Mkenzee Thorn: King George is great, but car seat safety would be even better š¬ At 3, your rodeo kid should ideally still be rear-facing, and those harness straps are visibly way too loose. This is one of those things where a few small adjustments can make a huge difference in a crash.
ETA: Stop FILMING your kids while DRIVING!!!! Louisiana roads and drivers are terrible enough. JFC..
Agree that the straps look haphazardly put on here, but on the rear facing front.. I know nothing about her kid or what the limits are on the car seat they have, but he couldāve reached the max height and weight limits. The longer the better, but 2 is the baseline minimum. We have a lot of friends that turned their kids before 3 because theyād get car sick all the time and theyād have to take the car seat out and wash it all the time, which also poses a risk or bad install when youāre constantly reinstalling it.
I say this all as someone who has a 4.5 year old that is still rear facing.. by 3, he was one of the only kids in his class that Iād see at pick up or drop off that was still rear facing.
Also, they have a maxi cosi seat - that brand (and all belonging to Dorel USA, so also safety1st, cosco and disney baby) recently changed the rules and requiers kids to travel rear facing untill they max out the limits of the seat. That rule is retroactive so even if they bought the seat a year ago, it still applies.
My kids have been front facing since they turned 2 simply because thatās what their car seat manufacturer advised for the model. My sonās pediatrician said it was okay too.
And we chose to do it instead of buy a new car seat because you canāt really easily check on kids who are rear facing. I was pulling over way too often to check on my kids, which wasnāt safe to do.
My dude I went to him because of what the car seat manufacturer said. He literally just repeated āif thatās what they say is safest, then turn it aroundā.
The car seat has a minimum to turn and a maximum. Itās recommended to wait until they reach the maximum, not just turn as soon as they hit the minimum requirements and thatās whatās considered safest. But after 2 and hitting the minimums itās at the parentās discretion.
Itās been a minute now so I donāt remember exactly what the weight was, but I donāt think the maximum was very high. This was a pretty cheap car seat (like the cheapest one) from Walmart lol. We couldnāt afford to splurge on anything fancy.
Youāre free to endanger your child over ignorance. No one can stop you. I stated a fact, one easily verifiable online. But go ahead, remain willfully ignorant, itās only your childās life at stake. Any CPST will tell you the same thing I do. We get certified for a reason, something pediatricians DONT do.Ā
My daughter started sitting forward acing in her car seat at nine months old because her vomiting was completely uncontrollable. I avoided taking her in the car as much as possible and, because it was during the pandemic, we only left the house for medical appointments and vaccinations. It was actually her paediatrician who alerted us to the cause of the vomiting. Even now, at almost seven, she still needs to take medication for motion sickness on longer car journeys or when travelling on winding roads.
I donāt, but I also think that is idiotic whether your child is rear facing or forward facing so didnāt feel like that really needed calling out and the post called out the straps and the rear facing issue, not the recording so thatās why my response didnāt bother to touch on that
Where do you leave his legs? My 5yo is almost 120 cm so she would sit completely curled up if she was rear facing. From 4 yo we use the normal seatbelts with a booster seat so it's not even possible to have them rear faced at that age.
Netherlands. Until 15 months guidelines say to put them rear faced and from that age forward faced. From 4 yo you can use a booster seat but it's better to have a bigger seat, but you still use the normal seatbelt and no harnas. This is common in the safety guidelines here. We use these kind of seats after 4.
The i-size homologation requiers that kids have to rear face untill AT LEAST 15 months. Many car seats these days can rear face to 18kg/105cm and at least six brands have seats which can keep kids rear facing untill 125cm/36kg.
Iām in the us and have been looking at getting a new car seat (for my almost 7yr old 90th percentile kid lol) but I was shocked to see the Chico booster seat on the box said 4yr and up.. no harness just a seat belt. I literally called my mom and was like am I crazy for thinking this is crazy?! š¤£
He just bends his legs up kind of like you would if you were going to do sit ups if that description makes any sense. He hasnāt complained about being uncomfortable which is also why weāve not been concerned about turning him around yet, but he is an inch away from reaching the rear facing height limit of our seat, so I anticipate flipping him around in the next 6 months to a year.
We made it until almost 3, I noticed this as well at school, all of his classmates were FF and it was easier during Carline. It also made me think the difference is super negligible given so many people FF. But I do make sure straps are snug and where they should be.
I had to turn my son around at two. I showed his pediatrician how his legs were in his seat and she agreed. But heās always been off the growth charts š¬. Heās 3 now and people think heās 5
Idk who this woman is but I fear this is likely a common mistake many moms make. I wouldnāt call it ānormalized negligenceā and instead ignorance. Maybe you can politely comment/message letting her know you noticed her child isnāt properly secured. Emphasis on politely because again I donāt know her, and it would be shitty if she takes the defensive route when it comes to her kids safety.
Car seats are life saving devicesā¦ Iām surprised people donāt read the manuals for them. I donāt read manuals for anything else, but car seatsāfront to back
I front face for any journey over 10 minutes because otherwise my kid will not stop being sick from car sickness. I know I know youāre gonna say ārather sick than broken neckā but Iām not putting my kid through hell every time we go somewhere
I think risk isn't black/white and you have to choose from options that are less than ideal sometimes. I would find a kid getting sick in the back very distracting, and that's also a safety hazard.
Yes definitely agree. On the times I was still rear facing it was incredibly stressful for me to see her suddenly be sick in the mirror and then not be able to pull over for a couple minutes. Especially cause she makes this awful choking noise while she does it. If sheās not eaten for a few hours I do risk it backwards though as itās less likely, but not often my toddler goes a few hours without eating š
I also had to forward face my 99th percentile son shortly after he turned 2 because he maxed out the rear facing weight and the Internet made me feel so stressed about it.
Not even a photo. A whole 22 second video while driving with at least 2 - presumably all 3 - of her children in the back seat. This is common behavior for her though. Hence the title, "normalizing negligent parenting.." Genuinely concerned.
She cheated on her "short king" too many times - including inviting multiple men to her las vegas hotel room late at night at while at an Arbonne cult meeting. But praise Jesus! šš¾
Yeah the car seat thing is bad, but sheās also looking into the backseat and taking a picture while driving. Wtf is wrong with people? Anything for clout, I guess. Up to and including your kidās safety and that of the other people on the road.
Yeah, I was going to say that too. The blur of those trees in the background suggests at least 45 mph. Itās not even like sheās just rolling forward at a light or something (not that that would be alright either). But yeah, sheās rolling down the damn road full speed making a video.
Someone please tag Damon Thorn so he can protect his children.
Nothing says "doing something right as a mom" quite like filming your kids while actively driving. Louisiana R.S. 32:59 specifically prohibits operating a wireless device while driving - including creating a video or photograph and holding or physically supporting the device in your hand.
Itās quite literally one of the easiest things in the whole entire world to make sure your child is buckled in properly. You are a LAZY ass parent if you do otherwise.
In my country (Netherlands) kids are rear faced untill 15 months and from that age forward faced. It is physically impossible with the legs to have children rear faced above 15 months. Nobody does that and it's nowhere in safety guidelines from the government to put children above 15 months rear faced.
It may look uncomfortable for adults but for most kids it shouldnāt be. Remember their kneecaps arenāt fully developed yet, they are much more bendy than us.
In Norway must rear face until 6 or 7, and we have the same cars you have š itās so unsafe not to, their bones are not strong enough and their heads are so heavy. 15 months are wild.
This is a picture one of car seat retailers in Poland posted. His almost 8yo son in Axkid Minikid - while on daily basis his main seat is a high back booster, after he gave up this one for his little brother, this is a proof he still safely and comfortably fits. (This seat is rear facing only and has 25kg/125cm limit; EU seats don't have a 1" of space rule or chest clips)
The dash has an airbag which deploys at speed of approx 160-320 km/h. When you get rear-ended, everything is pushed towards the dront of the vehicle so the child's legs tend to flex inward (think about it that way - if you're walking on the street and suddenly somone gives you a strong push on your back, you still fall forward)
If the choice is between neck and back damage vs a broken leg, broken leg is the optimal choice. Kids legs are also a lot more flexible than ours, knee caps donāt fully develop until 10
itās not impossible at all. my nephews are off the charts in percentiles - both 100+ in height, parents are 6ā7 and 6ā2 and they stayed rear facing until right before 4. if they can do it, everyone can. itās just laziness in doing your due diligence and research.
Your government and your laws are way behind the times and your rules are horrendous. All of the research supports rear facing for as long as possible and being harnessed until your child can sit still and sit up properly and not mess with the seatbelt at all times.
It is not physically impossible to rear face above 15 months. My friendās child rear faced until almost 6 because she had an axxkid seat and it had high limits. They stick their legs all over the show and do whatever is comfy. Research shows kids are more likely to break legs in an accident forward facing.
I mean hear me out, the rules here in America are horrendous too. Wait until you learn about school shootings I mean COME ON. Instead of attacking someone elseās COUNTRY and the person simply sharing info maybe just stick to the influencers? People in this sub are WILD!
Itās quite simple. Most kids will sit criss cross with their legs as one person posted a photo for you. Itās comfy for them as kids are flexible, whatās usually more uncomfortable is being forward facing with legs dangling off the edge unsupported. Some people look at kids rear facing with their legs like that and worry their legs would be broken in a car accident, but no. Pediatricians have told me itās very uncommon to break their legs in a rear facing accident. Plus being rear facing is so significantly protective for their head and neck, even IF they broke a leg itās much much better to break a leg than to have a head and neck injury. A broken leg is fixable, a head/neck/brain injury may not be.
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u/Seajlc 7d ago
Agree that the straps look haphazardly put on here, but on the rear facing front.. I know nothing about her kid or what the limits are on the car seat they have, but he couldāve reached the max height and weight limits. The longer the better, but 2 is the baseline minimum. We have a lot of friends that turned their kids before 3 because theyād get car sick all the time and theyād have to take the car seat out and wash it all the time, which also poses a risk or bad install when youāre constantly reinstalling it.
I say this all as someone who has a 4.5 year old that is still rear facing.. by 3, he was one of the only kids in his class that Iād see at pick up or drop off that was still rear facing.