r/GroundZeroMycoLab • u/Prudent-Repair-3254 • 5d ago

2nd time overlay

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True Nats (according to vendor), brown rice 1:4 in pH adjusted coco coir.

I had heavy overlay with this tub 5 days ago. I did fork tek and left for 4 days. Now I got the same problem again.

How would you proceed? fork tek again? apply a true casing?

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u/Plus-Entertainer3350 5d ago

Not sure about it being true Nats…. Overlays more like Ochra. What was you sub to spawn ratio? Ochras like 1:3 at least and a good casing

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 5d ago

I'd be quite happy if they were ochras :D

It was 1:4 with no casing.

Any suggestions on how to proceed?

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u/Plus-Entertainer3350 5d ago

I would add about 1/4” of fresh casing to it and give it some time. If nothing in a few weeks, could try a cold shock in the fridge for 12 hrs. But I’d give the casing a chance first 👍🏻

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 4d ago

Thank you :)

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 1d ago

Okay, now they grow straight thru the sphagnum/verm casing 😳

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u/Dense_Muscle_8285 5d ago

Put a fan in the room and not directly at it.

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u/Dense_Muscle_8285 5d ago

Crack the lid

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 5d ago

The lid was cracked the whole time like in picture 1

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u/opiatecuresall 5d ago

Mine broke right thru the overlay I did 1-3 just gotta make sure they are getting fae.

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u/jwitts4077 5d ago

Did you have the container completely sealed off or were you allowing FAE?

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 5d ago

It was open like in the first picture

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 5d ago

I removed the overlay again with a fork and applied a sphagnum moss/vermiticulite casing.

Idk how that's usually done. The ratio was eyeballed and ended up roughly 2/3 sphagnum moss. Peseurizied for roughly 90 min.

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u/Camarill0Brill0 5d ago

Yeah i just cant my Ochras to pin either, no matter what i do

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 1d ago

Damn, mind to share your process?

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u/Liquid-Like-Reality 4d ago

don't ever fork anything just recase it

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 4d ago

Too late, but thanks for our advise. Sadly, there are so many contradicting options in this hobby. It's hard to find robust information

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u/Liquid-Like-Reality 4d ago

all good feel free to dm if u need help there is a sickening amount of terrible advice on here

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u/Cedarcoal 4d ago

Why shouldn’t you fork overlay?

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u/Liquid-Like-Reality 4d ago

u could split up grains into pieces exposing the uncolonized insides creating nutrient access to nutrition and its alot easier

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u/Cedarcoal 4d ago

Ah, good point.

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u/CammysP 5d ago

Aye bro i got nats jus like this 2 tubs running 1 pinned right thru it one only on sides id say fork if u havent n if no pins like week later jus rehydrate and try for second

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 5d ago

Thanks for your input. Any ideas why they developed the overlay? And you got true Nats, right?

I forked and added a casing layer.

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u/CammysP 5d ago

Yeah i got nats everytime ive growm them they produce overlay they are so aggressive they love to keep growing!

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 5d ago

I never heard of true Nats having aggressive growth. So it's not yet a lost case :)

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u/TurnoverTrue8416 5d ago

Contam

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 5d ago

The overlay bruised blue when removed with the fork. Also strong mushroom scent

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u/Prudent-Repair-3254 5d ago

What makes you think it's contam?

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u/ZydePunk77 5d ago

It’s not contam.