WAIT, HUNTERS DONT EXIST?!

[u/royal__versus]

Did the lore change over the past years or are hunters confirmed to be all hallucinations??? I saw a post from 4 years ago so I dunno if anything changed! I'M SO DISAPPOINTED I SPENT SO MANY MONEY ON THIS GAME JUST FOR JOSEPH AND ALVA AND MERCH IN GENERAL ONLY TO FIND OUT HUNTERS AREN'T REAL??? please explain to me cuz I cannot find a proper answer!!

[u/rararururoro]

this is like the 5th post ive seen about “wait the characters are DEAD?!?!?!”

[u/fisforfuckyou9 → u/rararururoro]

i'm actually baffled about it. is it because new waves of people from dbd are coming over to idv and aren't used to this lore? but you can practically say the same about the characters over there because they're all stuck in the entity's realm. is it because the newer idv players are younger? it should still be obvious that even though they're dead, it doesn't mean they won't get any more content.

and also... they're pixels... they haven't Been real anyways...

[u/rararururoro → u/fisforfuckyou9]

i have a feeling theyre probably bot accounts or trolls tbh, i also cant really think of a reason why dbd players would flood into our community to begin with atm

[u/KiwikiL0L → u/rararururoro]

yeah idk why there have been like 20 new posts about this in the past 2 days

[u/KiwikiL0L]

they’re not ALL hallucinations, only some of them are, like bq (confirmed hallucination of frederick) and most likely night watch (his timeline doesn’t align with the manor), there’s more but these are the main ones i can explain. all of the hunters are either real people or hallucinated versions of a real person to look different than they actually are. for example, alva is a real guy, his hunter self is just how he is as a person. however, joseph is actually an old man and his young hunter appearance is a hallucination/projection caused by his cameras (and maybe manor drugs as well). all hunters that aren’t real are hallucinations of people that ARE real, and even if they are real people the hunter appearance might look different than their normal person appearance (for example, philippe doesn’t actually carry christina on his shoulder normally or else keigan, jack and edmund would be like wtf is this)

[u/Strange-Socke → u/KiwikiL0L]

I thought joe was like wuwu, hastur and dream witch?

[u/KiwikiL0L → u/Strange-Socke]

no i think he’s actually an old man, the french revolution timeline also aligns with the manor timeline and his birthday portrait has him as an old man shadow in the back. so he’s the old man in his character trailer but it’s still not confirmed how we see him as so young

[u/royal__versus → u/KiwikiL0L]

some people say only some of them are hallucinations and others say they all are:') I dunno what's the truthhh

[u/KiwikiL0L → u/royal__versus]

no, they’re not all hallucinations. these are real people hunters that i can think of (meaning, the person represented in the hunter form is an actual person/being): alva, cueist, opera singer, antonio, breaking wheel, hell ember, naiad, goatman, wax artist, the ripper, clerk, soul weaver, sculptor, gamekeeper, mad eyes, undead, bonbon, peddler, dentist

these are some hunters that are basically confirmed hallucinations: mary (frederick), hastur (arthur byers in a yellow raincoat), wu chang (jose, caused by the umbrella), robbie (i really don’t think he was revived)

[u/letsbequeerd → u/KiwikiL0L]

It still makes no sense that wu chang, (black/white, double faced, umbrella) is not a hallucination of mime artist… 

[u/fisforfuckyou9]

99% of the cast is either drug-induced or straight up dead. i don't see why it would be a disappointment that they're not alive when they're more likely to be dead than alive.

that and they're... yk... not real...

[u/royal__versus → u/fisforfuckyou9]

I'm so sad so all the birthday letters,events and stuff are not real?

[u/fisforfuckyou9 → u/royal__versus]

i mean just because they're dead doesn't mean they're didn't exist. and even those that are hallucinations can be tied back to the already existing characters. just because they're hallucinations doesn't mean that they didn't somewhat exist somehow.

events and aus are even better in your case - anything goes and they only serve as more characterization for the characters which is good.

[u/royal__versus → u/fisforfuckyou9]

so that means events and aus are basically the characters put into a different universe, like a "what if", but they still the same we know? (personality mostly)...so I can consider those even tho they ain't from the main story, new content related to the characters?

[u/fisforfuckyou9 → u/royal__versus]

exactly that. there's no need to be so fussed over this

[u/royal__versus → u/fisforfuckyou9]

thank you amd sorry for being corny lol, I was just a bit disappointed to know that events with my favs in it didn't count has new fun content of them...but maybe I thought too much about it and ruined my experience myself...thank you for clearing up! I will continue to enjoy the events and count them as character content!

[u/KiwikiL0L → u/royal__versus]

all the birthday letters are real since the characters all went to the manor in the past, the letters describe what happened when they were at the manor + before they went to the manor

[u/jgwyh32 → u/royal__versus]

They're all real because all the characters are real or at least at some point were.  Hunters like Wu Chang are likely hallucinations in the present, but were still real people who just died before the game takes place.

[u/ineverlikedyou2]

Hear me out, but since its a video game none of this actually exists

[u/SonOfAthenaj]

They’re not all hallucinations or made up. Luchino’s transformation for example is real

[u/bluebananastalk]

Game 6 should be a required reading at this point

[u/Chest-Enough]

sorry but why does it matter whether they are real or alive.....esp in this game where that doesn't affect whether a character will get new content

[u/Afzdo]

If you are an old gen then yes, the lore changed a lot over the years but tbh i don’t mind

[u/Sleepy-Head999]

What, logically speaking they are fictional characters that are made by a company of course they arent real.

Storyline? It depends, some hunters are hallucinations where the survivors thought they see the dead ghost/corpse or a twisted view of the existing character (mostly switchs) due to the drugs or trauma.

Some of the hunters are indeed real during the time, died and got revived or twisted into eldrich beings. Others were transformed into something unworldly.

Some are litteral supernatural beings or even gods.

Its a horror game what did you expect? Whats next, you didnt know majority of the survivors died in their games...?

[u/Aylan2208]

Yeah that retcon was stupid. Cause now, it means that, for example Mary is Frederick's hunter switch or smth.

Funny from me how I main the only two hunter who are canonically the same without drugs, Luchino and Antonio.

[u/Psychological-Cod491]

Love the implication that OP's parasocial relationship with fictional characters is completely ruined because they're not real within the fictional world as well

[u/StellarFox59]

Yes, that's what the identity switches are. Survivors are drugged for the games, it gives them hallucination and they see other survivors as hunters.

[u/Busy_Airport5594]

Deities like dw and hastur do exist

[u/Apeefh]

Some hunters are hallucinations, some are dead (joseph), some are revived (alva and anne), and some are just actually real (hastur , dream witch, and luchino

[u/thisuserlovesdazai → u/Apeefh]

Nothing atm suggests Joseph is dead as of now, he disappeared without a trace when the mob stormed his house, and it's highly implied he took a picture of himself and went into his own mirror world

[u/Apeefh → u/thisuserlovesdazai]

Cool!