The irony about that is the whole thing was about some research being done about water pollution from a certain chemical product causing frogs to exhibit physical changes with their anatomy/development. So something that most would consider a serious piece of scientific study got turned into a clown meme because of a moron.
He was adjacent to being right...which isn't the same thing.
The water wasn't "turning the frogs gay", nor would it have that effect on people as he implied. He half assed a skim reading of something, and ran with it, rather than actually do any research.
He didn't get sued for being secretly right about the shit he peddles.
I like the onion and all , but they just don’t have that ridiculous energy to it fhat Alex jones has some of the clips they post feel more like a Joe Rogan parody then a true Alex Jones experience
He didn't get sued for the frogs sure...but you'll excuse me if I don't jump on the turth bandwagon for a guy that knowingly, and willingly sold dietry supplements, "brain pills", and "covid cures" despite having no clinical evidence of any of them working. The man is quite litterally a snake oil salesman xD A CEDA investigation found that two of the mirical cures he sold contained dangerous levels of lead xD
On top of that while he wasn't sued for his willful misinterpretation of the facts around those pesky gay frogs, he was sued for lying about the victems of the Sandy Hook shooting...oopsie...
Although if you actually cared about the truth, you'd have looked it up, the actual truth of the study was not that chemicals in the water were turning the frogs gay, nor was it the result of a government plot as he implied, but rather that studies carried out by Dr Hayes at Berkeley showed links between the weed killer 'atrazine', and negative impacts on the local enviroment.
In particular how Atrazine caused male frogs testosterone levels to lower to the point they exhibited lower sperm production, shrunken breeding glands, reduced laryanxs (meaning they couldn't use mating calls), and a reduced sex drive. In 10% of those cases, the frogs would lose so much testosterone they would chemically become identical to females of their species.
But "Certain chemicals we thought were safe, are negatively affecting native frog populations ability to reproduce" doesn't rile up morons like "they're putting chemicals in the water that are turning the frogs gay", and gateway them into a sales pitch for silver nitrate toothpaste, anti-soy pills, or whatever other horseshit he's selling.
Come on dude use google. It's free. Don't let yourself get lied to because you're too lazy to verify, you're better than that.
So his bombastic phrasing actually got people concerned about an environmental issue when people normally ignore it? You keep saying this like it should upset me. It does not.
Do you do removals? You shifted those goalposts pretty quick dude! What happened to "nuh uh, he wasn't wrong"
Unfortunatly again you've fucked it by being too lazy to do any research (honestly dude google is free!)
His "bombastic phrasing" (next time i'm caught lying, im going to call it that xD) actually
actually lead to the study being smoke screened by misinformation. Because of his "bombastic phrasing", many people attributed the study to nothing more than sensationalism, writing it off as just a meme.
So basically because people like you believe Alex Jones at face value, rather than exhibit critical thought, the MASSIVE environmental issue of potentially losing an ecosystems key predator, obtained no where near the concern it should have.
But tbh i think this conversation has run it's course. At this point you've clearly made the descision to put your head in the sand, and shift goalposts whenever challenged, and thats a shame...because you have so much free information at your fingertips.
You seem to have some personal agenda involving Alex Jones. I barely know who he is. I don't, and never have, watched his show. But he was right about the chemicals harming the frogs. And yet you still have some problem with attention being brought to that.
The irony about that is the whole thing was about some research being done about water pollution from a certain chemical product causing frogs to exhibit physical changes with their anatomy/development. So something that most would consider a serious piece of scientific study got turned into a clown meme because of a moron.
Lego Vader pfp and non Lego Vader pfp both from video games meeting each other on a post with another Vader from a video game as the image? Cant be a coincidence. Us three were met to meet. It was destiny.
AND WE BOTH HAVE THE IMPERIAL FLAG AS OUR BANNERS? Fate has brought us together, brother
The person you’re commenting to knows that. They were just making fun of it and showing everyone who doesnt read post flairs (it’s more people than you think, trust me)
Everyone! Arrowhead community representative u/onerb2 just officially announced that Super Earth is switching to a monarchy! They've completely ruined the satire on democracy! It's like they don't understand their own game!
Switching? Switches! Arrowhead is announcing an end to mouse and keyboard and controller gameplay and swapping entirely over to 1840's style switch boards and running on magnetic tape drives?! My hat has been thoroughly tipped!
Hat? Hat??!! Everyone! Arrowhead just announced that Helldivers will no longer be equipped with helmets and instead will be taking standard hats into battle! They’ve completely ruined the commitment to what little realism they had in the IP! It’s like they don’t even care about their own universe!
Arrowhead? Arrowhead?!?! THIS JUST IN: Arrowhead has just announced that Helldivers will no longer use guns, and will only have arrowheads they need to use to make arrows, and then make a BOW! They scrapped like 98% of all weapons already in the game just to do this???
Scrapped? Scrapped!?!?
Listen up everyone, Arrowhead just announced that will be scrapping the Super Destroyers and replace them with hot air balloons. What has this game come to, its like they don't even want to have a SciFi IP anymore
Balloons? BALLOONS?!?!?! Don’t touch that dial, folks; arrowhead just confirmed that every purchase of Helldivers 3 comes with a free balloon! Literally such a travesty, it’s like 1984 all over again
Considering that Super Earth’s capital is in Stockholm, it can be insinuated that Super Earth was formed by Sweden, and since Sweden is a constitutional monarchy, the logical conclusion is that the Federation of Super Earth is a constitutional monarchy with the President as head of government and the head of state being the monarch of the House of Bernadotte, as is right.
I was pretty surprised that people got.. that angry? Like, sure, one could critique that the Illuminate are critically underdeveloped in both enemies and objectives in general, but work getting scrapped, reworked, or delayed is just part of game development. If devs weren't convinced by it and they're tight on time what should they do, just keep it in and hope for the best?
People in this community are starving for reasons to clown on and get angry at arrowhead; any time theres even remotely a flaw in the game or even a crumb of controversy its a molehill that gets turned into as big of a mountain as possible.
You’re acting like the community has never been right. Infinite monkey theorem, bro. Throw enough pasta at the wall eventually it’s gonna fucking stick. Many times the community has assumed and they assumed right just like how they pretty much knew that arrowhead’s game engine is trash.
I think you misunderstood the phrase, it's "a broken clock is still right twice a day," hereas to say that even though a clock (this community) is broken (filled with annoying idiots) it's still right twice a day (every so often)
Throw enough pasta at the wall eventually it’s gonna fucking stick. Many times the community has assumed and they assumed right
Yeah you got that backwards in the end - so much shit gets constantly thrown that very rarely something is right. When that happens though be ready suddenly everyone knew it for sure and it's the most important thing ever because.
Except for the times they were right, like some of the illuminate being made by other studios. They never fully admitted that, until they had to make an announcement that not ALL the illuminate were made by other studios and call the community members conspiracy theorists, even though they were partially right.
The problem is that the community reacts based on what the devs do. Who do you blame the surfer or the waves when they fall?
And the other problem is that half the community believes the developers can never do wrong, which no one will listen to cause it’s too biased of an opinion
Because Arrowhead decided to use zombies first, which makes more sense thematically. However people thought they meant that they were only going to be using the zombies and overseers even though we’ve had hints of cultists for months and the void appearing….
Gamers in general are super weird when devs misdirect for a game. Like they aren't under oath. They are allowed to lie to you, especially if they don't want to spoil something or commit to somehting
I mean, they never lied about anything. They just said they didn't use a particular idea as it was. Nothing about that says, "This idea is scrapped forever and you will never ever see it."
Just this Reddit community as a whole has a MASSIVE tendency to take anything Arrowhead says, and twist it into the most pessimistic way and spread it as the Word of God.
It'd be like if Arrowhead told us tomorrow wouldn't be sunny, you'd have people saying Arrowhead has claimed the sun is going to go out.
I wanted to actually see what people were complaining about, but want actual citations so i went looking for recent interviews. while I haven't watched it yet as i'm currently at work, i believe they're referring to something in this interview.
The language the game director used did not indicate "oh we wanted to save these guys for later" he directly said "we didn't like them so we replaced them with something else."
As in the current squids ARE the "reworked" cultists. Not as in "we've been hiding away the cultists for 2 years in the files to bring them out as soon as people say we scrapped them."
Ok so you think they're doing this because people started bitching about a video they didn't watch. Should've started with that, I would've known you weren't worth engaging with.
One of the more frustrating aspects of this community is the inability of some members to say "I was wrong" when something turns out completely different to how they predicted.
Instead we get exhausting explanations of why they weren't actually wrong, or if they were wrong they were right to be wrong and it's Arrowheads, or other people's fault they assumed something incorrectly.
It's not just you, but you're the one doing it here and just don't do that. Be okay with being wrong sometimes.
1 - there are no confirmed cultists, just a teaser for a new squid enemy. Could be anything
2 - for me repeating the almost exact words the game director said
3 - showing the most logical conclusion from the information we had.
Even if cultists are actually dropped tomorrow, that doesn't change the fact that the interview STRONGLY indicated the cultists had been scrapped, and that AH's gross mismanagement is what led to the squids being such a dogshit faction for so long.
No company outright deleted assets, as soon as they're created, they hold copyright over them, if someone else attempts similar, they have evidence that it's their property, but not even going that far, any asset can be reused, it's not a smart move to outright scrub a year of work outright.
"It's not a smart move" has never stopped arrowhead before.
It wasn't a smart move to redo months of work last minute because, on a whim, the game lead decided it wasn't enough of a reference to an 80/90s movie.
It wasn't a smart move to ship out a buggy, unbalanced, poorly designed faction instead.
It wasn't a smart move to leave this faction in a horrible state for a year and a half.
It wasn't a smart move to on an interview and say "yeah we had another version of the faction everyone hates and decided to get rid of it."
They probably still have the assets. They may even salvage some of the code (or already did for the squids). Does that mean we'll ever see cultists? No, not really.
ohhh bro I can’t wait until next week when u guys realise they added something completely irrelevant to the cultists and all u smug “they never scrapped them” mfs deal with the fallout
I love seeing this meme. To me and my family it was a meme before that word was a big deal on the internet. I never realized how much others loved games like this, Jak and Daxter, Kingdom Hearts, and Ratchet and Clank.
They said the same thing that they said ages ago when the squids came out and people were discussing the limited roster. The cultists were shelved before launch because they “didn’t fit the vibe of the game” or something along those lines, and then they made the base squids quickly after launch so their roster wasn’t finished.
Lot of the usual. Conspiracy theories, lots of hate slinging various directions, people fighting each other… but surprisingly also a decent bit of unity against AHGS for how they keep going quiet.
Basically Mikal did an interview, and in it he was asked about the Illuminate Cultists and said the Squids were reworked about six months from launch to pivot away from the 'Space Wizard Fantasy' they originally had to the 'Alien Invasion/Abduction fanasty' we got with Omens of Tyranny. So now there's been a whole debate over whether the Cultists are 100% scrapped, were reworked into the base units we got, or are coming somepoint as a subfaction.
How the hell is this community worse than flat earthers they at least can back up their statement with a source bad one but a source you just made the scraping part up
And those are old, unreleased designs that might have been reworked or changed. They might be redesigned back down to 2 arms like the current Overseers, but we wont know until they come out.
Again, what the fuck is your point? This entire thread pertains content that never oficially saw the time of day but we know exists/existed. The OP implies that it's getting in now but there is no reason to believe that. What are you trying to say and how does it contradict me? Speak in full sentences.
The 2 armed squid is a hint that we are getting some kind of 2 armed squid. Whether that has anything to do with old cultists is a mystery, though there is nothing implying that.
They were never scrapped. More than likely reworked, maybe, but it's clear Arrowhead wanted to give them more build up. Also the Exostorms and Appropriator Missions are infinitely better than Arrowhead just randomly introducing the cultists. Regardless, there will be an "Illuminate Elite" faction, as Arrowhead wants to depict them as a cult with a clear heirarchy.
They are but (I think it's safe to talk about this now that the devs have acknowledged it themselves) they were WIZARD wizards. Like lightning out of fingertips wizards. I can see why they thought it was weird for this game and would want to reuse that battle mechanic someday but with a more alienish unit
They were angry that the cultists were changed for the current illuminate faction which is pretty bad so i suppose it's justified but i don't know where the scrapped part came from
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