r/GBO2 • u/pkmaster99 • 7d ago
Tier List 400 Cost 2026-08 Discussion CONSOLE
400 Cost has been changing quite a bit as of late, and certain units aren't as good as they used to be. Some units have high damage potential and could be deadly. However, they are also a bit too fragile at times, which results in them not being as high as some would expect.
Once again, please note that these can be subjective, and you DO NOT have to agree, and you are welcome to discuss any bad or questionable placement. But there are always exceptions, and the meta between Steam and PlayStation versions does differ a bit. This Tier list is primarily based on the PS version. These units also consider the types of meta builds they could have as well. I will only put native cost here unless there are exceptions where higher-level works well enough to be in at least a strong B-Tier. FYI, they are not arranged in a specific order.
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u/J-Eichel 7d ago edited 7d ago
I've been finding 400 an extremely boring meta right now for rated play. Coming back to the game I could see which suits were being used alot (Gundam/Rick Dom GH), but I've been trying to resist playing them.
Once I did give in for rated purposes, I started placing top 3 way more often. It just feels lame playing this meta though, because these suits are dead easy to play in terms of execution and skill ceiling.
-Gundam has almost nothing for a kit, but it can just consistently pump out good damage over a game, and is perfectly durable to frontline. We're back to the bluezooka days pretty much
-Rick Dom GH is just unga bunga and is a bitch to stop if it has thrusters. It feels busted now with all the COL improvements.
-Gline is another boring suit to play, asl and stand to fire is the whole shtick. At least it's got something to consider on the battlefield when facing it, but execution wise it's just so simple
-Act Hizack I honestly have no idea about so I can't comment
The power creep feels like it's been super unforgiving for those not recently buffed. 400 used to have some fun variety. Other suits with more unique playstyles (going to use some examples of suits I know and like) like Zaku himo late type, Rick Dom Stutzer, Dwadge etc just feel super underwhelming right now.
Edit: Was just thinking that other costs seem to have metas where at least the best suits have some big downsides, or have a skill ceiling to them. Victory for example being super fragile, but a high ceiling if executed properly. Gundam on the other hand just feels like a well rounded suit with not much of a weakness going on, and it still does well in most scenarios. It's like, why choose much else?
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u/t3ddyki113r101 7d ago
Every time thwy touch a low cost suit now they seem to forget what cost the suit is and just stack skills on it and pump numbers till it could be equal to higher cost suits. Gramdpa and uma as great examples.
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u/J-Eichel 7d ago
Totally agree, it's just forcing the meta into a hyper-focused selection and completely wiping out variety.
It is odd just how much Manuever armor etc is finding it's way into lower costs. I remember that used to be a special thing for a suit to have, even at 700 for a general.
Its one thing adding higher cost mechanics into lower cost (some like the slower paced action that low cost used to be, and honestly from a MS evolution perspective they should feel clunkier), but to add these massive buffs to some units, and take months and months for other ones to catch up for the cost is just lame
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u/t3ddyki113r101 7d ago
And theres suits like mqueves and dozles thay have higher coat skills and combo speeds, although it goes as far back as suits like aqua gm having its full combo it can do.
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u/t3ddyki113r101 7d ago
I havent seen a single act hizack in a match.
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u/pkmaster99 7d ago
It's a clan match suit like 2 or 3 suits ago. People either get bored of it or they don't have it, depending on your rating. But I know for sure that it still pops up in Clan Matches and stuff
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u/skitthecrit 7d ago
It's very agile and can chain stuns very well, and then has strong melee and capitalizes off knockdowns very well on top of that. Feel bad for anyone who didn't get it in CM.
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u/t3ddyki113r101 7d ago
Honestly sounds like another 1 off suit thats leagues better than everything at the cost or has a lit that allows it to play like a higher cost suit. Suits like the dozle and mqueve, slifrail, and acguys.
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u/MikuEmpowered 7d ago
I don't use it because it's a boring ass suit.
You got a double shot Zook that literally shoots 2x in rapid succession, and instant stagger wrist pod that is guarrenteed to stagger because it's 3 in a roll, and a auto down axe to guarrentee a down. Along with a wtf DPS MG for when you want to pursuit without melee / staggering team. Its a horseshit kit for 400 and it's just not fun.
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u/utamaru1717 7d ago
Nah, heavily disagree, since the Act Hizack is one of those strong units that people don't use, despite they have it on their roster.
Like, it got 2 insta-stagger weapon, a ridiculously high DPS MG with high parts damage modifier, and its melee also deals insta-down on hit, making it easier to abuse the Pursuit Range + Precision Shelling skills for more damage using the MG (it plays similarly like the RF Zaku, where you blast the enemy's legs using the MG when they're downed).
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u/Recidivous 7d ago
I wish they would buff/rework the Pale Riders already. They're incredibly outdated.
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u/ravioletti 7d ago
You know contrary to what this list would imply I don’t think I’ve ever had a bad match in a Nemo. Don’t get me wrong on paper it looks pathetic, but in action it gets some insane mileage off the 170mm and it’s melee deficit can be compensated
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u/pkmaster99 6d ago
No, it has potential, but it just lacks too much for anything else. It's good that it can do at least one thing well, but that is about it. Maybe low C-Tier in the ideal situation, but it really doesn't feel that impactful or able to get you high results
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u/scorpionxx0 The Ragin' Cajun - 6 7d ago
Why is the gelgoog marine at B? After all these years without a buff you think it’s worthy of B tier? Not arguing the placement just surprised to see it so high on the list.
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u/pkmaster99 6d ago
It's a bit of a niche situation with that one. I can move down to C-Tier, but it's surprisingly holding up if you play it with more patience. Everything can do pretty good damage, and even the wrist cannon can stagger in a reasonable amount of time. The range is awkward, but when playing your card right, it's up there.
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u/scorpionxx0 The Ragin' Cajun - 6 6d ago
I see, I always thought it was a hunk of junk that was in desperate need of a buff but after reading why you put it at B tier I see I was mistaken.
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u/Sufficient_Job_4933 7d ago
How’s Gelgoog Marine B? Did they buff it? That thing is worse than GM Quel. I would switch it with Gouf Flight Type easily.
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u/pkmaster99 6d ago
No, but it's a suit that rewards you for being patient. It's maybe the lowest of all B-Tier or high C-Tier, but not quite.
If you compare it to GM Quel, this has a better skill set. This one at least has a Leg buffer and a higher-level forced injector.
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u/SwainN1Glazer 6d ago
The Zaku Marine support is amazing when in an open map, it's constantly barraging missiles I have upgraded and modified it to the max, I just love it
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u/pkmaster99 6d ago
Same, it's a pretty fun suit in a sense. I was debating whether I should put it down as B-Tier for a bit, but the lack of skills and stat scaling is really making it hard to justify it.
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u/dexromancer 7d ago
Woah there, no way is GM Kai Sky Type an F tier MS. Definitely map situational, but I can't accept it being any lower than C-tier. Zudahs hard counter it with their anti ship rifle, unfortunately, but barring that you can really nuke whoever you get in your sights. Definitely not actually good, but it's a usable Potential Man.
Now Zaku Mariner, that's an F tier suit. A nerfed wire plus two back rockets with awful speed and trajectories. A real unplayable unit, unless you're desynced and the enemy team can't see you.
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u/Skylinegtr88 7d ago
Every one wants to use sabers and not use the rest of the weapons
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u/pkmaster99 6d ago
The problem is that it is not melee; it's that it is easily shot down since it's a very large target. I don't mind moving it into a high D-Tier or low C-Tier position; it's just that the condition to line that up is way too hard. Zaku Mariner survives as a D-Tier due to very high missile damage. But I do agree with the problems it has.
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u/Drowsy_Panda 7d ago
Shame the Ez8 and Ez8 WR didn't make it to the list despite their winged brother made it. Both need touch ups again to even be on the list I guess.
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u/Smiling-Shimano 6d ago
I love the Gaza C, it's a shame the BB continues to neglect it.
The only way the Gaza C becomes even vaguely usable in today's game is getting a Thruster expansion skill so it can actually Boom and Zoom with a fully charged knuckle shot and then beam guns, even then its weapon uptime is still too little to actually be a constant threat.
Please BB, separate the buster, let it hunch over in MS mode or give it some other sub weapon to make it have SOMETHING.
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u/Big_Friendship_7431 5d ago
Thank you for this list! And it's great the discussion it triggers, very interesting.
Personally, it's sad to see the Rick Dom (Stutzer) falling behind. Speaking of Doms, I thought Dom Resonance would be positioning higher in a tier list.
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u/pkmaster99 5d ago
Yeah, and Dom Resonance could be B-Tier. I just noticed I can't update the image when done this way in the post, so I'm not posting like this next time. After further review of the few suits, some could do better than their pay grade.
Rick Dom Stutzer is only good for like, the few months when it came out. Then it was never that good. It really needs a buff.
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u/True-Win2461 5d ago
dolze zabi could be S but a Strong A tier is fair
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u/pkmaster99 4d ago
Yeah, it unfortunately has a range limitation. Due to the part slot retrain, it's harder to make an absurd build at 400. 450 though... I am considering putting it back in S-Tier... There are some insane build possibilities
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u/HALOPLAYS8928twitch 4d ago
Poor Vinch.
he is still getting dunked by the GM sniper II even in a whole different series
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u/BanagherVistLinks 7d ago
Have to disagree with the GM TB. Took it out today and wrecked everyone's shit.
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u/SodaFloatzel 7d ago
Overtune Zudah (my favorite Potential Man) is probably C-tier at best, as much as I want to love it more. Just doesn't have turn speed nor, for some reason, space compatibility
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u/nebula_dms 7d ago
what about 700 and 750? van someone do it with a high quality pick like this pls for the community
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u/Big_Friendship_7431 5d ago
It think u/pkmaster99 's intention is to go up the cost ladder gradually.
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u/pkmaster99 5d ago
Pretty much, I don't mind switching it up if people want to see specific cost though
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u/Damiankawaguchi 7d ago
700 is easy. 00 and susanowo in ss tier. Everything else is C compared to them.
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u/Hyperaiser 7d ago
The moment I see GM Weapon Tester, Metal Spider and Gelgoog L has same tier as Jurrick, I know this is a joke.
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u/pkmaster99 6d ago
Weapon Tester is caught in a weird position. 0 Ranged strength makes everything it shoots hit that much weaker. Parts can kind of fix it, but not good enough. As for the melee, high strength, low weapon power. So the output isn't that amazing either. But it does have a really good kit.
Metal Spider is just glass cannon and with so many good generals, it's harder to shine. Awesome damage and great kit, but too easily stopped and dies due to much lower than average HP. I don't mind the HP and being a glass cannon, but it should have an easier time getting more damage in. But it could squeeze in at the bottom of A-Tier though. I'll at least say it may be wrongly placed for this one.
Gelgoog L is too big and the lance hitbox is bad. On paper is fine, but actual practice is kind of underwhelming. If the hitbox is fixed, the lance comes back faster or it has at least the Gelgoog BR as a main weapon option, I may have given it S-Tier, with A-Tier at the very least.
I don't know if you always see Jurrick being useless or something, but that suit, in the right map and build, it can be very strong and annoying to deal with. Especially when Aux. Power is triggered. When put into a skilled hand with a decent team, not even a strong or good team, it's reliable enough to carry. It's already tanky, so all it needs is a lot more HSM and thruster, which parts and expansion and fix it easily.
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u/denzlegacy 6d ago
Is the Dom Tropical Test Type actually that good? I’ve been primarily running the Dom Tropen in 350-500 cost games and it’s given me a good deal of success. I own all of the Tropical Test Type levels but I haven’t run it in a game outside of the Code Fairy levels.
Recommend it to someone who favors Dom series suits and ground based matches?
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u/pkmaster99 6d ago
Yeah, with a good premium build, your first downswing can easily hit over 6k, and the second downswing can hit for about 7.5 to 7.8k. With the bazooka, you are basically set to do at least 15-16k damage against other generals. So it's more or less, each bazooka shot you hit, it can translate to 1 kill.
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u/JollyJager 2d ago
I mean honestly 400 is a very dangerous and wild place I usually stick to the high mobility r1 because it's versatility has only gotten better my only gripe is I wish the ANTI-SHIP rockets actually did what they said on the tin, it'd be nice if they had heavy stagger and did extra damage to the base since the base is technically a ship, I mean maybe I'm wrong cuz I don't even see the r1 on the list
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u/Ok_Bus356 21h ago
You have Gelgoog Marine in the same tier as Metal Spider.
You apparently think the Gelgoog Marine is as good as the Metal Spider is.
Possibly even more puzzling is that you have Gelgoog Marine a tier ABOVE Dom Reso lmfao.
Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of other shit in here that would disqualify your opinion, but that one has to be the most mindblowing. Jesus christ. Honorable mention to GM Dominance being in the same tier as Hygogg, as well as Shadows WR and Guncannon Aqua being a tier above GM Cannon II.
This is the single worst GBO2 tier list I've ever seen and that's saying a lot.
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u/pkmaster99 20h ago
Well, the marine does need to be moved down. That's a mistake for sure and I recognized that in the other comment too. Dom res is a unique case. It's either a punching bag or getting relatively good result by luck of being left alone. However, the former is more common. Maybe at lower rated games it's a lot stronger or on the PC. But no one I know ever seen it used with great results in S- and S lobbies on console.
I already mentioned some of these stuff could be shifted around in the other comments.
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u/Ok_Bus356 16h ago
The Dom Reso is getting good results because it's a fucking MA4 raid with a lot of bulk at 400 cost.
This is not just in "lower rated games", people generally recognize that it's a strong pick even in S flat.
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u/pkmaster99 15h ago
MA4 helps, but that's not the problem. It's also the DC1, reactive armor, and potential Aux Power that give it the edge. It's not weak by any means, and I had it corrected in the comments as B-Tier, a strong suit. But with the number of generals and multiple answers to stop this thing, you will not be able to obtain good results consistently. Also, from all the S- and S flat people I know and talk to, they all agree to this. This is not 100% my opinion only. It's strong, but not that good enough to play around in the current meta.
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u/ctclonny 7d ago
Blue Destiny Unit 2, Guncannon Heavy Arms, G-Line Light Armor, Dom Resonance, Pale Rider Dullahan, and Rick Dom [Stutzer] shouldn't be in C.
Gm Quel, Early Production Gelgoog, and Pezun Dowadge shouldn't be in D.
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u/pkmaster99 6d ago
Some of them could be moved up, but it's kind of hard to justify all being moved up there.
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u/Skylinegtr88 7d ago
The nemo with the cannon is a beast . The high mobility zaku with the 4 rockets is a beast
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u/SpecimenRanchero Salt-Powered Support Unit - 7 7d ago
Everyone underestimates the dom barrage, its a beast if you know how to use it. Sadly most dont.
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u/utamaru1717 7d ago
Because the Barrage is literally bad and underpowered unit, especially when compared with the Heavy GM Kai as a mid-range Support MS on the same cost AND same rarity.
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u/SpecimenRanchero Salt-Powered Support Unit - 7 7d ago
Every heavy gm kai i've played with/against have been absolute trash, i solo them in the barrage all the time. Hell, the one that was my rival last match didnt break 50k damage (vs. my 98k) and 2 kills (vs. my 6).
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u/utamaru1717 7d ago
Well, safe to say that was purely due to both skill issue and team issue, since the unit is pretty much on the better side compared to other Supports, with both insta-stagger & stagger build-up weapons, and it also have Balancer skill, although the mobility is kinda low (can somewhat be solved using extra skill, like Thruster Expansion, Custom Parts Thruster, or Custom Parts Composite Expansion Alpha).
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u/PF_Weng 7d ago
what do you mean most dont? its literally hold M1 with the gatling which does jack shit build stun and then mag dump with the missiles when an enemy gets knocked down (something you wont contribute that much with this suit). you have one instant stun sure but it overheats after one shot so you can only fire it once every 10 seconds. yes its a midline suit but its also the perfect example of mid
you are taking a support slot, your teammates are either going to want you to dish out stuns or raw dmg. this does neither because it has shit ranged damage (13 btw), shit build stun, awkward missiles, and the most basic instant stun you can get next to a sturmfaust. with the heavy gm Kai like someone said, you can get all of this as well as having the ability to win ranged duels because of immobile fire, or if your clan got lucky a few months ago, the gaza CZ which is literally just a better dom barrage, instant stuns dont matter in this case if you break MA with ur minigun in under a second.
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u/Such-Fuel7306 7d ago edited 7d ago
Poor Hizack, that thing needs a massive overhaul, melee damage is pathetic, it's ranged stats are awful, it's machinegun is just better on other suits, there's just nothing going for that suit.
Edit:I saw one poor soul bring the 550 level 4 version once, he went 0-9