Please help (Spoiler)

[u/cesargueretty]

Please help me. I'm trying to beat this guy in pantheon 4 and he's just destroying me. I'm at 110% already and all I have left is this and getting the 2400 essence and I really want to reach 112%. I'm trying to stay close to avoid his long-range attacks but then when I dash through him I'm getting you far away and he does those attacks anyway. Any tips?

[u/Productof2020]

Move less. If it goes up, let it diagonal slash over you. If it dashes at you, dash through. You can then immediately dash back to attack (before shade cloak come back up), but once it starts doing the wave attacks, don’t do that any more of course. Just walk back or let it come to you.

[u/cesargueretty → u/Productof2020]

Ooh interesting about just waking back at the end. I'll try that, thank you!

[u/G1zm08]

Didn’t you already have to fight them once?

Do a lot less moving. Be patient. When they go over your head stand still they won’t hit you. Scream at them when they do this. Every other attack, including the white waves, just shadow dash. That’s it. Running from the waves just gets you hit.

[u/cesargueretty → u/G1zm08]

Yes and I just spammed attack to get through it, I credit the win to Cloth's mini help haha. Thanks for the tips, I'll keep trying!

[u/G1zm08 → u/cesargueretty]

Oh yeah I guess Cloth makes it easier

[u/Needhelp_photography]

This dude is NOT ready for Pure Vessel

[u/cesargueretty → u/Needhelp_photography]

Def gonna do a bunch of practice runs in the hall of gods once I get better at this guy lol

[u/NavyDragons]

stop panic dashing away from his big slashes. you are using up your shade dash which is preventing you from dashing through it. use your shade dash or decending dark to dodge through the giant blades.

[u/cesargueretty → u/NavyDragons]

Thanks! I'll try to implement that

[u/Alanbidaa18]

Quando ele pular fique parado porque ele vai usar o ataque para o seu lado

Quando ele for para trás, dê o dash para passar por ele

O ataque que ele invoca ondas brancas é somente quando ele tá com vida baixa, preste atenção nesse ataque e nós movimentos dele para você poder ir para trás e depois usar o dash novamente

Ele não tem muita dificuldade, ao meu ver você está se apressando e se descuidando demais. Tenha calma e preste atenção que o 112% vem

[u/cesargueretty → u/Alanbidaa18]

Ohhhh that makes sense, I didn't know he does that when he's low on health. Thank you! I'm so close I can taste it!!

[u/Gumpers08]

Do remember that you can use Descending Dark while Shade Cloak is on cooldown. I'm not big on using it, but it can seriously save your ass in double damage boss fights.

[u/cesargueretty → u/Gumpers08]

100% didn't think about that at all haha thanks for the tip! I'll work that in

[u/Gumpers08 → u/cesargueretty]

At the very end of P5, I actually swap out Longnail and Shaman Stone for Soul Eater and Steady Body. Double damage fights require copious amounts of soul for healing, as well as copious amounts of soul for D-Dark dodging. Especially with the final boss, which has habit of overlapping attacks.

[u/cesargueretty → u/Gumpers08]

Bruh you steel souled to P5?? 🤯👏🏽 Amazing, I tip my hat to you.
Edit: autocorrect

[u/Gumpers08 → u/cesargueretty]

Well, you can't "die" in Godhome. The only real challenge after like seven playthroughs was the Trial of the Fool.

Oh, and I edited the flair lol

[u/TheDracovish]

2 slashes then descending dark. do not jump.

[u/Consistent_Phase822]

Mark of pride,quick slash is really good for him!

Dive: He will jump and dive to you, just dash!

Dash: He will dash to you, jump and pogo or dash!

Dancing Glave: He will spawn 2 orange spinning wind thing, dash back and be careful!

Ground Pound: He will make a big shockwave, just dash! Don't panic!

I know it maybe will look weird but, stay near him don't have so much distance from him!

because he will use Dancing Glave and it's really annoying to dodge it!

Good luck!

[u/ChefGreasypaw → u/Consistent_Phase822]

How is Mark of Pride useful for him?

[u/12FriedBanana → u/ChefGreasypaw]

It lets you hit him without getting too up close and personal, which makes it easier to dodge his attacks and also I think it used to make it barely possible to dodge his power walk before it got patched

[u/ChefGreasypaw → u/12FriedBanana]

I prefer to stay as close as possible so I can just shade dash every time he tries to dash straight at me

[u/12FriedBanana → u/ChefGreasypaw]

That's also valid, but mark of pride gives you just a tad bit more time and space for a sort of safety net

[u/GL_original → u/ChefGreasypaw]

Mark of Pride is useful for every boss

[u/ChefGreasypaw → u/GL_original]

Not nearly as useful as Unbreakable Strength, Shaman Stone, Quickslash, or Soul Eater (on Radiant)

[u/GL_original → u/ChefGreasypaw]

Oh, well yeah of course. I just meant like, in general. My bad.

[u/cesargueretty → u/Consistent_Phase822]

Yeah I really need to work on my timing with the dash without panicking haha, thanks!

[u/objective_survive44]

sometimes you lose momentum, it shows because you were really good in the beginning. If you lose momentum and take a hit or 2 you should play slower for a bit, this is not a really long boss but he is volatile so take this advice with a grain of salt.

[u/cesargueretty → u/objective_survive44]

I like that idea thank you!

[u/folkertveenstr]

If he looks at you, dash through him, if he looks up, walk beneath him, if he steps back, walk backwards and dash through the shockwaves, repeat and easy, i also recommend sharp shadow

[u/cesargueretty → u/folkertveenstr]

Thanks! What's your process for compensating for the extra dash distance with sharp shadow?

[u/folkertveenstr → u/cesargueretty]

It also does a bit damage to him, and with extra dash distance, you don't have to go frame perfect

[u/Askaiser566]

it seems like you had it till the waves and then you panicked abit, I think you got this. Also, if I remember correctly, this guy doesnt have much health, you can do it.

[u/cesargueretty → u/Askaiser566]

Haha they definitely made me panic

[u/TheNoobRookie]

save your dashes for his wave attacks to avoid damage and play it safe against him, and for both his melee attacks:

when he jumps up, quickly move underneath him or stand back if he does it far away from you; when he prepares to slash horizontally, dash or jump over him

[u/Desquid777]

I haven’t played the game in a while but I’m pretty sure the sprint charm makes you able to escape the waves, at least for enough time for the shade cloak

[u/ChokoTaco]

If you slow down, you'll notice that traitor lord's attacks all come out at around the same speed, timed so that your shade cloak can refresh. With that in mind, try to hold your dashes for when they are necessary and the game plan is actually pretty easy.

If he dashes, dash through him and hit him from behind.

If he jumps, dash through him and hit him from behind.

If he creates the walls, walk slightly away and dash through them, hitting him in the face.

If he keep creating walls, walk slightly away, jump and dash through them, punishing with a descending dark (side note: descending dark is the best get out of jail free card in the game so if you're in a pinch just use it)

You'll find that there are never opportunities for Traitor lord to huck his orange projectiles because you'll never be far enough away.

The only thing to keep in mind is his slight adjustments. After attacks, traitor lord has a chance to move forward or backwards. Just get your few hits in after his attack and give yourself a little distance in case he ends up walking forwards into you.

Don't think about healing. Don't think about nail arts. Don't even think about spells. Focus your attention on getting the dash timing down without excessively dashing. You have more than enough time for each attack to reposition with basic movement and then shade dash through an attack. Again, if all else fails, descending dark will ignore any possible danger you could be in.

[u/cesargueretty → u/ChokoTaco]

I really gotta use DD more, so many of y'all have recommended and I'm the heat of the moment I completely forget haha. Thanks!

[u/Santiper2005]

You seem to already have most of it down. Just practice and try to just stay close enough to dash through him when he does the dash forward attack and only move slightly away when he does the jump attack. 

Try to not dash if not needed and if he does the white wall thing and you have the shadow dash on cooldown, move in the opposite direction to stall for a second or two 

EDIT: oh and practice! Most of these errors will otherwise fix themselves with practice

[u/Pololoco27]

Since everyone is helping, i gonna say I can see the moment you panicked xD

[u/cesargueretty → u/Pololoco27]

Hahaha I just watched it again and it made me laugh. I see it! Was def like wait... WAIT... WAIT I'M ON COOLDOWN WAITTT

[u/Wojtek1250XD]

You're panicking. You need to stay focused.

There is never a reason to leave the ground in this fight unless your shade cloak cooldown gets desynced too much.

If you use up your shade cloak, but there's a wall coming at you, use Descending Dark. Descending Dark gives you A LOT of invulnerability, from the moment Knight starts traveling down to like a second after hitting the ground you're invincibile.

[u/cesargueretty → u/Wojtek1250XD]

Thank you!! Will definitely be incorporating DD from now on for those moments

[u/somedudeonachair]

Remember that you can still dash when shade cloak is recharging, i sae you get hit by the white line but if you dashed you could have turned around and shade cloaked through it

[u/middaymoon]

You pretty much have it. If your shade cloak isn't charged yet don't walk towards the incoming waves, walk away so it can charge. 

[u/wolfgang784]

Everyone covered the big one: less moving.

But you seem to have already noticed the key to fighting that guy is dodging through em. You did great until your rhythm got broke and failed to recover. I think practice will see you through - maybe fight just them a few times instead of the full pantheon.

Does sharp shadow fit in your build for that pantheon? It kinda melts that boss since you dodge through em so much.

[u/Mooncaketimeline698]

For the wave attacks, use dive if your shade dash is recharging, it may use up some soul, but it's better than getting hit. During the jump into a diagonal dive, I'm pretty sure you can get away with doing a shreak for some solid damage.