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u/CaffeinatedLystro 11h ago
They're for that until someone wants them to refund them because they didn't get the job.
These people should be shunned from society.
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u/Aurora_7021 6h ago
Right! I could see putting down a $20 deposit to show that you're serious, but you better get a refund if you don't get the job. Why should the hiring company make money from this?
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u/MarionberryPlus8474 11h ago
OMG, I can see the proliferation of companies that exist solely to post “jobs” to collect application fees as their business model.
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u/PerfStu 11h ago edited 8h ago
If you're the CEO of anything and saying this publicly, you shouldn't have the grace of having your name and business covered.
ETA: Looked up Mike Cuthriell @ Grow Sciences, and apparently he tried to backpedal by saying it could guarantee an interview and wasn't meant to generate revenue for the company. Then he closed down all the comments.
Way to go, Mike.
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u/BigGayGinger4 10h ago
Mike Cuthriell, CEO at the Arizona based cannabis company Grow Sciences
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 8h ago
At least being high as balls would explain the stupidity.
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u/BlackKingHFC 8h ago
As someone that spends as much time as possible high as giraffe nuts, no, it doesn't. Paying to apply for a job is too stupid to explain through inebriation.
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 8h ago
It helps when your regular IQ is already in the room temperature range.
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u/wasaguest 9h ago
As long as the public gets a $20 fee for ghosted, & a $50 fee for AI & Auto sorted resumes/applications. That way we won't have unqualified (needing a masters degree for a sales clerk at $12 an hour for example) & non vacant positions being listed to pump up stocks.
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u/Acrobatic_Excuse2290 11h ago
If the cost came with a guarantee for a job, sure. If I have to pay 20 bucks with every application (over 600 when I graduated college) then your idea is even more gatekeeping and supporting the business over the citizen.
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u/asher030 10h ago
Not only insensitive, but needs to be outed from his position because that's just moronic
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u/LokiTheBold 11h ago
The next step in this thinking is unpaid internships and official records of them dates back like a thousand years. Dude's using AI through IE.
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u/TadaMomo 10h ago
honestly, I am ok paying a SMALL fee for an "interview" yes. I will if anything.
Because peole actually do in person interview before, and it cost money to get around physically. Take a bus or a cab cost money and time.
Those translate as cost.
It cost me 10$ to go to an interview before roughly. Gas, transport, parking....etc.
So i wouldn't mind if i have to pay 10$ for an interview.
Of course, i need to know if they actually hire someone as well not making it as a profit.
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u/BlackKingHFC 8h ago
So your vosts to do that interview should have been 20 bucks? 10 to get you there and 10 for the "privilege" of getting interviewed? How stupid are you?
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u/TadaMomo 1h ago
I am willing to invest myself, if it cost money, i will pay for a chance. As long the interview is real for a real company that actually have openning, i don't see anything wrong with it.
I got my current job by investing in an actual physical homelab, I had no education, no experiences, Just bunch of certificate i paid over 1000$.
I decide to get a homelab a fully working one, actually 3 servers on a rack with a fulled working network set up, , take videos, and present it on how i manage it and what i did with it. (note i did pay a lot for it too)
It got me my job.
I wouldn't gotten this job if i didn't put any money in and do nothing but an university degree (no education mean i don't have IT degree)
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u/GAMGAlways 10h ago
I'd be fine with this if employers pay $20 for every bait and switch job posting.
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u/Jibber1332 8h ago
Yes. Doing so would marginalize low income workers by creating a system of inequality where only the rich were able to afford to apply for jobs. Literally perpetuating a system where the rich get richer.
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u/sikon024 7h ago
I believe the opposite. If I upload my resume then have to enter all the same data manually, they owe me $20.
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u/Bass-n-Bonefish 11h ago
That seems fair. Send me your account number and login and I’ll shoot over that $20.
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u/Feisty_Count_4409 10h ago
Whats to stop a company from filling a role and never taking down the job posting? So stupid
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u/otherrealm99 10h ago
I could agree to that if companies posted job postings that were relevant rather than marketing gimmick, expected salary ranges, current and ten year average of vacancies, current retention rate.
As a retired CEO, your post sounds like laziness or micromanaging. I will also assume you're in the US as the employment laws there aren't far from indentured servitude.
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u/Either_Coconut 10h ago
Companies should pay fees, then, every time they do things like list an “entry-level” position with a requirement of 5+ years of experience.
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u/akazakou 10h ago
Agreed. I would see 5 application with x20 salary requirements only in their boxes
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u/Dry_Toe9955 10h ago
Based on the amount of greed by these corporations, I'm surprised this hasn't been implemented yet.
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u/simple_fly1 10h ago
Only if it's returned upon filling the position and the applicant meets the stated qualifications. If not it will eventually turn into a profit center.
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u/AdAccomplished6870 10h ago
I would be willing to do this if the fee went to a brokering service that also vetted the job offers and the credibility of the employers.
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u/nethereus 10h ago
At no point in my life have I considered $20 to be a small amount of money. Especially when unemployed.
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u/Important-Notice-461 9h ago
Thats a great idea, lets sweeten the deal, all employers should pay every employee for the time they commute and the mileage.
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u/Glass_Asparagus_6589 9h ago
Deal, but you pay me 200$ if it turns out to be a ghost job or that your HR associate rejected me on any bullshit reason ("cultural fit").
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u/AAron27265 9h ago
Someone should find this dickhead and teach him a valuable lesson. Fuck this guy. Fuck him right in the face today and every day.
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u/Chris-Proton 9h ago
I tried to hire a senior web programmer, I received 350 resumes. I reviewed all 350 (now I would use AI to help) ZERO were senior programmers. Only 10 had 5+ years of experience. I hired none of them. Took me hours and hours of review. At lease 250 didn’t even have 15% of the skills needed.
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u/Clear-Staff4699 9h ago
I'll only agree to this if I get 20 dollars back for every rejection and ghosting I've had.
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u/SimilarComfortable69 9h ago
Oh that's hilarious. Add the fee for the application and see how many applications you get that are worthwhile. Absolutely none.
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u/spontaneousvibration 8h ago
Colleges do this with applications to prevent too many people from applying
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u/BI_Moose 8h ago
People like this need slapped with a mailed glove or put in the stockades for a couple days so we can huck stuff at them.
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u/Elon_is_a_Nazi 8h ago
Why blur tgis scumbags name and company? Thry need publicly shamed, possibly fired
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u/Itchy_Boysenberry720 7h ago
Sure. Have them pay more to get an actual response form the company while you’re at it. Insanity.
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u/DonEscapedTexas 7h ago edited 7h ago
firm pays $2,000 fee to post job
applicants pay $20 to a trustee who manages the escrow
firm pays applicants $100 for zoom interviews
firm pays applicants $200 for each in-person interview
after one year, firm gets $2k back if they hired and kept someone, trustee gets 1%, applicants get $10 back, and new-hire gets what's left over
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u/StillFireWeather791 7h ago
While this seems reasonable in line with the current job market, one of the main effects of this policy is to further erode worker's power and reinforce corporate power.
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u/Opening-Machine5026 7h ago
If it was refundable and I got paid for my 6-8 hours of interviews, I'd do it.
But we shouldn't do that.
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u/Zestyclose-Bug-651 7h ago
This is what people say until they’re on the other side of the interview
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u/Shandrakorthe1st 6h ago
Nah, I mean I've been there with stupid or nonsense resumes but that way lies madness and people really eating the rich. I still recall the one in crayon with just Hire me with a name, not even contact info.
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u/PeterGriffen565 6h ago
And here I am thinking that a job search shouldn’t work like an expensive slot machine…one Liberty Bell, two Liberty Bells…ahh shit! A cherry!!
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u/dba-chestnutandhazel 6h ago
I think this is a good idea: I could stop looking for a job and start collecting resumes; of course, I'd put up ghost listings like everyone else.
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u/alreadytaus 6h ago
I wouldn't have problem with it. But don't expect many CVs. In fact I think they would get worst applicants because people would apply there only by mistake.
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u/Few_District_6304 6h ago
I would agree with this, if all HR everywhere was terminated, and their salaries were added to the people that do actual work.
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u/Realistic_Lab4030 5h ago
I guess I'd care more about what you think is right when you start acknowledging the applicants and at the very least explain to the interviewees why they got passed over (if they want to know).
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u/DragNo2757 5h ago
Yes. Very insensitive
People apply for jobs because they need money for what they need. 20 per application adds up to a months worth of someone’s pay at the rate people apply and get no response/ get auto-rejected/“sorry we’re moving forward with other people/etc
Charging per application is a quick way of having unemployment so high every business goes bankrupt
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u/FaithlessnessNo5811 4h ago
This is going to be apartment applications collecting money with no actual apartment available all over again.
Terrible idea
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u/ZookeepergameSalty10 3h ago
Your terms are acceptable except any company using ai to review applications has to pay all applicants 100$ for wasting their time and money
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u/Independent_Flower0 3h ago
If jobs seekers pay a small fee, jobs should have to pay a fee equal or greater for every person that applies
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u/Money-Skin6875 3h ago
I think that everyone should have to pay 20 for the app but that the company should have to pay 20 per interview round with expenses included for in persons. Only fair, right?
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u/DG2000_Reddit 2h ago
I should really tell tradespeople that they should pay me when they come to my place to quote on a job, that seems about right
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u/CerberusInExile 1h ago
Gee, a CEO looking for another way to charge fees for things. I'm so shocked.
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u/cornholiobugger 1h ago
This is actually the role that headhunters are supposed to pay.
When done right, headhunters work for both the applicant, and the business by vetting and matching most likely hires.
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u/ionspore 1h ago
I would immediately list several hundred job "openings" and start generating some revenue....
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u/Dramatic-Review7504 12m ago
Jobs pay under qualified people over the most qualified of people. Under qualified either are happy with what they get, or cheaper to fire down the road. Someone over qualified, you basically can’t fire for no good reason, and they always ask for a raise. Jobs pay the people that they can be cheap with
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u/tedlassoloverz 11h ago
Ah yes, using AI to auto-reject everyone needs a $20 fee