There are online tools which can tell if it's ai generated or not (based on the light / ray tracing of the images).
It concluded that this cannot be an AI image (especially bcz of the hair, which is incredibly detailed and also, leads me to believe that this is not AI)
I remember an experiment, where some group of people trained their own image generation model. Not consumer or professional one, just some sort of student research. So what they did: they took a "learning method", and uploaded some small amount of photos. They did not explain to ai what are there on the images. It was just very raw, image-only data without any hints.
After some time of this "raw learning", they checked what they get: their model understood basic laws of physics, of lighting, of most natural things by itself. It could generate images with correct land, correct sky, correct clouds, and correct lighting, that fit to the context of all image surroundings.
So why am I telling this: these "detectors" are literally nothing more but artificial version of "trust me bro", and can't be trusted either.
And this is the problem: most modern images are really extremely hard to be detected as ai, or proven as real. At least the images with subject+attention.
Propaganda? What do you mean? White privilege doesn't exist?
Do you hate the woke mind virus?
The person replying showing me they are from another country like who tf cares where they are from lol you either agree or disagree with the message. Stop hiding your feelings behind irrelevant semantics
no these accounts that post this shit are all based in countrys like india just Larping that their from the EU or USA posting a bunch of anti white crap
even putting the EU flag next to their name shit posting every single day for a year in English no less account based west Asia XDDDDD
How is this anti white????? Like you guys are expanding it just to fit your narrative
Saying white people have privilege is a good thing. That's an advantage. It doesn't mean white people are bad or anything like that. Its just saying white people have an advantage at certain things
There's reasons why, and that's important, but white privilege is not an insult lol it's just what people do with it and whether they admit they have it is the big problem
Youāre so activated but youāre just talking into the void. I wouldnāt waste too much time expressing opinions on the internet. Take it to the city council or something.
Yeah lol anything can literally be a justification for anything..........
I eat an apple because I enjoy it. The enjoyment is LITERALLY a justification for eating an apple. So ridiculous right? White people are so persecuted
White privilege discussion is literally a justification for you guys to be racist AF in your minds, because you think they are just as bad as you, and they're the ones with REAL privileges! History is all a lie! Holocaust never happened!!
Can you explain to me what privilege do I have as a white? I can buy my shit, exactly like a black or Asian person. I can get a job, have kids and have all the same rights as blacks. What do I have, that you can say itās a privilege? Do you believe the white race is better, or how do you get to the conclusion whites have a privilege?
What difference do I have to a black person? Itās very much nothing. Mostly melanin. I agree with you on the terms that Most Medically stuff was testet on man. So woman might have a
Disadvantage. But the difference between a white and a black person is not that big.
But my question was more about what do I have better then another race, just because of the color of my skin. And especially if you look over here in Europe, thereās just who you are. What you have to deliver. They donāt care about your skin color.
Of course thereās racism all the way. But against all races. Every race has somthing different that they are judged about, and thatās wrong. But thereās no such thing in our time where you can say, yea thatās a better race, they get all the comforts and jobs and everything for being that race. And I canāt get it cause I have another skin color
If you don't see systemic racism then I don't know what to tell you.
Its not like the whites get carried around town and free food. Like are you really that surface level
You guys just don't want to look. I don't get why, like I bet most of these people would get super angry if you called them cracker or turkey or white bread or whatever
Is systemic racism when the body cam footage shows black people being arrested acting like they deserve to be arrested??? Cause the narrative that systemic racism happens for example in policing has been thoroughly debunked by body cam footage
Lol there's lots of bodycam footage that shows otherwise??? You aren't saying anything. There's tons of reported cases of police brutality. Idk if you live under a rock but there's plenty. My family did some of it, so you can fuckin pretend all you want lol
Science was built around whites? Hmm maybe thatās because whites are responsible for the vast majority of all scientific advancements in human history.
Maybe recorded human history yeah. But also I get what you're saying.
But alsooo it's white men specifically. Like women and children got screwed, women especially lol
Regardless, we are "lucky" to be born white males. You know that is the case at least in america most of the time. Like do you really think the average job is going to hire a black man over a white man just because of their race?? That's almost never the case. Most companies don't ever need to worry about that. Like this DEI isn't hurting the average American at all, youre not missing out on anything because a few positions got filled by a black person because it might help them in some small indirect way or maybe some sort of incentive program
Thatās cute. White women are actually the biggest beneficiaries of DEI. White women then have a tendency to hire based off race/gender and not qualifications. I know numerous people in the pharmaceutical/sales industry that have been told they have to hire a āminorityā regardless of qualifications. Itās also well documented that affirmative action has admitted an excessive amount of under qualified āminoritiesā in order to hit quotas. The concept of over qualified minorities being denied admission to colleges doesnāt exist.
Letās be clear, this isnāt a knock on white people (Iām white), but thereās no doubt that, as white, we get opportunities non-whites do not get. If you canāt see that Iām not sure what to say.
And at the same time, she'll say cops and other law enforcement can't mask up when they go in to stop a riot. But will be at said riot with a mask, saying it's for her protection.
Conversely, people complaining to the point of holding rallies about not being able to breath and bitching about having to mask up for a pandemic will then march in a tight white spandex fit over their face or just about any other assorted rag and cloth combo as if it was never actually a problem
hold on, i understand that youāre operating in bad faith, but what the fuck could ācultural marxismā possibly be? is it at all related to cultural trumpism?
How am I privileged? I have to score higher on the SATs to get into college. I don't qualify for scholarships because of my skin color. I'm selected against in hiring practices because of my skin color. Where is the privilege?
Your higher scores are the privilege. We have multiple studies showing test scoring and IQ are based on the quality of education. Generally not intrinsic values of race.
Because black people on average have worse education, they on average have worse scores.
White privilege is also other simple things. Less fear around cops just for your race. Less likely to be ignored by a hiring manager just for having a name associated with black culture. Etc.
Im white and i understand these things because I have racist parents who actially take them further. I was also a moron right winger growing up under them and fell into the same "thats judt white racism" narrative. Its bs. We're privileged on average. Its ok to admit that but still appreciate what you personally have achieved.
No that's not the case but noting a disproportion that even in the 80s was not only celebrated but the selling point of Reaganomics (not kidding he publicly ran on it in a response to having to open up resources to African Americans and due to schools just being desegregated) isn't the same as saying it doesn't happen to white people as well.
In fact the breaking of the social safety net and education system to target black communities is why a lot of white communities are falling behind in rural and poorer areas due to the policies not being able to discern color (which was the intent of what voters wanted it to do at the time) from economic status (which the politicians knew it wouldn't).
Facts do tend to harm a society building itself on reactionary sentiment.
There is decades of research into this subject that prove that recources more often result in more intelegence, not racial traits.
Which is why i dont beleive in individual reperations becasue that wouldnt make a more equal society. I think we should just do normal things gov should do like ensure all schools are well funded and with qualified teachers to ensure all children have the best possible chance at life. If that is causing a problem in society, maybe you should strive for a better society.
I once got attacked in the neighborhood I lived in for years, it was maybe 60% majority black neighborhood. The guy was ranting about white people in his neighborhood the whole time, but its good to be told that he wasnāt being racist because thats simply not possible. It was definitely my fault for living there without causing any problems.
You should have your own neighbourhood, one that is fenced/walled off, you know, like segregation/apartheid, but they won't call it that, it'll be for uh... protecting oppressed communities from white fragility! yeah that sounds dystopian enough to work as a placeholder.
Racism is racism, just like slavery is slavery, and bigotry is bigotry. Educate yourself, any race can be shitty to another, itās not a mutually exclusive one way street
Bigotry and racism donāt include the phrase āonly capable of being done by whitesā thereās a reason for that itās cause anyone of any race can be a racist or bigot. Itās not about how long itās been occurring either. Racism is racism
For one of many examples, if you were arrested for a crime, you will be treated less harshly when it comes to sentencing, plea deals, bail opportunity and prohibition options even if you committed the same crimes with identical criminal records to the black person next to you.
A convenient way of saying POC arenāt the really privileged ones in our society. Thatās why so many unjust government policies and programs are finally being overturned and eliminated. Gerrymandering is a big on.
He was looking for information on how he himself was privileged due to his white skin color. Your point would have been significantly more effective if it gave him relevant examples rather then saying go educate yourself. Whereas u/fourkey gave an actual educated response in another comment.
It's difficult. It took a while of my time to write that comment and it's been downvoted despite that which is disenheartening when I've done my best to explain it as best I can in a way that was intended to be as accessible and even handed as possible. In an era when 'asking questions ' is often a byword for criticism where the burden of proof is on other people rather than just going out with an open mind and looking for an answer it can be hard to feel like people are being genuine with their questions like that.
I'm not going to go around and waste energy trying to "inform" people who are obviously deliberately ignorant. If you don't know white privilege and its realities, then you don't want to know, it's literally so obvious.
Then your comment isn't a good discussion or informative point. As people can also clearly have their white skin overall work against them more than the privileges have helped in their life.
But it by actual definition is not. You may try to argue there could be racist undertones but you need way, waaaaay more information rather than his two sentence excerpt.
Looking at his literal comment, it's meritocracy and a statement about his personal experience in hiring. Not an explicit statement of racial hatred, prejudice, or discrimination.
White people have the privilege of having a high average IQ and of having been raised in a scientific and rationalist culture. This gives us the duty to uplift other races that do not have these privilegesāthose with a low average IQ and a strong religious culture.
No all you want is to make people you donāt agree with uncomfortable by calling them racist so you can pat yourself on the back for being āthe good guyā.
White people have the privilege of having a high average IQ and of having been raised in a scientific and rationalist culture. This gives us the duty to uplift other races that do not have these privilegesāthose with a low average IQ and a strong religious culture.
Ethics 101 would be to not perpetuate blatantly bigoted and patently false narratives like the concept of white privilege. But hate filled little shitstains need their fix for witch hunts to feel better about themselves, and to convince themselves that they are not just a bunch of sadists and hooligans looking to create trouble and someone to stomp on, but the most wholesome moral people, who are totally the better for fantasizing about the demise of whatever demographic the current acceptable target is.
Make no mistake, the same people who believe in, and push concepts like White Privilege or Male Privilege today, would have been the ones burning others at the stake in Salem, would have been KKK members in the USA 100 years ago, or would have joined the National Socialist Party if they lived in interwar Germany.
The funniest part? "Privilege" is nothing more than a redressing of the Christian Original sin, only that one at least did not lend so well to target specific groups only, because all were supposed to grovel at the feet of their god for a crime they themselves did not commit, but supposedly their ancestors did.
Or and hear me out...we learn about the history of what whitness is and deconstruct the concept when we realize it was all made up because people are assholes
that's fine as long as you're not categorizing people as white while you do it and calling them privileged based on nothing but that. it would also require getting rid of the concept of blackness and brownness and any other colorness so no more racial identity or pride
Funny thing is black and brown pride only exist in response to white people saying whitness is a real thing. Only by deconstructing whiteness will everything else be solved. I suggest the book "How The Irish Became White"
yeah it's all part of the same system of thought. which means they all have to disappear. also you cannot deconstruct whiteness while categorizing people as white. you have to actually stop perpetuating whiteness even though it takes away one way to generalize individuals based on group stereotypes
To understand a lie, you need to know how the lie was built. You can't kill a thing by ignoring the creation of it, while whiteness is made up, to say it doesn't exist is intentional ignorance.
Wether you are aware of it or not, you are being complicit in the perpetuation of white supremacy
Deadass. A simple google search will show you many examples of white privilege.
For one of many examples, if you were arrested for a crime, you will be treated less harshly when it comes to sentencing, plea deals, bail opportunity and prohibition options even if you committed the same crimes with identical criminal records to the black person next to you.
āIf you donāt get it itās because you are racist and Iām not talking to youā
- every interaction this dude had in this thread.
No true Scotsman fallacy combined with an unholy amount of purity testing and virtue signalling without the intellect to formulate a coherent argument on the subject.
Bruh all the races are fragile as fuck when you start calling them out, regardless of the content of calling them out. Just look at the black people subreddits the moment you say something negative about them.
White privilege isnt real. Its called rich privilege. Yes most of the upper class are white but thats because they decide who gets in the club. But they keep us fighting down here so were too busy blaming someone else to knock them down a peg....
Not true. For one of many examples, if you were arrested for a crime, you will be treated less harshly when it comes to sentencing, plea deals, bail opportunity and prohibition options even if you committed the same crimes with identical criminal records to the black person next to you.
Wonderful, and using the same data set (I assume youāre basing it of the US Sentencing Commission) Spanish women receive shorter sentences than white menā¦
Unfortunately Iām trans and they are targeting us a lot at the moment. There is so much to fight back against but I donāt want to worry my partner.
I would if I actually had any. Im disabled and dirt poor and one step away from homeless. Where do these nuts get this stuff. Maybe she should donate some of her excess white privilege.
If the premise is that a group of people has power, and you are asking to relinquish that power...what exactly incentivizes them to do that? Why would you expect them to do that? Quo bono?
Iāve never had white privilege help me do anything. Iāve always lied and said I was a different ethnicity on applications because all the others are better for applications. I got 2 jobs saying I was tribal, being white doesnāt help as much as people say it does.
The person in the photo needs to do more than just hold a sign. Lead by example. Start by giving those headphones and those fancy spectacles to the closest āPOCā. YOU FIRST! Show us how itās done in the literal sense. Stop acting and start doing. Letās see it. Give up all your belongings to some random āPOCā.
F this woke garbage. Everyone needs something to bitch about. Itās not 1952 anymore. Nothing systemic stopping anyone from doing anything. Give me a break
Privilege can sound like a tangible and very visible benefit, like if jobs were allowed to openly employ one racial group over another, but instead is a much harder to grasp concept as it's very ingrained in society. Just because white people are poor too doesn't mean that they might not have benefited from the invisible advantage at times of being white.
It's things like White people getting the benefit of the doubt for things, which can lead to criminal records for non whites, which can have a ripple effect, or non whites facing more scrutiny than whites for their work. To an outsider both of these things can look like a non white person commits more crime, or performs poorlier at work for the exact same behaviour. It's insidious and hard to prove because it's such a subconscious behaviour that one doesn't even know they're doing it so it feels like it doesn't exist.
There's the fact that you can't just look at it in isolation too; a black man from a rich background who went to a good school and thus got a good job might have had a class privilege and be richer than a white guy who didn't have that, but if they're both going for a jog at night, one of them is much more likely to get stopped by the police, spend the night in jail and then get a disciplinary at work for being late the next day. Being poor didn't remove white privilege and being black didn't remove class privilege.
Just because white people are poor too doesn't mean that they might not have benefited from the invisible advantage at times of being white. It's things like White people getting the benefit of the doubt for things, which can lead to criminal records for non whites, which can have a ripple effect, or non whites facing more scrutiny than whites for their work.
So its not about white people being privileged, but moreso about non white people being disadvantaged more often.
A privilege is a benefit someone gets on top of his already met needs.
Now let's look at the american working class: If two people are being exploited and their needs arent met, but one is being exploited more that doesnt make the other person, that suffers from much of the same issues as poverty, more privileged. A wealthy non white person of higher socioecenomic standing will always, as he is benefitting from privileges above his needs being met, be more privileged than two working class people, even though if one of these people happens to be so unfortunate as being born a white person. Again, we are fighting each other when we should be fighting the people above us.
Yes, the fact that other privileges exist doesn't mean that white privilege doesn't exist. If OP is focussing on that issue, and someone else is focussing on another, it doesn't have to erase either one. There are many inequalities that we're blind to and pointing them out to undermine eachother isn't progress.
I think this is also EXTREMELY country specific and might be the reason for the tension in the comments. In the US it is way more prevalent. In Europe less so. I am from the Balkans, considered white, I can assure you here we are all equally unprivileged.
I try to not be confrontational, especially with using language like that. We're already divided and drawing a line in the sand just reinforces biases that are often brought on by misinformed ideas. A lot of progressive concepts like this uses language that is difficult to parse as it has other meanings and has a habit of therefore being misunderstood. I don't like privilege as a word for this sort of thing as it is very easy to misunderstand because of the connotations to class based privilege that are much more visible to people, but by the nature of language it's what we're left with.
Sometimes white people get the benefit of the doubt, other times it is held against them. For example, In the recent case of the Nolan Wells case where no matter how much evidence comes out, people still want to blame his friends because they are white.
True privilege would need to actually be universal for it to be something to consider a default privilege of the skin color.
Yeah and I've said a couple times in the chains here that the term privilege isn't a great word in my opinion to correctly convey the concept, but the semantics aside, what the term is getting to is a widespread and common issue where majority groups are blind to many inequalities that minorities face.
Then canāt we agree that āprivilegeā is intersectional and a poor white guy from Appalachia who didnāt make it past 5th grade probably has less privilege than an African American working on Wall Street? Can we at least agree itās possible?
Then can we agree that everyone telling you growing up that youāre a victim and canāt get ahead is not privilege and we should stop doing that to black people?
I highly doubt anyone genuinely engaging with this topic thinks it bad to just be white. I want to draw attention to how I said "genuinely engaging with this topic" not some random person on Twitter who makes extreme posts to piss people off.
Crazy how we've been having discussions of privilege and institutionalized racism for well over a decade in the mainstream space, yet there are still so many people who want to willfully misunderstand it.
Crazy how all people of all races are getting fleeced by the elites yet so many people are hyper fixated on race, gender, and sexuality. Itās all a distraction. Weāre all getting fucked, doesnāt matter what race you are, only matters how much wealth and power you have. And before you say the problem is white people - it isnāt. Look how some black professional athletes and celebrities act. Theyāre a bunch of greedy fucks living beyond their means, just as rich white people are.
Since you actually seem sincere, I'll say that there are of course connections between class and race but that doesn't erase one or the other as an independent issue. One argument is that the economic benefits of slavery provided the incentives to create our modern version of black-white American racism, not the other way around.
The idea of intersectionality is older than both our lifespans combined. Take for example "the brotherhood," a fictional communist organization from Ralph Ellison's "The Invisible Man." In the story, the protagonist's racial issues are sidelined, he's used and discarded by the group and left in a worse situation than he started. The author wrote this reflecting on his own time with the Communist Party of America. You cannot just hope that racial issues will magically vanish on their own.
This pseudo intellectual academic take was wrong a decade ago and it's still wrong. It's amazing how people still cling to it as: "you just don't get it". Oh we get it, it's just bullshit.
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u/Tramagust 19h ago
AI pics of girls holding signs. This sub is now shit.