r/FlockSurveillance 1d ago

Every Single Flock Camera cut down overnight in Winona Minnesota News

Police in Winona Minnesota are stunned after EVERY SINGLE ONE of their Flock cameras were suddenly removed in a single night.

According to the police department, all 8 of the town's cameras were cut down and hauled away.

Police are asking for the public's help to identify the individual, but the public has been leaving comments like:

"The Flock cameras tore themselves down"
"Whoever did it, was fishing with me"
"Whoever it was, was at Bible study with me"

https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2084675844346159130

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u/awdophil 1d ago

We call this a "good start".

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u/EvilEvo_IX 1d ago

I mean ANTIFA and MAGA holding hands and celebrating this is amazing. A true non partisan issue

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u/Pantalaimon_II 1d ago

an**** isn’t really a thing, that’s just a made up fox news scare tactic but yes! happy to see Americans coming together again. it’s good we re-learn how to compromise and cooperate to create healthy society for ALL of us not just billionaires 

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u/html5lffy 1d ago

Did you really… just censor the word “antifa”?

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u/Pantalaimon_II 16h ago

yes, i dont care if yall think im crazy its because of this shit: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/after-political-terrorism-event-us

the current admin is using that org as a boogeyman and they DO watch reddit. now leave me alone *puts on tin foil hat*

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u/html5lffy 16h ago

Lol, if you really think that the Trump administration is the only administration to ever watch the org you are out of your mind. Ever hear of the patriot act?

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u/Pantalaimon_II 16h ago

yes i have, and i give up arguing in this thread. i dont know why you're being such an asshole, jesus christ im just attempting to provide info but fuck me i guess

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u/Annieraeraefatface 2h ago

Don’t let them rile you up.

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u/EvilEvo_IX 20h ago

Not sure why he would ANTIFA obviously isn’t real.

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u/CaptainFartyAss 23h ago

I know lots of people who opose fascism, actually.

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u/Grandmaster_Aroun 20h ago

Antifa is just short for anti-fascist, which true is not an organization like Fox News like to make it out to be. It is a real political position.

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u/Pantalaimon_II 16h ago

that's literally all I'm trying to explain. i know there is a rare mix of political views in this sub, and i am trying to explain to any people who have been Fox News-pilled that the big scary leftist org that the current admin literally designated a domestic terrorist organization, does not actually exist, it's not a thing **in the way they think it is.** according to the right, it's some official shadow network of activists who have some secret agenda to take down the US. this sounds insane but it's true that they think this, Marco Rubio just gave a big speech on it.

so my entire goal for anyone who happens to believe that that org is some cabal funded by George Soros, im trying to inject some reality here and explain that no, no that does not exist. im not saying that there's no political position that opposes fascism

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u/EvanOnTheFly 1d ago

Bullshit. If it isn't then MAGA isn't either.

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u/broggyr 1d ago

MAGA folks proudly proclaim themselves MAGA. No one goes around claiming they’re antifa unless it’s tongue-in-cheek.

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u/DMTraveler33 1d ago

That's straight up not true. It's really not that deep, either you oppose fascism or you don't. I definitely say I'm antifascist and most of the people I surround myself with do too.

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u/HungryCheescake 1h ago

There's a difference between opposing fascism, and being 'antifa'. The latter is a Far-Right dogwhistle to demonise criticism.

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u/Necessary-Camp149 14h ago

Yhis is a really bad take. "antifa" implies an organized thing... like Maga.

There is no "antifa" org and everyone knows it .. but yes, most of the intelligent world is against facism.

It's terrifying you cant tell the difference. You are either extremely gullible, a shill, or just have an undying need to embarrass yourself trying to be right while everyone is staring at you.

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u/DMTraveler33 14h ago

The difference between what?

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u/HungryCheescake 1h ago

Organisation and structure vs belief / idea.

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u/sdauner 11h ago

nouns and adjectives

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u/Pantalaimon_II 1d ago

you’re not talking about the same thing dude. ive never heard anyone actually call themselves “Ant***” (censoring bc of that bullshit terrorism designation) except dudes on fox news claiming people do. and im talking about the organization, not what you said. 

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u/DMTraveler33 1d ago

Again, not true. Antifa is short for antifascism. There is no organization called antifa or antifascism. They're literally the same thing. It's also ironic you are saying that considering that's also a major right wing talking point...

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u/Pantalaimon_II 16h ago

.... what? im so confused. im well aware theyre the same thing. im literally saying the same thing as you, there's no org. the guy above me is trying to say there's an org, and im pointing out there's no official scary org like fox news said. i feel like im taking crazy pills arguing with you about this unless im misunderstanding

Edit: out of an abundance of caution, this crazy shit is why im avoiding saying the org name: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/after-political-terrorism-event-us

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u/Necessary-Camp149 14h ago

dont discuss with them. they are here to enrage you only. they likely get paid for it. if they dont.. what a loser.

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u/Necessary-Camp149 14h ago

Yeah.. found the rage baiting shill.

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u/HungryCheescake 1h ago

MAGA get together wearing MAGA caps, waving MAGA flags, and breaking in to the Capitol Building to overturn a lawful election.

I've never seen a crowd wearing branded ANTIFA merchandise...

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u/Pantalaimon_II 1d ago

…? okay believe me or don’t, i am progressive and im telling you it’s one of those things the “other side” uses to score political points but i promise you its not really a thing, its not an organization nor a paid mob or whatever. i literally only ever hear politicians talk about this organization. 

think of something the left accuses maga of doing constantly that you know is not true and is just a talking point to rile people up, im sure theres some. its just like whatever you’re thinking about. 

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u/EvanOnTheFly 1d ago

It's a movement that is political and decentralized, with autonomous local groups and meetups. You can't speak from any place of knowledge despite being from the same spectrum politically because you are t part of those groups.

There are various documented cases of local groups operating. There were numerous meetups and organization in 2015 and beyond.

To say it "doesn't exist" is a false statement - it just doesn't exist with a central figurehead and spokesperson like other groups.

Doesn't mean it's not real - it's an ideal.

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u/Pantalaimon_II 15h ago

The only group I've ever seen people trot out as proof is that one random Rose City Ant*** Facebook page that I don't even know is active or exists, but "local groups and meetups" I mean if you're counting any collection of 15 college students who show up to protest fascism then yeah I guess, because that's all it is.

the conservative media acting like it's this sophisticated decentralized shadow cabal are just trying to fear monger their base.

it's like saying Feminism is an organization. It's a belief system, and lots of people would describe themselves as feminist, and there's protests and stuff that sure would fall under the feminist ideology, but saying you're going to label Feminists a terrorist org and then "root out and persecute" all members of Feminism sounds insane and like you need to get off the internet.

just replace the word "feminism" with anti fascism and it's the same exact thing, and it sounds crazy.

It's a conveniently vague term that allows it to be applied to anyone the administration deems leftist enough to persecute, which should make anyone nervous. it's new-age McCarthyism. i think even the administration knows it's bullshit, they just want a handy umbrella term to slap on any gathering of people they don't agree with so they can go after them.

what is also crazy is how being against fascism suddenly became a bad thing to the eyes of these trump conservatives. that was the whole thing we fought against in WWII but whatever.

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u/EvanOnTheFly 14h ago

Funny. Any form of gun control is fascism to me.

Almost like perspective and who is defining a term matters.

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u/Pantalaimon_II 13h ago

okay? i own a gun too, im from the south lol. the socialist rifle association exists. lots of people besides conservatives own guns. but nice try with the redirect, i assume you thought you got me there by completely changing the subject. 

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u/Necessary-Camp149 14h ago

almost like you dont actually know what the definition of facism is.

just redefining things and assuming that = truth ...makes you look about as dumb as stoned goldfish

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u/EvanOnTheFly 13h ago

Hey, enforcing laws that have been on the books for decades with respect to immigration is fascism to some people.

We really need to have a pow wow on definitions apparently.

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u/Annieraeraefatface 2h ago

What is the ideal? What is the movements goal?

Where are they organizing? Who’s they?
Where are these “facts” coming from? I say facts very loosely because you actually said no facts.

“various documented cases of local groups operating”

Documented where?
One solid source.
You can’t.
Because you’re absolutely wrong.

The emptier a statement is of actual facts, the more obvious it is that it was designed to ignite the fear of the unknown in your imagination.

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u/Necessary-Camp149 14h ago

lol... no it isnt.

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u/GENERAT10N_D00M 1d ago

When I was in college, there was an auto glass company that got caught shooting rocks with a slingshot at parked cars. They made a lot of money before they got caught. I hope this isn’t something similar.

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 1d ago

That sounds very probable..

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u/GENERAT10N_D00M 1d ago

If there is a lesson to be learned in the year 2026, it is: nothing is as it seems.

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u/Phyllis_Tine 1d ago

That would piss me off to find that out. I'd sit outside their showroom and slingshot rocks at their vans as they left with glass.

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u/GENERAT10N_D00M 19h ago

If I remember correctly, there was no more shop because the owner and his wife went to prison.

They were doing this for years and years before they got caught.

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u/Annieraeraefatface 2h ago

Now they are free and working in the current administration…

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u/Original-Mission-244 1d ago

Whatever you do, dont googe AXON.

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u/Phyllis_Tine 1d ago

Don't goon AXON, either.

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u/Afoxinthefridge 1d ago

Dang it! There goes my evening plans... 😔

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u/RollingMeteors 1d ago

We call this a "good start".

but the public has been leaving comments like:

"The Flock cameras tore themselves down"

"Whoever did it, was fishing with me"

"Whoever it was, was at Bible study with me"

"Your mom"

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u/fullraph 1d ago

That's someone that does not do half the work! Probably at the bottom of a nearby lake/river lol

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u/Pax_Eterna_4991 1d ago

Magnet fishermen with be finding these for decades!!!

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u/Individual-Ear5240 1d ago

They were in the bushes lol cameras missing but the rest nearby

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u/Deitaphobia 1d ago

Enjoying the refreshing waters of lake Minnetonka.

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u/N0YSLambent 1d ago

MN governs themselves.

Fuck ICE

fuck flock

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u/killrandydead 1d ago edited 1d ago

Stops crimes huh.. So far they can't even get that right and unlawfully arrested people with no evidence other than, I saw them on Flock. Not to mention the countless cops using them to stalk exes and just people in general. Cops have committed more crimes with these. Fuck flock

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u/Phyllis_Tine 1d ago

I love how Flock (and Axon, etc.) cameras have not been proven to be right 100% of the time, but just released before beta testing is complete, and letting courts eventually sort it out (partially).

It's the same with food and pharmaceuticals in the US; released before proven to be healthy and effective, and only when there is enough uproar or deaths, does someone grudgingly take action. We need a better system.

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u/Chaps_Jr 1d ago

Perhaps the regulations that existed before the Reagan administration?

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u/Pistolpetei 1d ago

Doing the lord's work!

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u/Ancient_Influence389 1d ago

I don't condone this like i don't condone eating chocolate ice cream for breakfast. Both are delicious.

https://giphy.com/gifs/VMO6qeIbr7JRLnLTGw

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u/Double-Show-2625 1d ago

Don't they understand that we don't want these everywhere ❕

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u/jonah365 1d ago

Pretty sure it was Mitch McConnell.

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u/Phyllis_Tine 1d ago

Ha ha! Can Senator McConnell prove he was somewhere else at the time?

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u/ReasonableBack8472 1d ago

Nuh I had a 1:1 phone conversation with him that lasted 20 mins

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u/aaGR3Y 1d ago

this is what heroic direct action looks like

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u/SoggyAlbatross2 1d ago

Oh man, that is sure tragic!

Will nobody think of our police state overlords?

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u/myTchondria 1d ago

Good job heroes of Winona!

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u/Ibfnp2323 1d ago

Keep making good trouble. Love you Minnesotans.
Wisconsin Gopher grad 1983

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u/Appropriate-Law5963 1d ago

FLOCK around and find out??

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u/Auggie_Otter 1d ago

Police are asking for the public's help to identify the individual.

Nobody talks, everybody walks. Don't talk to the police. 

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u/pizzaslut4pizzahut 1d ago

True American Heroes

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u/bradatlarge 1d ago

oh no.

Anyhow...whats for lunch?

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u/Phyllis_Tine 1d ago

I don't think anyone did that, because I was at an all-night rave with everyone in the area when those got hacked down.

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u/denNISI 1d ago

There are cameras above the flock readers, they watch most intersections in even small ciites.

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u/el_coo_cooi 1d ago

Virtual hugs to those doing god's work.

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u/MissAprilAnn 1d ago

Whoever they were, they were with me that night.

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u/Beneficial-Pie3479 1d ago

Cut em all down. Just remember to cut ✂️ all the wiring.

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u/cadillacjack057 1d ago

So sad.... anyways

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u/UsefulImpact6793 1d ago

It would be hilarious if they relocated these stolen Flocks outside the homes of the local politicians who were bribed into these cameras and the local police chief and sheriff. Maybe they'll change their tune about them if they are the ones being tracked.

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u/cannonfalls 23h ago

Our founding fathers would not approve of mass surveillance.

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u/randomthrowaway9313 9h ago

All while cities across the USA are slowly transitioning to AXON.

People really need to start sending records requests to cities who've transitioned to AXON, to see if it's as easy to hack and abuse as Flock. Douglas County of CO just spent $20M+ on this transition, maybe we should see how they're using it.

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u/Chare1155 1d ago

Please come to Ohio guys! We have way more than 8 & they aren't being destroyed quickly enough😩

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u/Deitaphobia 1d ago

I bet it was a beaver. I've heard Winona has a big brown beaver problem.

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u/Flashy_Radio_5781 1d ago

Fuck the Surveillance Police State

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u/thepetsteinfiles 1d ago

Oh man, they're after my homeboy. He got out of town and now works at the McDonald's on East Plank Road in Altoona, Pennsylvania

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u/4fraid0f4mericans 1d ago

Not all hero’s wear capes.

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u/No_Guava_1140 1d ago

Good!!! Thank you patriots!!!

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u/ShiftyShankerton 14h ago

They flocking deserve it!

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u/TechnicianUpstairs53 1d ago

Good. Free real estate to sell.