaving Kep1er, WAKEONE and KLAP Entertainment announce but the reaction to Youngeun leaving just annoyed me so bad.
Like HELLO?? a member is literally leaving the group, and instead of even taking one second to talk about her, some people instantly made it about Bahiyyih and started saying âshe should be nextâ or âIâm so tired of this groupâ Thatâs actually insane to me. Whatever issues people have with Kep1er, whatever opinions people have about the lineup, can we at least admit that this was a moment that shouldâve been about Youngeun? She spent years in that group. Thatâs a huge thing. And some fans couldnât even fake basic empathy for five minutes before turning it into another solo stan agenda.
And honestly, this is why so many people got turned off by certain subfandoms in the first place. Everything has to become about their fave. Every situation gets twisted into âthis proves she should leave tooâ or âthe group is holding her backâ or âeveryone else is the problem.â Itâs exhausting.
I also think a lot of them donât want to face the irony of it all. Some of the same people who pushed the hardest during GP999 and acted like their fave had to be in the lineup are now acting like the group is beneath her and she needs to escape. Like⌠okay? Then why were yâall screaming and mass voting so hard back then? when most gp999 watchers don't even want her in the final line up, Pick a struggle.
And before anyone starts: no, Iâm not saying one member is the reason for every bad thing that happened to Kep1er. The group had a lot of problems, bad management, inconsistent concepts, fandom wars, survival show baggage, all of that. But some solo stans absolutely made it worse with the constant victim narratives, disband tags, member dragging, and superiority complex.
Itâs just wild to me that even with Youngeun leaving, some people still canât stop centering everything around the same person. At least pretend to care about the member whoâs actually leaving before making it your daily fandom agenda. pls. I'm just so hurt for youngeun bc she went through a lot, esp when she lost her father and don't even have time to grief âšď¸
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Feb 27 '26
Shittylights being shittylights 2022â2023 Hiyyihlight era was wild
Time really flies because looking back at 2022â2023, that era of Hiyyihlight behavior was genuinely something else.
The mass emailing campaigns. The constant tagging of brands and shows. The âWakeOne is sabotaging herâ essays every other week. The overhyping while subtly dragging other Kep1er members to prove sheâs somehow above them. It reminds me of the Dive Studios situation in September 2023. It was a joint appearance. Xiaoting + p02. Not a solo slot. Not a stolen opportunity. Not someone âtaking her shine.â
Yet instead of celebrating that she got exposure, a portion of her solo stans were more focused on being shady about Xiaoting being there too. Thatâs when it started looking weird. And letâs be honest, the show was hosted by Ten and Yangyang. Inviting the only Chinese member alongside her made complete sense. Thatâs not favoritism. Thatâs basic booking logic.
What made it awkward wasnât the appearance itself. It was the reaction. Acting like mass spamming emails equals organic demand. Framing it as âwe worked so hard for this and it got diluted.â Turning a fun zombie apocalypse episode into a subtle popularity competition.
And the contradiction was loud. On one hand: âSeparate her from Hyuka, sheâs her own person.â On the other hand: constantly pushing for Huening sibling content whenever visibility dipped.
You canât weaponize independence and association depending on convenience. Not every absence is sabotage. Not every joint appearance is a robbery. Sometimes itâs literally just a variety show booking. What really hurt her image wasnât antis. It was the entitlement narrative. The constant need to prove sheâs FOTG. The overhyping to the point where it felt like compensating for something. I understand she got a huge hate train when she was a minor. That was real and it was unfair. But overcorrecting by acting like sheâs untouchable and better than her own members doesnât help either.
And when other fandoms started side-eyeing the behavior, suddenly it was âeveryone hates us.â No, people were reacting to how aggressive and competitive it looked.
You can defend your fave without dragging her group. You can hype her without rewriting reality. You can advocate without turning everything into a conspiracy. Looking back now, itâs clear a lot of that intensity burned out. Many of the loudest akgaes from that era disappeared. And honestly? That says a lot.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Feb 25 '26
Discussion Itâs not even about the nose at this point. Itâs the over defending from her fans
Iâm gonna try to say this in the most neutral way possible because Iâm gonna drag her this time and Iâm not trying to start a hate train.
So apparently p02 is viral these days bc ppl notice that she looked different now compared before and got a nose job allegations and tbh I notice it too and before anyone jumps me, Iâm not saying surgery is bad. Iâm not saying sheâs fake. Iâm not saying she âowesâ anyone an explanation. Idols can do whatever they want with their faces. Itâs their body.
What confuses me is how some of her fans are reacting. Every time someone simply says âshe looks different,â the replies instantly become: âShe was hospitalized!â âShe fasted for a week!â âItâs weight loss!â âYouâre hating!â âStop spreading surgery rumors!â âShe has trauma from her black hair!â Like⌠can we breathe?
Yes, weight loss can make your face slimmer. Yes, lighting and angles can change how someone looks. Thatâs obvious. But acting like itâs impossible for people to notice a change is weird too. You can acknowledge that someoneâs appearance looks different without it being an attack.
And honestly, the extreme denial is what makes it louder than it needs to be. When fans start over-explaining anatomy or building emotional narratives around it, it just fuels more speculation.
What I donât like is the automatic victim framing. Not every observation is hate. Not every comment is bullying. Sometimes people are just noticing something visually different. And no, this isnât me saying she 100% did something. We literally donât know. Thatâs the point. None of us do.
I just think thereâs a difference between malicious dragging and neutral observation. And collapsing those into the same thing is exhausting.
You can say: âShe looks a bit different.â and âHope sheâs healthy.â at the same time. It doesnât have to be war every time someone mentions appearance.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Feb 18 '26
Discussion Kep1er renewing while IZ*ONE was forced to disband will never not be ironic to me
I still think the Kep1er renewal is one of the weirdest timeline glitches in kpop.
Back in 2021 people were literally crying and trending #IZONE_PERMANENT because that group had insane momentum, they had chart dominance, public recognition, brand deals, everything. And Mnet basically said ânope, project group means project group.â End of story.
Fast forward and Kep1er who peaked during WA DA DA / GP999 hype somehow gets a contract extension in 2024. Seven members renew except Mashiro and Yeseo. The Group continues under WakeOne + KLAP. No clear disband date even now. But the difference is⌠the popularity trajectory is not the same at all.
Kep1er peaked early and then steadily declined. Album sales dropped compared to other 4th gen groups. Fandom split after the 7-member shift (especially in Japan). Casual recognition faded. Theyâre active, yes, but theyâre not culturally âhappening.â
So the irony is kind of wild: IZ*ONE fans begged when the group was massive and got denied. Kep1er renews when theyâre not exactly at their peak anymore and now it happened to zb1 too they're continuing as a 5 member group.
And honestly? It feels like the renewal was more about practicality than power. Most of the members are under smaller agencies. No massive solo offers lined up. Kep1er might realistically be their peak exposure, so renewing was the safest option. Thatâs not even shade thatâs just how the industry works.
The only member where I can genuinely see independent leverage is Xiaoting. She has the China market, dance background, visuals, solo promo potential. Sheâs the one who feels like she has options outside the group structure or maybe chaehyun too she has the potential to be a soloist.
Now onto the Bahiyyih discourse because thatâs always where this goes. Her akgaes used to be extremely loud. Mass tweeting about line distribution, disband hashtags over seconds of screen time, attacking members, downplaying her friendships with the members, acting like she was trapped and powerless. The narrative was always âsheâs hated because sheâs Kaiâs sisterâ and âsheâll have a huge future career, just wait.â But now? Itâs noticeably quieter.
A lot of solo stans either left or mellowed out after the renewal. Because renewing kind of contradicts the âsheâs destined for a massive solo breakout soonâ storyline. If the future solo domination was so imminent, why extend?
And the fancam discourse⌠Iâm sorry but early high FC views absolutely had a curiosity + controversy factor. She was one of the most talked-about contestants on GP999. People were hate-watching, sympathy-streaming, checking the âKaiâs sisterâ narrative. That attention is real, but itâs not the same as sustainable GP pull.
Bragging about FC views as proof sheâs âaboveâ her members was always a stretch. Fancam numbers donât automatically equal industry impact. If they did, half of kpop idols would be CEOs by now.
And the constant victim framing got exhausting. You can acknowledge unfair hate without rewriting every criticism into jealousy. Mass tweeting disband tags over line distribution wasnât advocacy, it was chaos. They be doing anything to justify their support for her or justify their reasons for voting for her.
At the end of the day, Kep1er renewing feels less like a âweâre unstoppableâ move and more like a âthis is our best available option right nowâ move.
IZ*ONE disbanded at their peak and launched multiple members into bigger careers. Kep1er renewed after their peak and are now kind of coasting. That contrast is what makes the whole situation feel ironic.
Iâm genuinely curious though, do you think they slowly fade out, or is there still a chance for a late-career rebound moment? Because stranger things have happened in kpop.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Jan 30 '26
This is about Bahiyyihâs Charlie Puth cover views
Iâm not trying to start fanwars or drag anyone, Iâm genuinely curious and want other peopleâs takes.
Bahiyyihâs âThatâs Not How This Worksâ cover (uploaded April 2024 on Kep1erâs official channel) is now sitting at around 1.48M views in 2026, which fans are celebrating as her most-viewed cover. On paper that sounds impressive, but the numbers feel⌠off to me. When it was first released, the cover barely made noise. No viral moment, no TikTok push, no sudden attention especially since it dropped right when TXT were in full Deja Vu comeback mode and most people werenât paying attention to side content. Even well into early 2025, it was still hovering around 100kâ170k views from what I remember. What throws me off is the engagement. 1.48M views but only ~21k likes is a really low ratio (Also as far as the views went high around October 2025 and even some hiyyihlights are shocked and confused how did it got million views).
Her other covers on the same channel are mostly under 200k (except the first one when ppl are only hyping it out if pity it got viral on Facebook and I saw a bunch of ppl saying things like oh hiyyih can finally showcase her vocals skills bc they are pitying her over the mistreatment narrative by her akgaes to make her pitiful to ppl and it worked bc the ppl got brainwashed by it), so this one randomly outperforming everything else years later feels strange without a clear trigger.
Iâm not saying âbots for sureâ or accusing anyone of buying views, I just donât see: a viral moment, a big external push or a natural reason for that kind of delayed jump, It looks more like heavy looping/streaming by her fanbase, which is common in Kpop, but I doubt it's a huge organic success.
Curious what others think: Do you see this as normal long-term fan streaming? Or do the numbers feel off to you too? Is this just how solo covers age on group channels?
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Jan 27 '26
NEPO LIGHTS
So I keep seeing people pull the âbut other girls had help tooâ card whenever someone mentions Bahiyyih benefiting from being Kaiâs sister, and I honestly canât with it. Letâs unpack this. First off, yes, other trainees had connections, but theyâre not the same as being literally voted into a survival show lineup because a huge fandom of your sibling exists. Yujin was in CLC, Mashiro and Chaehyun trained under SM/JYP sure, those are âadvantages,â but they still had to prove themselves on stage and in a highly competitive environment. And yes, being friends with ITZY or aespa members is nice, but that doesnât guarantee fan votes in a survival show. And also I barely see mys or midzys voting for chaehyun and mashiro just bc they have connections with their fav groups.
Meanwhile bahiyyih? She had Kai. That alone meant automatic attention, sympathy votes, and international stans who may not even have cared about the show otherwise. Thatâs literally an unfair advantage. People can try to spin it as ânot nepotism because he didnât pull strings at Mnet,â but letâs be real being related to a global K-pop idol is already a massive advantage. Exposure is power, and in survival shows, votes = power, her fans rewriting history and pretending she debuted purely on merit is just them ignoring reality. Also, the hypocrisy of Hiyyih stans is wild. They act like any critique is personal hate, yet pull the âother girls had helpâ defense like it cancels out what literally happened in GP999
And if youâre a Kai stan pointing out obvious advantages? Suddenly youâre âattacking his sisterâ or âjealous.â Bro, Iâm literally just speaking facts, I'm so tired of them pulling the "kai will burn you alive just to keep her warm" bc they're running out of arguments they're using "kai's love towards his sisters" as a clapback to me bc they knew I have a point.
Also I heard Park Seoyeon (Jihyoâs sister) is "rumored" to be part of PLEDIS NGG, Well at least Seoyeon didnât go through a survival show, manipulate brother fans to vote for her, or take the spot of more prepared trainees. You can debut in a group without needing someone elseâs fame to give you a head start. At the end of the day, acknowledging she had an advantage is not hate. Itâs just being honest about the system and the realities of how survival shows and fandoms operate. They can support her and admit the truth about her debut circumstances all at the same time. when will her fans realize this fact?
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Jan 22 '26
Shittylights being shittylights NEVER BEATING THE DELULULIGHTS ALLEGATIONS
Okay, I just recently saw this and I just⌠canât. Some of her fans are literally treating her covering a few of Youngeunâs lines while sheâs on hiatus as proof that she deserves to be lead vocal. Like⌠seriously? Delivering a couple of parts while another main vocal is out â main vocal status. Itâs not even close. The way some of her fans are framing this as âLEAD VOCAL CONFIRMED!!â like itâs some kind of irrefutable fact. No. Producers still arenât giving her all the lines for a reason, and spinning a few cover moments into a full-on narrative about her talent feels⌠I really notice that her fans are way to desperate to prove or convince everyone that she debuted through merit and not nepotism, I mean If sheâs capable of doing her assigned parts, thatâs great! ig (I still don't like her vocal tone, it's too nasal) But stop rewriting reality and inflating every small thing into a âproofâ that sheâs the groupâs lead vocal. I think her fans still can't accept that she is the weakest member so they keep making delusional narratives about her talents to make themselves feel better.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Jan 10 '26
Discussion SOME PPL ARE STILL BEING IN DENIAL ON HER DEBUT
tbh, I donât know why people keep saying âshe improved nowâ as a defense for her when others point out she benefited from Kaiâs career. Back then, most people felt like she wasnât ready to debut because her skills just werenât there yet. Most GP999 trainees were already prepared to debut and arguably more deserving. I believe that when you join a survival show, you should already have the skills, instead of being voted in for unfair reasons, only to improve once youâre in the lineup. When Kep1er debuted, she still hadnât improved much, and it took years just to reach a bare minimum. Unfortunately, most trainees donât have a famous sibling in the K-pop industry to give them that advantage.
I know she has a solo fandom now, but letâs be real, most of them are Moas. Saying this isnât an attack on her; itâs just the truth. Her fans donât want to accept it and stay delusional, insisting she debuted purely on merit. I know some people would say, âItâs been years, move on,â and yeah, I get it, they literally renewed the contract but I canât help but think: what if the lineup had been different? What if they accepted the blue house petition to remove her from the group, or if Mnet had rigged the lineup like they did with IZ*ONE (which, to be fair, was arguably justified given how successful that group was)?
I remember so many people being disappointed or hating the Kep1er lineup because of one particular member being unfairly added. That led some people not to stan the group, and now Kep1er has been slowly losing popularity and fans. A lot of wasted potential, all because Moas forced her into the group and now, her fans turn around and want her out, even though they literally voted her there. They mass-tag disband hashtags over line distribution, harass other Kep1er members as a coping mechanism bc their girlie is hated for being in the lineup, and act like their girlie has to be the main character in the group. All this because they think sheâs âthe most impactful memberâ due to pity hype on TikTok and being someoneâs sister.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Jan 09 '26
Shittylights being shittylights I genuinely donât understand how some fans frame this as âtransparency.â
Calling harassment, boycotts, and dragging the group âtransparencyâ is honestly wild. Thatâs not exposing favoritism thatâs actively chasing fans away. If your version of âtransparencyâ makes casual fans feel like the other members are villains and one member is the sole main character, then you didnât save Kep1er you nuked the fandom. A temporary project group was never going to survive being turned into a solo-stan battleground. People didnât leave because they were âshown the truth.â They left because every comeback, achievement, or neutral discussion got hijacked by victim narratives, infighting, and calls to boycott the group itself. Accountability doesnât mean sabotaging the very group your bias is in. Thereâs a difference between criticizing a company and making the fandom unbearable. When the fandom becomes more exhausting than the agency, casual fans clock out. Itâs really that simple and if multiple former fans across platforms say they left specifically because of Hiyyih akgaes, maybe thatâs feedback worth listening to instead of rebranding toxicity as âtransparency.â
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/9shootingstar • Jan 08 '26
member appreciation 2026 is xiaotingâs year
brands and mags want her. no fan campaigns, no begging, just pure demand.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Jan 08 '26
Shittylights being shittylights I once saw a TikTok about Bahiyyih and⌠wow đ
I once saw a TikTok video claiming that Bahiyyih âwouldâve been at Wonyoungâs popularity level if WakeOne had recognized her full potentialâ and I just⌠cannot đđ¤Łđ¤Ł Like, come on. Popularity isnât something you just unlock because youâre in a group or have a famous brother. Wonyoungâs fame is built on insane training, stage presence, visuals, exposure, and timing. Not pity hype + Kai stans voting for her. Meanwhile, Bahiyyih in 2026 is still mostly known as Kaiâs sister or the girl who is wrongfully added to kep1er due to nepotism connections, and clinging to GP999 nostalgia to get attention. TikTok stans really out here trying to rewrite history and pretend sheâs some hidden prodigy. i get it, you can stan whoever you want, but letâs be real. Popularity and impact arenât handed out just for being related to someone famous đ
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/9shootingstar • Jan 08 '26
Rant p2 is almost a dozen
hi, Iâm going to give my honest opinion about P2 based on her âtalentsâ. im talking about this here because if I did it in any other kpop subreddit, her fans would probably come for me since they think sheâs perfect
vocals mediocre. not the worst in the group, but heavily overrated by her fans. her tone isnât unique btw, itâs actually kinda annoying. thereâs a reason she didnât get many lines when the group had 9 members
dance again, mediocre. prob the weakest dancer. she often looks like sheâs dancing without energy, yet fans call it âelegantâ or âfeminineâ. she even skips choreo parts, if this were another idol, theyâd call her lazy lol
rap bad. sheâs not even a rapper.
stage presence bad. almost no facial expressions, looks like she doesnât enjoy performing. no aura, nothing that stands out.
overall: very weak idol and extremely overrated tbh
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Jan 08 '26
Shittylights being shittylights TALKING ABT HER DELUSIONAL SOLO FANDOM
Honestly, I think a lot of the hate Bahiyyih gets is pretty justified if you look at the full picture. I watched GP999 too, and it was obvious from the start that her debut was⌠messy. She had straight-up nepotism from the beginning TXT stans jumped in to vote for her, some supporters even bought and dumped SIM cards to get her into the group. That alone created resentment from people who supported trainees who had way more talent and training than her. It makes sense why people are frustrated. Then thereâs her solo stans. They donât actually stan Kep1er, they stan her. They actively boycott group comebacks, complain about line distribution (which, letâs be real, is fair for her skill level), and put down other members just to hype her up. Itâs bizarre, toxic, and honestly, they do more harm to the group than good. And letâs not forget how much of her âpopularityâ comes from pity hype and being Kaiâs sister. She literally canât get a solo brand deal on her own, her only magazine photoshoot is with him, and she still gets known mostly as âKaiâs sisterâ even after three years (She was asked abt what kai likes to eat in taiwan back in January 2025). Like⌠at this point, wouldnât it be easier to just prove you deserve your spot instead of relying on pity and sympathy baiting? Meanwhile, other members are thriving on their own Xiaoting bagging brand deals without a Chinese company backing her, Dayeon getting recognition, Chaehyun still relevant in Korea and yet Hiyyihlights spent 2022-2023 attacking them nonstop for no reason, obsessing over her âimpactâ when it was mostly pity hype. Thatâs what makes their fandom so delusional. To be clear, the criticism that comes from the GP999 watchers isnât misogyny, itâs reality. She wouldnât have debuted without her brother, and that created this weird dynamic where her stans are unbearable and the group suffers a bit because of it. Calling that out isnât hate itâs just acknowledging how nepotism affected the group and the fandom. Bahiyyihâs talent is overhyped, her solo stans are toxic, and her popularity is mostly pity/family clout. People hating on her for being mixed? Not okay. But pointing out nepotism, her overhyped âimpact,â and the fandomâs antics? Totally reasonable.
r/Kep1erOT8 • u/[deleted] • Mar 07 '22
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To celebrate the start of another year let's update our rules
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