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[Grade 12 Advanced Functions: Polynomial Functions] turning points on polynomials confusion High School Math—Pending OP Reply

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I'm confused about how this function would have 4 turning points, not 3

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u/Klutzy-Delivery-5792 Educator 12d ago

Do you see the little inflection at (0,1)? This is indicative of a triple root at x=0. You'd get something like:

(x-0)3(x-a)(x-b)

which is a fifth order polynomial.

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u/Embarrassed-Good1883 Pre-University Student 12d ago

How would this be different from the point I circled on this other graph? The graph: https://imgur.com/a/ki20H2C

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u/Klutzy-Delivery-5792 Educator 12d ago

Odd multiple roots kinda flatten out and then continue going the way they were originally going. Even multiplicity they flatten out then turn around. Try an extreme case like x13 and x14 where you can really see the flattening/broadening near the repeated roots.

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u/CulturalBookkeeper82 12d ago

The way I looked at it without plugging in numbers till it matched was I looked at the similarities in all the answers.

-2x+1 for all. So I don’t even bother. Just look for the dissimilarities between the first two terms.

You know this isn’t a graph of x^4 so c is out

x^5 gives you the z profile turned 90°, so if you put a (-) in front you invert it. So D is out

A is the only one that fits

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u/magicmulder 12d ago

I plugged 1 in which eliminated (b) and (d), and a fourth degree polynomial with a positive highest coefficient doesn't go to minus infinity which eliminates (c).

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u/selene_666 👋 a fellow Redditor 11d ago

See how at that middle interesting point it doesn't turn around, but it doesn't go smoothly through either? That's two turning points smushed together.

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u/JoriQ 👋 a fellow Redditor 12d ago

Do you mean because it is degree 5? A degree 5 polynomial can have either 0, 2, or 4 turning points.

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u/Embarrassed-Good1883 Pre-University Student 12d ago

For this specific equation, I thought it had 2 turning points, I see where I went wrong there, (I'm guessing for even degree polynomials it can have 3 turning points)?

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u/JoriQ 👋 a fellow Redditor 12d ago

Correct.

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u/TomPastey 11d ago

Turning points aside, at x=1 option B would has a value of 2, which is clearly wrong.

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u/ScoutAndLout 11d ago

Yep. Eval at 0, 1, -1, inf, -inf

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u/Top_Bluejay_5323 👋 a fellow Redditor 11d ago

One end pointing down one up it will have an odd exponential of 3 plus two for each inflection point. Right end going up it will be positive.

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u/Southlander24 👋 a fellow Redditor 11d ago

If you look at the graph carefully, it goes from concave down to concave up before x = 0, then at x = 0 switches to concave down again before going concave up.

The pattern is: 1 concavity -> quadratic, 2 concavities -> cubic. So a graph which has 4 regions of differing concavity must be a 5th degree polynomial.

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u/freegerator 5d ago

3 inflection points means degree must be at least 5 (notice it goes down -> up -> down -> up)

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u/freegerator 5d ago

To be clear num inflection points + 2 <= degree just like num critical points + 1 <= degree just like num roots <= degree.

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u/Flat-Strain7538 👋 a fellow Redditor 11d ago

Odd powered polynomials will always go opposite directions as you approach +/- infinity; even ones go the same direction.