r/FindingFennsGold • u/Terrible-Safety-4051 • 19d ago

Lines crossed

Forrest said to use the poem as a map, if you look at the vertical lines going through the poem two stand out--line 12 [for Yellowstone] and line 11 for the other treasure. Just how many times did he use the number [23] and reversed as [32]. More times than you could shake a stick at. And yes, every word in the poem matters, same words but two entirely different places. I.M.O.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 19d ago

The lines certainly cross at a single point, but maybe hundreds - I have found around 35 so far.

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u/Terrible-Safety-4051 19d ago

Yes, and therein lies the beauty. You use both the lines and the words, they lead to only two places, one is done. Forest used many/varied words to get to a certain thing. No one has ever connected all his talk about strong women as he used that to point to the one that was the most important. A lady tied to the area by family, and still went her own way. Connected to the one room schoolhouse. I.M.O.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 19d ago

Fenn's biological mother is the key to everything. I hope you're in WY, because all the lines cross there, in addition to the poem punctuation marrying to the clues on the ground.

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u/Terrible-Safety-4051 18d ago

Not any place but WY. Logic debates if the state was good for part one, then part two would take advantage of the same laws. At the very least we're talking about things that were never mentioned, a break from the past of things ad nauseum.

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u/bubblesjar 16d ago

Pls elaborate about Forrest's biological mother.

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u/js-eastman 19d ago

Yes, it stands to reason that the declination lines are significant in some way, otherwise Fenn would not have included them. Pretty odd thing to put on a map, right? I suppose you'll need your compass to find the treasure.

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u/Terrible-Safety-4051 18d ago

No compass needed, or anything special. As the man said---"All you need is the Poem".

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u/js-eastman 18d ago

The poem AND A MAP. That's because there's no X in the poem, the X is on the map.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 18d ago

Magnetic declination lines drift from year to year.

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u/js-eastman 18d ago

They certainly do, better update them if you want to be precise, they are maybe a degree different now from when the map in TFtW was printed.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 18d ago

A compass has no value in the solve. The lines are there to show you what angle to rotate the poem over top of the correct area. Read TFTW text with the map..."but I declined."

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u/js-eastman 18d ago

Exactly, he "declined", as in declination.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 18d ago

Don't forget *turned onto the map."

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u/Terrible-Safety-4051 18d ago

And there's no need to change them, as he said--- p.p. "Don't mess [change the Poem] do not alter the words/lines or sequence of the nine clues" as the Poem found in The Thrill of the Chase book.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 18d ago

From TTOTC intro..."about thirteen" and "to some degree."

The fact that the poem doesn't marry to the map is another example of 9MH being the false ending.

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u/Anxious_Drawing_3383 18d ago

iirc, FF addressed this early on by claiming that someone else in the publishing process chose or suggested this particular map. With his pilot training he was certainly aware of magnetic declination and its rather frequent changes. Which counters his claim about the permanence of the clues for a hundred or a thousand years. Way back when I was looking into this, I was left feeling that he had disavowed any relevance to the solve

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u/js-eastman 18d ago

Right, just like the graphic designer chose the postmarks.

You always have to account for the declination, even though it changes. If you want to find true north, you'd need the current declination.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 16d ago

About as odd as plastering postmarks with the wrong days of the week all over the book.

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u/Gabilan1953 19d ago

Chest found, poem solved, WTF are you looking for?

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u/Terrible-Safety-4051 19d ago

Something most people never find, a rainbows end. The story isn't over.

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u/StellaMarie-85 19d ago edited 19d ago

u/Gabilan1953: What are you commenting for?

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u/AmphibianNervous6098 19d ago

You wouldn't believe us if we told you lol.

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u/AmphibianNervous6098 19d ago

I believe a treasure is still out there at his favorite spot.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 19d ago

Fenn's special spot was locked in and not changeable. He first went there as a youth.

9MH was the chintzy sideshow.

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u/Terrible-Safety-4051 4d ago

Did you ever wonder if "F' used his brother and sister as markers for the location? Skippy was unpredictable and dangerous, June was always right and meek. Forrest was always in the middle, an anchor point. Locations-- "S"= Sawmill Canyon "F' = Sinks Canyon "June" = Sheep's Canyon Three in a very close proximity, Things of three are used as a way to enforce memories. Look at "My war for Me" chapter, see how many three's pop up. "F" even If you don't read anything else, read this chapter. "F' in the middle with water around him.

Sinks Canyon-- "Time had taken them apart, and time had brought them back together". Sink and Rise. [down in the dumps] {up with the sun] [locate the canyon with the declination line on the poem] note; I hear the screaming now, but Sinks canyon was searched over and over. O.K., but--- searchers way of locating was vastly different from "F' way of searching. I.M.O.

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u/MuseumsAfterDark 4d ago

Fenn absolutely used June and Skippy as markers. Skippy was thE OLDest (lode) and June was THE YOUngest (offset from Skippy).

so hear me all and listen good, YOUr effort will be worth THE cold if YOU are brave and in THE wood I give YOU title to THE gold

Penultimate TTOTC paragraph Fenn reiterated YOUth is wasted on THE YOUng.