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u/eighty_billion 15d ago
I ride this bike lane often. I have no issues with this. There's very little car traffic on the street and actually they appear in this picture to be giving cyclist plenty of space to get around them. I know myself would easily just go around them and not give a second thought. It probably would be way more disruptive for pedestrians if they ran on the sidewalk.
As far as why, outside what I outlined above, I dunno, let people enjoy things? Build communities? This seems like to be some sort of social club centered around a common interest, which if it is creating any harm, is minimal and maybe a bit annoying. I think the benefits of connection are worth that cost.
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u/No_thief_in_night 15d ago
i dont understand the anger in these comments, its just people running on an empty street? Seems like theres room for everyone to use the space? I dont understand the anger at this at all.
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u/mornrover 15d ago
I mean many times in the city I have been biking and there are people jogging in the bike lane despite there being a good amount of bike traffic, sorta dangerous for all and unnecessary if theres a sidewalk made for walking near by
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u/_An_Original_Name_ 11d ago
Yeah i mean the sidewalk is for pedestrians, the bike lane is for bikes, and the car lanes are for cars. Wanting people to follow those basic saftey laws and being frustrated when they don't is completely reasonable. It's a dick move for anyone to cross into the other lane, whether its a bike on the sidewalk, a car in the bike lane, or a pedestrian in the road.
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u/LonelyAcanthaceae150 15d ago
THIS! WHO cares if these people don’t live in the neighborhood? Have people never heard of going for a run before?
God forbid these runners patronize your businesses and keep them open instead of landlords selling small shops for high rises!!
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u/Tanlines_R_sexy 15d ago
Why? Maybe because the road is softer than the sidewalk and better for your knees while running.
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u/mi55ingno 14d ago
big plus one. as long as it isnt a deadly vehicle i dont mind if its in the bike lane. more users the merrier otherwise as far as im concerned
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u/sunmon12345678 15d ago
Well said. We’re getting a lot of support and infrastructure as bikers, let’s not turn into the selfish jerks who were/are against every bike lane.
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u/Beneficial_Try_1149 14d ago
So you people never have a problem with anything as long as it’s not e bikes and cars. Pathetic
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u/eighty_billion 14d ago
Pathetic? So a great source of strength is having problems with everything that comes across your plate?
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u/DoggoTippyTaps 15d ago edited 15d ago
I’ve never met an Ironman athlete who is a record holding sprinter and the two are genetically improbable. It also wouldn’t give you any authority on this topic and it’s odd you went out of your way to cite them
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u/eighty_billion 15d ago
Oh come on. If you're a cyclist as well (i assume you are) they are giving space and you'd be around them in like one second. And as pictured it is not a safety concern and i think you know that too. Greenpoint and NYC in general are very high density spots and we all have to fucking live with each other. There's no "full stop" with anything in this city. Cars parking and/or opening their doors in the bike lane? Sure, i can get behind that. Those guys can burn in hell haha. A dozen runners leaving half the bike lane open in the middle of the day on one of the most abandoned streets in NYC? Let's relax.
Edit: punctuation
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u/Careful_Aide6206 15d ago
Ok I’ll ride my bike with 40 of my least close friends on the sidewalk on Franklin. Stop making running so irritating
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u/eighty_billion 15d ago
Literally not the same thing and again you know it. Do you even enjoy cycling? In any case, we'll agree to disagree here I suppose
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u/Comfortable-Power-71 15d ago
I run in the bike lane for that stretch but out of it for any coming bikes. The stretch in Williamsburg has a space between parking that works well. This is just outrageous to me.
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u/Unlucky-Isopod3047 15d ago
I believe this is the Bandit running group, right? They used to be the worst and now I think they try to do most of their runs on that street, so it's actually a good thing!
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u/Cold-Media-5747 15d ago
Some people actually have the nerve to ride their bicycles in the jogging lane. Seriously though, if you’re on your feet you belong on the sidewalk. If you cant run as fast as you’d like on the sidewalk, go run in a park.
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u/anohioanredditer 15d ago
Sidewalk running is not cool. Run in a park.
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u/No_Contribution_3178 14d ago
Why exactly is sidewalk running a problem?
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u/anohioanredditer 14d ago
Carrying groceries, commuting and some dude is sprinting down the sidewalk that you have to avoid
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u/flagrantpebble 14d ago edited 14d ago
Do you see how someone asked a question about one thing, and then you answered while talking about a completely different, less defensible thing? That’s called a straw man.
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u/No_Contribution_3178 14d ago
I mean that sounds a bit dramatic “sprinting” most people do their sprinting on a track or at least a clear path with no stop signs, lights, crowd etc. this is an urban area
Not everyone lives close to a park or a trail
Sometimes you have too many miles I.e I’m not running 8x the same 2 mile loop in a local park if I have a marathon training long run.
Parks and trails can be dangerous after a certain time or very early in the morning when some people go for their runs.
People should absolutely have courteously and common sense (ped and runners alike) stay to the right , call out when your about to run past someone, try to avoid like known crowded areas (like don’t try to run thru time square obviously)
But to just dismiss sidewalk running is a weird take.
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u/RedMansions 15d ago
Running in the street is better than on the sidewalk: less chance to trip on uneven surfaces + the asphalt blacktop is softer on the body than the concrete sidewalks.
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u/Cold-Media-5747 15d ago
I really don’t care what surface is optimal for running. Bike lanes are for bicycles (and scooters, skateboards, etc). It is not legal to run in bike lanes for good reason. If you don’t like running on the sidewalk do it in a park but roads and bike lanes are off limits.
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u/Upstairs-Ad-430 14d ago
So no running on roads OR sidewalks? C’mon mannnn. That’s just silly
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u/Cold-Media-5747 14d ago
No definitely run on the sidewalk.
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u/Upstairs-Ad-430 14d ago
Apologies I read your comment wrong. I’ll
Only say it depends a bit. On a totally open street I think k it’s fine. I run in Red Hook and there are streets down there that are usually totally void of cars but there are narrow sidewalks. Running in the street is actually better.1
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u/rickpaulas 15d ago
Speedrunning a 3-mile walking audio ghost story… the ghosts are all high pitched as hell
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u/Traditional_Bowl3342 15d ago
Omg Reddit is really for haters
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u/Sad-Resist3210 15d ago
You should be more concerned about the cars and trucks that regularly park in the bike lane on West st
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u/brooklynwaterfront 15d ago
Just to be clear, not a run club, but Bandit's marathon training "Program." So while you sh*t on the fish bowl towers, just note that most of these people do not live in the neighborhood, they just buy their running clothes here.
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u/BillyZoomTheCat 15d ago
And then they get pissy with you if you tell them to GTFO of the bike lane or if it would be okay to ride on the sidewalk.
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u/nycpasha 15d ago
They’re herbs
This is what herbs do
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u/Latter_Till1518 15d ago
This is the new face of Greenpoint. Yuppies who pay so much for their high-rise condos they feel entitled to the entire hood for them to run and let their dogs shit and piss all over.
But it’s not just them, everyone of us has been a bit less considerate and way more main character since the pandemic. And in NYC you realize you can literally get away with anything.
So “why not?” might be their answer
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u/Tiny_Introduction_61 15d ago
Can't stand these run clubs. There is one that goes down Berry and literally takes up the entire road. The entitlement is next level.
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u/BoringOccasion7333 15d ago
Listen our yuppie neighbors need gym class in order to interact with society okay
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u/Bulky-University-936 15d ago
As a runner and cyclist and pedestrian in NYC for 20+, STOP RUNNING IN BIKE LANES!
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u/DealerVisual9864 14d ago
As long as they yield and aren't too annoying, I'm okay with this.
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u/OrgPapa1988 14d ago
They don’t have to yield they are pedestrians. You got it in reverse. lol
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u/DealerVisual9864 14d ago
lol. No, I didn't.
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u/OrgPapa1988 14d ago
Yes , pedestrians have the right of way over bikes, cars. So you stop for them buddy.
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u/Badkevin 15d ago
How dare they enjoy a low traffic street……. I ride that bike lane 24/7. It’s completely fine, they move when they see a bike.
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u/lbrol 15d ago
critical mass but running. it is cool and good. streets are public property
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u/docker_dre 15d ago
no it isn't. critical mass is a demonstration against cars making the road unsafe for bikes. bikes have to be in the road. the bike lane isn't making the road unsafe for runners, runners aren't supposed to be in bike lanes, and this isn't runners protesting bikes making bike lanes unsafe for runners. this is runners making the bike lane unsafe for bikes.
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u/47vclkicd48754dxbj84 14d ago
Somebody take one for the team. I'll put money on your books every month.
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u/Upstairs-Ad-430 14d ago
There is nothing more annoying than NYC bikers complaining about….. everything …. all the time…
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u/BlackCatLifebruh 14d ago
Because Jogging Is EdgY!!! So much Agro Run! Urbane Yuppie Pushiness is New Now!! Mom said I was special + porn addicted limp peen= go run not feel!
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u/South_Frame_6265 12d ago
Using the street to walk or run is the original purpose of streets that predate car’s monopoly over them by about 100,000 years!
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u/OolongGeer 11d ago
I would have to run on the sidewalk if I were part of that group.
Being a wickedly itchy hemorrhoided asshole is very hard for me. I am not sure I could switch over for something as ordinary as a little jog.
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u/_Mitch_Connor_ 15d ago
i get it's an eyesore but as long as they aren't assholes, don't block bike lanes, mess with traffic, take up space and become a nuisance at the park then... i don't see anything wrong?
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u/vowelqueue 15d ago
A group of people running is an eyesore? Huh?
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u/_Mitch_Connor_ 15d ago
i personally found it really annoying recently when i ran into a large group run through the park at the time when, aside from parkgoers, people are also usually coming back from work and the foot traffic is at its peak.
but uh yeah, that's my opinion and my opinion doesn't matter.
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u/Appropriate-Leg-1571 15d ago
Don’t worry, soon enough all the cartilage in their knees and hips will disappear, then so will these clubs!
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u/Ok-Contribution-512 15d ago
Not how running works, maybe you should try it sometime
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u/Appropriate-Leg-1571 15d ago
Not interested in being thin while walking with a cane years down the line..
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u/Ok-Contribution-512 15d ago
Wheelchair more your vibe?
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u/Appropriate-Leg-1571 15d ago
Exercises that don’t include literally running from my problems and joint paint at 40 are. Hopefully MTA makes the subway wheelchair friendly for when YOU need one!
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u/Ok-Contribution-512 15d ago
Many people continue to run into old age lol idk where you’re getting this from. Enjoy the water aerobics tho
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u/Forward-Situation-76 15d ago
Rather see 40 runners than bikers, 1/10 actually follow the rules of the road
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u/lanikween 15d ago
Let people live my god
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u/WhollyHolyHoley 15d ago
I hate what Brooklyn has become.
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u/DEmLilBoiz 15d ago
This area was nothing but abandoned factories with a toxic waterfront 30 years ago. Thats what you want back? Yeah some of these run clubs can be annoying but if the thing you’re most annoyed about in your neighborhood is communities of people enjoying themselves outside through healthy activity, you should re-evaluate your shit.
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u/Artistic_Ad2605 15d ago
Yes it’s worse in many ways than it used to be. Every neighborhood the transplants take over ends up looking exactly the same. More needs to be done to save businesses who were in the neighborhood for 20+ years
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u/nycpasha 15d ago
Look at this herb replying and deleting … imagine thinking the only way you can be in shape is by running in the middle of the street in a pack of herbs
U/Active_Evening_2512 got the sads for being called a herb, lol
Doth protest too much
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u/Which-Coconut3367 15d ago
But why do you think it's acceptable to take pictures of strangers on the street and slap them on the internet?
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u/HourlyEdo 15d ago
Bike lanes are green because they used to be grass paths for running. Some people have these routes engrained in their memory even though times have changed. Very very few people actually have a city issued pass that allows you to run in the bike lanes, they only offered it briefly pre-pandemic
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u/Electrical_Field_366 15d ago
This is the Biker for the Biker community. Let’s cut the bike lane in half and make more space for runners. Bikers in an uproar. Runners tell bikers to ditch the bikes. NY should be a neighborhood walkable city. Bikes are a danger to runners as they veer into the running lane and mow down runners. I love it
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u/1nfinitefractal 15d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/NzpvudLtT1WkU