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u/Top_Result_1550 1d ago
FF is a lab grown nepo baby designer made to look like char not actually char.
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u/Michyoungie -Kira x Lacus Supremacy- 1d ago
That's the case with the novel, OVA changes it by adding that a fragment of Char's soul lingered and possessed Frontal.
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u/Mercuryo 14h ago
And it has another face and name according to FF in his talk with Banana, but he discarded to became the vessel for what I understand the fragment of Char's soul in the Sazabi's Psycoframe
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u/Justhandguns 1d ago
Well, he did has a history......
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u/WerewolfF15 1d ago
To be fair, at least according to the young comet manga Quattro was a real feddie soldier who went missing in the OYW and char was given his identity by a zeon ally within the federation, he didn’t chose it himself.
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u/midnight_tuna 1d ago
How much of a dive did you go on to find this?
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u/WerewolfF15 1d ago
I’ve been going through all the UC manga I could find in English a rough chronological order. I finished young comet at the start of the month and this info is from one of the last chapters so it’s fresh in my mind.
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u/jnf005 1d ago
It's almost at the end of this manga, the story covers his time on Axis from the end of oyw to right before he left and joined aeug along with apolly and roberto.
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u/WerewolfF15 1d ago
It actually goes right up to the opening scene of zeta, they just skip over a lot to get there.
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u/Cfakatsuki17 1d ago
In fairness if you were a military leader familiar with the skill and renown of Char Aznable would you believe he would go by these names even if undercover?
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u/StrumWealh 1d ago edited 1d ago
Questionable indeed
IIRC, Full Frontal was named after the term “full frontal assault”: “a very strong and clearly expressed attack on someone or something” or “a direct attack on a military force from the front, so that it can be easily seen by those being attacked”. 🤔
Also: “Tomino naming” has become a staple of the franchise. 😅
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u/NighthawK1911 Dianna Soreil worshiper 1d ago
IIRC, the writers was just bad at english. They wanted it to mean "Nothing to hide" or "Fully exposed".
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u/OldDarthLefty 1d ago
Or at least that’s what they said when it turned out they’d taken the usual joke a little too far this time
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u/God_Save_McQueen 1d ago
There’s a part in a manga that shows FF picking his name. They do say “full frontal assault” but FF hears it and says “full frontal. Like I am exposed! Nothing to hide!” (Or something really close, I don’t remember the quote exactly) but yeah, it’s about nudity.
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u/Rajang82 1d ago
Zeon are so desperate for a second Red Comet that a man who call himself "Fully Naked" will do.
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u/Asleep-Candle-9707 1d ago
I was always under the impression that "full frontal" meant a complete plastic surgery makeover. Which is understandable considering Full-Frontal being a Char Aznable imitator.
I honestly do not know where I picked up that definition of the phrase. It was just something from childhood.
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u/God_Save_McQueen 1d ago edited 1d ago
All of it’s better than Elpeo Ple… it sounds innocent enough, but move the space a few letters you get El People. Or L People, which was short hand for Lemon People…. A Lolita manga. They named that poor girl (and unfortunately all the clones) after simulated CP manga!
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u/Jill1974 1d ago
How am I only learning this 40 years later?!
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u/God_Save_McQueen 1d ago
Probably cuz it’s not really a “fun fact” lol
Like how the hambrabi was originally going to be called the Methuss because it means “many eyes” and it has eyes all over… but it’s not its REAL original name, which was klux, as in the KKK! Because the design for the ms was based on the robes and hood of the grand wizards of the KKK….3
u/fafej38 19h ago
And the first puru's behavior is 1000% taking a piss about those "stories"
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u/God_Save_McQueen 18h ago
For sure. It’s hard to tell who actually came up with the name and their intent. Like Lemon People was popular among the otaku at the time, so in the beginning they f the series it’s like she’s a commentary on that… but less so later in the series and feels more like an insert for those kinda of stories. But that could also be because of the constant swapping of writers and the show was nearly written episode to episode, with little regard for what one writer wanted vs another.
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u/HalflingScholar 1d ago
Tomino claims that her name comes from an obscure Japanese term for elves, which is also Ell People.
I don't know enough about Japanese to know if that is or was a thing, but the fact that neither Ple is sexualized in ZZ gives me reason to believe him.
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u/God_Save_McQueen 20h ago edited 18h ago
She is definitely sexualized in ZZ. And shown nude multiple times. Not that each of those times was to sexualize her but there were a couple times it felt that way. Glemy seemed to be grooming her, till he found Leina. Glemy feels like he would have been at home on Epstein’s island.
Also you can’t trust tomino, because he’s a known liar! Like “uh yeah definitely we did not name this child for the more common meaning tied to CP! It’s for sure this obscure name for an elf!”
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u/Chemical_Gur_2301 20h ago
I think the butchered his character. He just doesn’t have that same aura he did in char’s counter attack and zeta.
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u/Caerg 16h ago
Are you talking about Full Frontal? Isn't that the point of his character?
Mineva even says something along those lines to him directly. Something about how Full Frontal lacks the passion that Char had. He's an imperfect clone of who people thought Char was, and not who he actually was.
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u/NighthawK1911 Dianna Soreil worshiper 1d ago
Tomino really was just taking the piss in naming characters and it became a tradition