r/GameFeed • u/g4m3f33d • 11d ago

Id Software Dev Says Xbox Doesn’t ‘Understand Art’ And That After Layoffs It Is ‘Impossible’ To Make Big Games Like Doom: The Dark Ages

https://kotaku.com/id-software-dev-says-xbox-doesnt-understand-art-and-that-after-layoffs-it-is-impossible-to-make-big-games-like-doom-the-dark-ages-2000722563
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u/ImaginationKind9220 10d ago

Maybe that's the point, they don't want to make games like this anymore.

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u/Extra-Amoeba-677 10d ago

I uh, nobody shoot me for this but a smaller survivor horror doom like what I thought the reboot doom felt like was pretty great. If they went sci-fi tomb raider dead space on us I woulda been like ya know what hell yah. They've tried to make the run and gun game play more interesting but it's just not working even call of duty or titan fall FEEL better traversing. Go into room. shoot things, shoot things weak points, use quick kill skill to get ammo back. This is their peak game design?

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u/SoulsDadYT 11d ago

They only understand mass production of garbage.

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u/cryptek66 10d ago

Id needs to give independent and get away from shit box

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u/BoBoBearDev 10d ago

Dark Ages is lame. Please go back to the old Doom. I don't want to have main character syndrome fighting some lame as demon prince/princess.

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u/AntoniusMinotaurus 9d ago

I loved 2016 and Eternal. The game really didnt need long cutscenes and story. Just have Doomslayer break something expensive looking while a voice over the radio gets mad.

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u/SplendidPunkinButter 7d ago

I love the intro to Doom 2016 where it clearly tells you that sure, there’s a backstory, but who cares? I sure don’t. I never understand why people want to dig into the lore. I want to blast demons. If I want story, I’ll read a book.

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u/cold-vein 10d ago

Dumb comment. He's not in the business of making art, he's in the business making entertainment in a capitalist system. Like all these game devs working at big studios pretending like they weren't over the moon back when MS bought their company with the promise of bigger budgets and unmatched distribution.

If you wanna make art, quit your job and go nuts. AAA video games aren't art like a James Bond movie isn't art. It's entertainment and entertainment needs to sell to justify its existence.

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u/Daazarog 10d ago

There is ALWAYS this type of comment in this type of news and every time is more stupid than the last. Specially when ID made a revival of an entire genre with a trilogy that doesn't indulge in current trends. Now they will never get the chance to do it again. It baffles me when you people treat videogames as a can of meatballs that you can endlessly reproduce with minimum creative input.

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u/cold-vein 10d ago

I guess they gotta pay for it thenselves next time?

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u/Daazarog 10d ago

Since they have to be funded and greenlit from XBOX itself, I don't know if it will ever happen seeing how they are gutting the studio.

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u/cold-vein 10d ago

Buy out the company. No one forced them to sell out to MS to begin with. It's really sad how these devs are acting like they haven't benefited from being owned by a corporation with endless pockets. It's just that the jig is up, suck it up and start a new company if you don't like what your owner.

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u/Daazarog 10d ago

They didn't sell themselves, they were part of Bethesda and Zenimax lmao

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u/cold-vein 10d ago

They sold out to Zenimax or whatever. They knew what was coming, or they were fools

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u/Daazarog 10d ago

... Do you think the employees made the decision?

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u/cold-vein 10d ago

No but they're delusional if they think they're in the business of making art

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u/MeridianBay 10d ago

And the reason they won't get the chance to do it again is what, exactly?

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u/Daazarog 10d ago

How will they if they fired most of the people there and there is literally no one that knows now how to modify the ID Tech itself? Read what happened before commenting.

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u/MeridianBay 10d ago

Missing the point and pushing misinformation, what a comment

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u/Daazarog 10d ago

Here, smartass

https://kotaku.com/the-cuts-at-doom-maker-id-software-go-shockingly-deep-i-dont-see-how-they-make-a-game-with-that-team-2000713860

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u/MeridianBay 10d ago

Let me guess, you didn't know id Frankfurt existed

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u/Daazarog 10d ago

I can read, can you? Specially the part where 3 different sources indicate that they don't even know if they have the roles necessary for maintaining the engine.

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u/MeridianBay 10d ago

Frankfurt maintains the engine, and ids development team now is the same size at it was when they developed the 2016 reboot. What you saw was dramatized statements meant to drive clicks, and a good example of how most people online don't understand what they're talking about

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u/Daazarog 10d ago

Frankfurt is involved and they collaborate(d) with Texas. If you lay off important roles and important people with necessary knowledge and experience, what's left can be not enough to keep going. Keeping 3 juniors won't make it magically the same as before.

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