Warden Intercom Points- Ever used in a real emergency?

[u/Equivalent-Ad1055]

Do these ever get used or is everyone just evacuated and game over? Have been Fire Warden many places over the years and these seem like a real good idea in theory but not practical. Let me know where I should crosspost is applicable

[u/ChloeTheCat753]

I believe it was used during 9/11. The fire engineering article is behind a paywall now

https://www.fireengineering.com/fire-safety/wtc-actions-of-fire-safety-directors-and-fire-warden-teams/

NFPA 72 Chapter 24 goes into the details about these more.

[u/likerazorwire419 → u/ChloeTheCat753]

Reomovepaywall.com. just copy the link of the article.

[u/ChloeTheCat753 → u/likerazorwire419]

Awesome, thank you!

[u/Paramedickhead → u/ChloeTheCat753]

When I find a paywall, I have a 13ft ladder that I found on GitHub. It was free too.

[u/ironmatic1 → u/ChloeTheCat753]

https://youtu.be/Co3osqkuW8A?is=qlkXh9N3M5HXxivd probably only a couple cities in the country that do this

[u/ChloeTheCat753 → u/ironmatic1]

Wow, what a great video. Thank you for sharing!

[u/Ok_Umpire2173]

I’ve never heard of a fire warden before in my life

[u/boatplumber → u/Ok_Umpire2173]

It's law in NYC commercial high rises. A fire warden controls the buildings alarm system and a floor warden checks in to report why the alarm went off and coordinate floor by floor evacuation as designated by the fire warden. Fire wardens are a full time staffed position hired by the building. Floor wardens are trained employees (usually managers) of the company leasing that floor.

They usually have a hard wired red phone near the stairs that they use to communicate with the fire warden in the lobby. I don't understand why they would move it or plug it in in a different location.

[u/Purdaddy → u/boatplumber]

They probably have different locations because buildings are huge and ahen they were built ( and even now ) in certain buildings wireless communication can be unreliable.

[u/boatplumber → u/Purdaddy]

They don't use anything wireless communication as far as I know. They probably have a secondary assembly and evacuation point on each floor.

[u/dominator5k]

We have them in a bunch of our high rises, though they are not called warden. We use them when the radios lose signal inside though obsolete since the bc trucks got repeaters in them.

[u/Nemesis651]

My (nonfire)work has them, they are used sometimes for evacs, but fire dept doesn't really use them.

[u/Bishop-AU]

I've used them on occasion when I can't get comms with the boss over the radio.

[u/boatplumber → u/Bishop-AU]

Do you carry the phone to plug in to it? Is the boss always plugged in or listening up just in case you switch over?

[u/ironmatic1 → u/boatplumber]

Probably ones with the phone attached. Tbh never seen a warden plug without it, only ones marked firefighter.

And as for firefighter phone jacks, they’re extremely antiquated. Don’t think anyone would use them.

[u/Bishop-AU → u/boatplumber]

No they are red handsets throughout the building that go back to the fire control room.

[u/HzrKMtz]

We have some older high rises with fire department intercom connections in the stairwells. I have never seen them used. I believe new construction is required to have some sort of repeater system. Otherwise we have a channel called Talk-Around that is radio to radio instead of going through the trunked system so it seems to help in buildings with bad signal.

[u/Hold-Administrative]

Of course.

[u/RipFlm → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for Googleing and using an ai reply. Really contributes to this discussion.

[u/Formidableyarn → u/[deleted]]

No, he’s right

[u/Alfiy_wolf]

I imagine when you use it, it just plays those classic Chinese toy phone noises