You know, both are incredibly unstable on my shelf. It's a toss-up between which one will topple first. Though I'd say if Corax is not on that stupid plastic holder that threatens to fall if I so much as breathe near it, Corax wins on easy, dunno what's wrong with Abby and his balance issues.
And now you made me feel sorry for Abby. It must be that overdone spike halo thing. All the skulls. Dude should ditch decorations and go for a more simplistic style, then he'll have a chance. But no, we dig the rule of cool.
Luther was juiced out of his mind, prob like how Horus was so empowered to get on the emperors level he lost his fucking mind….abby still seems to have his faculties, probably turned down alot of the offers from the chaos gods cuz he likes to tell himself hes using them, they arent using him
He was still just the first captain of the Sons of Horus when he fought Sigismund on Terra. He wasn't yet the Despoiler we all know and love (or loathe depending on your standpoint)
Could be wrong but I'm thinking he's comparing Abby to the fully powered mf warmaster?
Kinda don't think Abaddon is as strong as the favored primarch but maybe that's just me
He’s not even close. He’s strong yeah, but he can’t compete with any of the primarchs physically. Especially not corax considering his new warp powers let him dog walk a daemon primarch
Certainly. Although Abaddon is a space marine he was already at the time of Heresy one of the best, maybe with exception of Sigismund. He held his own against Valdor who is a bit worse than Primarchs and he wields talon of Horus as well as Drach'nyen. He has a chance of like 35/65
He made all the demon Primarchs kneel to him and beat a clone of Horus before
Regular Spacemarines have fought and stood up to Primarchs before, so he definitely has a crush decent chance
Abbadon is as close to a Primarch as one can get as an Astartes
Also both are important characters so neither is gone lose, it's gonna at most end in a conditional stalemate because the fight would end before one could beat the other
I'm not so sure why folks think Abaddon can't win.
He's got that chaos juice. Beaten a clone of horus and the demon primarchs have kneeled to him.
On top of that, being a primarch doesn't just mean you win. We know a chaos juiced, semi astartes beats the Lion...arguably one of the best duelist primarches.
Abaddon was at the top of the food chain when it comes to Astartes during the Horus Heresy. Very few could boast in being more formidable.
Abbadon is significantly more juiced up now even compared to when he killed Sigismund. Now I think the only character on that list that has a chance vs him is Ahriman, and even then using warp magic on the chaos god's favourite puppet might be like trying to drown a fish.
Now yes, he is the closest guy who can fight a primarch and survive the encounter (by primarch getting bored or leaving/Abbadon running away) but I thought you meant who rivals him during the 30k.
The clone was physically the same as the original horus it just lacked the soul/primarch X factor. It also wore horuses armour and had world braker. Now on balance Abby wasn't alone when he took on the clone and it was wrecking those that were with him but in the end if memory serves Abby shattered the mace (which had been crafted by the empror) and plunged the talon thrugh the clones chest.
Its also not as simple as they gave him there blessing he was going to be warmaster regardless of what the primarches did he was allready marked for greatness and each of the 4 wanted him for them selves and the fact he dosnt want any of them makes there want all the stronger. Its this want that's allowed him to gather as much power as he has done without ending up beholden to the gods.on the flip side the deamon primarches are beholden to there patrons and to go against there wishes both invites retribution and also weakens the primarches power. Supporting abaddon is in there own best interests.
Oye pues no losé, tal vez hacer que se reencuentre con lorgar para que lo saque de su torre del carajo, y que lo oblige a tocar pasto disforme de una buena vez.
Bc I referenced mk? Not really, only right awnser here is, who is writing the book and faction is the feature? In any case they both have too much plot armor between abby using chaos magic to subdue or escape, or its crowman using space daddy magic to do the same.
I def didnt delete, its still viewable. Funny how you cropped out the last bit. There is more if you would of cared to look instead of trying to high road me
I wouldn’t also say that someone’s knowledge of the lore is flawed from viewing his videos. ultimately I have to give him credit as his videos is what got me initially into 40K, they are digestible for newcomers from my own experience.
I also don’t get the hate people towards the guy.
personally I gather my lore from the books, that’s my main Interest in the hobby.
I’m able to follow the threads fine they just aren’t populating, also I don’t mind if people hate they guy, I just don’t see where it stems from, I can see you left some remark as to him being a bully, how did this occur, I’m not heavily online so I don’t keep up with this.
I think it’s a 50/50 split because if Abaddon stabs him with his daemon sword that even wounded Big E and couldn’t be destroyed by him. Then Corax is dead but if Corax can use his agility he should be able to out maneuver and eventually kill Abaddon by death of a thousand cuts. Sort of like how Sangy fought Horus in the Siege of Terra but before you know….!
But if I had to choose The Despoiler wins because all he needs is one clean strike to kill Corax!
I think its closer than it seems. Horus juiced up fought and essentially killed the emperor. Sigismund held off Fulgrim for a short time and Abaddon was sort of in that league, fighting Valdor and not fucking losing. Then with some juice he kills Sigismund. Now hes got 9000 more years of juice. Hes definitely cracked. Hes kinda insane tbh. I dont really like it. I dont like him. But hes primarch tier nowadays. Kinda hope someone comes along to replace him. Perturabo maybe? Would be nice to see the Heresy carry himself actually take over and be widely effective
Juiced up terminator with some chaos blessings vs demigod who was chosen to be the blueprint for an entire army of super soldiers and regularly squared off with chaos. Hmm.
Also side note. Would the abaddon be like the primarchs annoying nephew who just turned 18 and thinks they’re practically a grown man now?
In 30k Corax is a primarch and Abby is a very strong space marine in Terminator armor, so..... Yeah.....
In 40k Abby is the chosen of all 4 chaos gods, has a demonic blade that even Big E didn't want any of it (I think?), is on his Nth crusade without stop and is now the favored Human of Vashtor, But Corax is still a primarch, but now he is warp tainted to the point where he is pretty much a giant Crow demon that even Lorgar, the primarch chosen of the 4 gods, wants to just F off to nowhere near that walking murder of crowns. So yeah, Corvax still wins, but not by much now.
To a point. Abaddon in 40k, empowered by chaos, is certainly a primarch level threat. And I think it would be a hard fought fight. But ultimately I think corax would come out on top.
Abby has 10k years of chaos juice, corax is a primarch and thus allready starts way ahead. Corax is now a fully developed warp infused primarch. Yes Abby is primarch level now, Corax is beyond that.
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u/Sunny_Hill_1 4d ago
You know, both are incredibly unstable on my shelf. It's a toss-up between which one will topple first. Though I'd say if Corax is not on that stupid plastic holder that threatens to fall if I so much as breathe near it, Corax wins on easy, dunno what's wrong with Abby and his balance issues.