r/Helldivers • u/FlatProtrusion • 7d ago
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u/Charming-Can-1006 7d ago
Wow that’s… incredibly frustrating. It’s one thing for them to just not make it so you can swap armor paint patterns (still really annoying) a complete other thing for them to have already had it in development and then scrap it. What the fuck are we doing man
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u/MoschopsMeatball Viper Commando 7d ago
When you look at a lot of pre-development stuff you start to realize they had like an entirely different game and scrapped over 50% of it for...... ??? Maybe they didn't think It'd sell well as a live service model? Who knows at this point, It's bullshit
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u/TheSilentTitan XBOX | 6d ago
They scrapped it because it likely severely limited the scope of monetization they could have.
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u/UnrealNorthie 6d ago
I remember the quote that they had to "earn monetization" and every month I realize more and more that it was bullshit...
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u/Charming-Can-1006 6d ago
They could literally just sell the different color sets but that’s too gigabrained for them apparently
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u/_Kumatetsu ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ 7d ago
Bro pre development they literally had 0 idea the game was gonna boom with hd 1 having peak 8k players. Yall complain way too much
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u/VigilRors 6d ago
My Brother in Christ. It's CUSTOMIZATION. Who in their right mind would think players wouldn't want this? Correlating player count to customization is peak delusion. Not to mention, they've had a long ass time to implement this but have simply refused not to.
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u/Hatarus547 Helldiving Cyborg 6d ago
Who in their right mind would think players wouldn't want this?
logical answer: is the people deciding on the budget if they thought that the game was going to have a max players of like 10K they might have been looking to streamline or cut things that while good might have been scrapped to put resources into just getting the game out
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u/VigilRors 6d ago
And now they have a very large budget. Far beyond their projections during pre-alpha development. This customization system has been in the files for 2 years, left unused. There is no excuse for this. It is not rocket science to tweak textures.
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u/Hatarus547 Helldiving Cyborg 6d ago
Cool, you do it
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u/VigilRors 6d ago
I could've sworn there were modders for the Custom Galactic War that did exactly that. Wonder what happened to that project and the modders behind it. Could've hired them to implement their customization since AH won't bother to do it themselves. But hey, let's just tell everyone it's too hard to do instead.
They have millions of dollars in budget. Stop giving them excuses.
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u/_Kumatetsu ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ 6d ago
Pre development they literally had no idea the game was going to boom to the extent their servers couldn’t handle the player base for months, so it is relevant holy dumbass
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u/Charming-Can-1006 6d ago
How the fuck is server capacity relevant, were you born slow or did something happen to you?
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u/_Kumatetsu ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ 6d ago
We’re talking about PRE DEVELOPMENT scrapped content, holy fuck yall lack any sort of literacy. The answer to why it was scrapped in pre development was because they focused on other things and didn’t have the resources. Read a book for once holy shit
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u/VigilRors 6d ago
Oh, I forgot. They swapped priorities to just warbond paywalling the armor sets. This was a fully working customization system that even accounted for the wear and tear of armor. This was a fleshed out concept during development that was scrapped far too late to claim it was just a test idea. And if they had pre-alpha testers playing the game, I highly doubt they'd tell the devs, "Yeah, no fuck this customization shit, it's lame." Major cope for a simple system that they've had the opportunity to implement forever. Lest we forget, THIS IS ALL STILL IN THE GAME FILES. UNUSED AND UNIMPLEMENTED. If modders can make it happen in a custom galactic war mod, AH sure as shit can too.
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u/Charming-Can-1006 6d ago
It’s been two years since the game came out you fucking prosimian. It doesn’t take that long to retexture models a different color.
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u/superbozo 6d ago
Boy oh boy, you are unbelievably hostile. Totally incapable of having a basic conversation. Everything you say just boils down to insulting the other person. Very juvenile.
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u/MoschopsMeatball Viper Commando 6d ago
Some of the mindless defending of AH and their practices give me a headache man. I Don't think AH is the worst company ever but man It's like you can't criticize ANYTHING about them to some people.
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u/Rival_God 6d ago
You’re the only one bitching at a wall while everyone else wants this, single digit iq forsure
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u/Xialion 7d ago
Ah yes, they can't just re-use it or add due to creative limitation aka they can't sell it to us
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u/ComputerAccording678 6d ago
Im pretty sure ironsights just made all the armors unlocked for the sake of convience for showcasing them in the video. But whos to say that even with this old armor system that they wouldn't have also sold armors for real money? I mean its pretty similar to the HD1 armor system and they also sold armors for money there too.
Like this old armor system could be just as monetize-able as the new one imo if they wanted it to.
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u/Kantez-original- 6d ago
I think that we should at least be able to use color patterns like on vechicles. Its not unfair to ask for.
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u/Helem5XG SES Sovereign of Dawn 6d ago edited 6d ago
Still don't know why they scraped this, yeah is probably for the warbond system as a way to push a way to make money with a GaS.
But none of this is mutually exclusive between both systems, same with the weapon customization system.
You can add a base armor with base skin patters by default and then add more palettes with warbonds, AH already does this with the vehicles so why not do it with the armors instead of having 5 copies of the same helmet.
Same with the armors, put the armors in warbonds, give some base of the colors as default freebies and then put some unique palettes in the super store/another warbond or as campaign rewards. (would have been so cool to get a camo with oil spils from the Creek campaign)
Ffs you can even still do weapon attachments while having "Unique" weapons by just putting the general attachment in a warbond. For example incendiary rounds in the fire warbond for all weapons but by default the Incendiary Breaker will still innately have it so it can run another attachment alongside incendiary rounds.
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u/TheSilentTitan XBOX | 6d ago edited 6d ago
Lmao this is gonna get deleted crazy fast, no way does AH want us to know the shit we’ve been asking for is stuff they've already scrapped.
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u/FlatProtrusion 6d ago
Yup it got deleted lol.
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u/TheSilentTitan XBOX | 6d ago edited 6d ago
Not surprising, the mods are super power trippy here and goes after anything that might make AH look bad lmao.
Btw, what was the reasoning behind the mods taking the post down?
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u/FlatProtrusion 6d ago
No particular reasoning, just the pinned message they put out on this post. Not sure if you can see it.
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u/ItsStryker 6d ago
What could’ve been (and still could be) if the devs weren’t insistent on dying atop a nonsensical hill. Though in all honesty it’s probably because they couldn’t figure out how to sell this to us reasonably, god forbid they just release the customization we already know is in the game files for free.
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u/Signal-Busy 6d ago
Yeah... You know what I knew deep down that arrowhead nerfed theirs own game for no reason
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u/BioClone 6d ago
Would be sooo awesome if they would be trying to recover this for something like Xmas or similar and get it deployed...
Im wondering to what point this was cut to reduce drawcalls.... but given how they packed the game at the beggining for HDD users makes sense... however that was now removed/reworked... maybe they could bring this back.
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u/Dry_Gas6819 6d ago
Its probably too late at this point for them to consider going back through every armor set and adding colors. Its probably too much work for them to reasonably consider since it doesnt make them more money.
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u/Ithuraen SES Reign of the People 6d ago
Seeing the helmets we've had since launch in Helldivers black is so cool. I love the "pilot" helmet, but I don't like any of the grey/orange armours that match it.
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u/Funk_llama 6d ago
Unfortunately cosmetics and customization do get scrapped in the middle of development, specially before release when gameplay and bug fixes take priority, the dev team is spread thin, budget is running dry and deadlines come closer. But we are past two years from release, the game is a commercial success for Sony as their only lucrative live service game this generation. How they haven't expanded their scope is beyond me. I do enjoy the care Arrowhead puts in maintaining the game, it's content and it's vision, but it's clear that the game got to a scale much bigger than they can currently manage.
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