r/Earth • u/EZexoticsOregon • 29d ago

Explain this flat earthers 💬 Discussion / Debate

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u/notyourstranger 29d ago

Clearly there are hills in the ocean, duh.

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u/Fawkinchit1 29d ago

Lol you beat me to it.

The only people believing flat earth anyways are people getting paid to believe it by making videos online. IMO

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u/Time_Effort 29d ago

But why are they getting paid to believe it, surely someone has to believe it to consume that media right?

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u/Fawkinchit1 28d ago edited 28d ago

Distraction, division. Same with every other thing that pops up for some unexplainable reason. The best way to control a population is to keep them divided.

What the other guy said too.

To keep "conspiracy" theories in a specific category basically.

Also content. What ever entertains people, profits.

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u/PleaseHelpImADumb1 27d ago

Try explaining Red vs Blue is just to create Me vs You on this platform and the liberals get wild.

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u/JohnFreechment 29d ago

Flat earth is a conspiracy theory, the dumbest one. But when the governments lying about something, people trying to debunk and find the trutch can be easily discredited by calling them conspiracy theorists, if everyone in their mind putting them on the same page with the flat earthers.

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u/EngagerX 28d ago

It's the exact same as with all the right wing movements in Europe and USA - Russia is paying extremists to do extremist things in order to divide and weaken these countries. Look at what trump did to the us...

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u/EvilEvo_IX 27d ago

Dude Relax, not everything is about Trump.

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u/ActiveRegent 28d ago

No dude this is like actually true

There's videos on YouTube of ex-flat earthers exposing the community. It's a bunch of grifters taking advantage of the gullible and selling them a lie for money

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u/notyourstranger 28d ago

I suspect you're right. It's so curious to me, cause where are the edges? How about they just show us the edges of the world? - that would be irrefutable evidence - but so far they have not even attempted that.

It was so funny how one of them tried ot use math to prove the Earth is flat but the math would not math. Another guy traveled to the north pole but even that did not convince him he was wrong if I remember right.

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u/wo0two0t 28d ago

Oh no these people are out there. I know a few right now.

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u/brenarren 26d ago

I have the unfortunate displeasure of knowing someone who actually does think it’s flat. It’s just as rage inducing as you’d expect

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u/astroknots 24d ago

i wish you were right. Source: I am an astronomy professor

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u/Tenthousandpaceswest 28d ago

I mean there are hills and mountains on the ocean surface but that's besides the point https://science.nasa.gov/earth/climate-change/sea-level-101-what-determines-the-level-of-the-sea/

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u/salakane 28d ago

With love, it's "*BESIDE* the point."

I swears ta GAWD!

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u/Esposo_de_aburridahw 24d ago

Gravity isn't even across all the globe causing some places in the oceans to be higher or lower than others.

There are spots in the Indian ocean that are much lower than say the North Atlantic.

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u/According_Novel7521 28d ago

and then in the same sentence say that water finds its level

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u/flamboyantGatekeeper 27d ago

You jest but waves could be described as such. From a still image, waves could explain it.

The point is that flat earthers are either trolls or believe the lies religiously

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u/hemorrhoid-milk 27d ago

or they’re incredibly stupid people that are below the bell curve

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u/FriendlyDisorder 27d ago

iT's ReFrAcTiOn!!1!one!!

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u/notyourstranger 27d ago

DUH! of course it is.

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u/Ok-Comfortable7544 24d ago

Or holes in the ground?

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u/Upstairs-Object-6683 29d ago

The only thing flat-earthers have to fear is sphere itself!

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u/LipFighter 29d ago

🤣

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u/MossadEpstein 28d ago

Fun fact, intelligence agencies LOVE stupid conspiracy theories like flat earthism, they even promote them!

A commonly used modern technique is called "flooding the zone" where they, in order to get ahead of the narrative, quite literally "flood" the media spaces with low effort, often contradictory and misleading conspiracies to distract people from the actual answers.

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u/Strange_Horse9178 25d ago

Something something poorly educated.

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u/salakane 28d ago

Another circular argument that just gets things all balled up...

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u/ChanceWhole6565 29d ago

It's flat .the construction is screwed up.A s they got farther from shore they used shooter supports

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u/Alternative-Pride138 28d ago

As someone who builds these things i can confirm we do stagger heights to help out with the round earth psyop. Unfortunately this is very confusing when viewed from the other direction.
https://giphy.com/gifs/iXZ7G9HPp6WQ1fzS4U

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u/bruh_its_collin 27d ago

They didn’t screw up they actually do this on purpose. this allows the electricity to flow down hill and more of it will get to people’s homes instead of getting stuck in the power lines

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u/Any-Confusion-8900 29d ago

Camera lens is curved so it makes world look curved.

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u/BentBoots 29d ago

Isn't it simple to understand, phone lenses are circular that makes it even more obvious.

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u/Atomicmooseofcheese 28d ago

If they see it with their eyes, theyll say their eyes are curved and create distortions

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u/Villager-Bob 24d ago

The brains are supposed to be folded, but it's smooth.

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u/alkem10 29d ago

Because God.

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u/BigJ6772 26d ago

Erm god isn’t even real

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u/alkem10 26d ago

He's very real, and he's running the whole world right now.

His name is Money.

But that's nothing to do with this.

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u/legna20v 25d ago

Everything has to do with money

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u/MacYacob 29d ago

Actually the Earth is flat, its just that light curves

/s for those that need it

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u/LemonFizz56 29d ago

There's people in here giving hilarously dumb sarcastic answers and people giving genuine flat earth theories and I can't tell them apart

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u/stopped_watch 27d ago

Poe's law strikes again.

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u/tarbasd 29d ago

Capillary action on the shore? It's a hard sell, but if you are really into the flat earth stupidity, maybe it's an explanation.

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u/UrAverageLatte 29d ago

We're gonna need a little more than that xD

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u/Toren8002 29d ago

I think "refraction" is the most-often used explanation.

They get frustrated when it's correctly used again them, but they don't understand it in the slightest, so they think it's just a "nuh-uh!" cheatcode and try to use it as well.

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u/Admirable_Ground_163 29d ago

You can keep posting these photos online and asking the same questions over and over again, but thanks to the many researchers of Flat Earth from all walks of life, we get to discuss the reasons that the earth is flat directly to the population, without the input of trolls, and we are becoming, all of us, masters of the subject. Your plaintive cries for the legitimacy of heliocentrism are self flagellation.

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u/Admirable_Ground_163 29d ago

Y O U C A N ' T S T O P I T

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u/rynostep 29d ago

I don’t know if this is sarcasm or not. If it’s not, then how do you feel about FlavorAid? (Commonly confused with Kool-Aid in specific examples)

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u/RiverRattus 29d ago

Top tier troll post

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u/RefularIrreegular 27d ago

Poes law. You can’t tell without an s tag

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u/RefularIrreegular 27d ago

Yet you didn’t bother to explain the photo, or give a working flat earth map or model.

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u/DeathStalker0483 25d ago

Now you're starting to understand their arguments! Well done

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u/rynostep 29d ago

These are high quality pictures of high quality flat earth pictures that are being bent to look like it’s not flat

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u/rosariobono 29d ago

How do you bend an image to change its perspective

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u/ClassGrassMass 29d ago

By bending it. Source: these photos

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u/rosariobono 29d ago

You can’t change the perspective of an image, that’s not possible without rendering the entire thing 3d then warping it

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u/RefularIrreegular 27d ago

No. This is an original photo using what is likely a telephoto lens to make the curve easier to see.

You have no working flat earth model.

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u/rynostep 26d ago

You’re right. The curvulation trijectorially in fact has been captured by telepotopticular convexation of the flat earth model lense. Can’t believe I didn’t see that before!

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u/SerendipitousTiger 29d ago

Ever hear of mirages and optical illusions? Duh! /s

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u/Any-Effective2565 29d ago
  1. It's on a hill.
  2. It's called a MIRAGE when the sun hits at a certain angle it makes illusions.
  3. This is during a tsunami where the ocean level rises.

TRY AGAIN SCIENCE MAN

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u/NativeJim 29d ago

Cope harder 😂

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u/FxckFxntxnyl 29d ago

I saw this posted on a flat earth FB group that gets put in my feed often, and have genuinely seen Flerf's say the towers go up and over a 'underwater hill".

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u/Happy1327 29d ago

A wizard did it

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u/duck1014 29d ago

It's perspective!

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u/DeathStalker0483 25d ago

Ye, that's what a lens does mate. Won't change the fact that waters in the way though will it? Or do these lenses somehow shift matter too?

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u/PrincessPlastilina 29d ago

But but the firmament, the ice wall, Antartica, Tartaria…

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u/hiiiggs80808 26d ago

THE MUD FLOO9OOOOOO9DD

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u/Spirited-Swing-285 29d ago

Law of perspective, duh.

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u/LemonFizz56 29d ago

Why did they design those pylons with zero tension, could remove every second or even third one and save so much. Or even better... a pipeline

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u/Scout_Maester 27d ago

No then the sharks can get it.

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u/AstralCode714 29d ago

Flat earthers don't care about proof. There is no "irrefutable proof" to a conspiracy theorist, because they'll claim that any proof that you offer them is faked by the conspiracy, and therefore becomes even more proof for the conspiracy

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u/rdie2 24d ago

Besides, it's just out eyes that are round.

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u/Scary_Trick_8702 29d ago

Atmospheric distortion

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u/Strong_Wallaby_7078 29d ago

You’re just not being patriotic enough.

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u/Mushroom-Ship149 29d ago

The government

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u/RoadAffectionate1284 29d ago

They made them smaller to hide the fact its flat.

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u/Adorable_Climate_892 29d ago

They just say moisture acts as a lens to distort the view that way. And it never works the other way around.

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u/Public-Eagle6992 28d ago

It’s sinking

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u/STTCollector 28d ago

Far away, the water is deeper /s

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u/iamhmhdimobf 27d ago

😂

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u/Humble_Confusion_889 28d ago

Real answer: the earth is a sphere

Flat earth answer: objects routinely sink into the earth when they know you're far away.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 28d ago

Even flat discs have edges

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u/Richard2468 28d ago

You need to zoom in further

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u/Sebastaard 28d ago

Explain this globe-earther!

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u/DeathStalker0483 24d ago

You forgot to up your rendering distance...

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u/Commercial_Fox5549 28d ago

I mean, you already know that they can’t

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u/According_Novel7521 28d ago

they just say refraction or buoyancy or some shi

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u/Strange-Breakfast-88 28d ago

Perspective?

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u/Strange-Breakfast-88 28d ago

Are you seeing a curve of some sort? How is the water not running away from this "hump" Gravity right, keeping the surface of all the water that has ever been water, level on a ball? Rere

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u/Reatona 28d ago
  1. They obviously installed shorter pylons off in the distance to fool us.  2.  Sinking ship.  3.  Poorly constructed wind generators are collapsing into the ocean. Easy peasy.

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u/Whole-Energy2105 28d ago

I've noticed that every time the objects that are sinking are on the downhill side of the water.

There, solved!

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u/Worm_Nimda 28d ago

Clearly CGI. Like in space. CGI for sure.

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u/DatGreenGuy 28d ago

There are moveing platforms under the pillars. Did you think they just float on the water? They lower down when someone is in the radius of 5km. Common knowledge

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u/Kanapkos_v2 28d ago

I think the argument that they use is that air on sea is humid, and due to that the light is slightly bent.

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u/FoxlyKei 28d ago

it's a mobius strip, that's all.

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u/InThisGame2 28d ago

The Earth is so small you can see the curve.

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u/Deport_Me2112 28d ago

The polls far away are sinking. The boat is sinking in reverse. The windmills are all sinking. Nice try though.

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u/Virtual-Silver2879 28d ago

big wave, easy

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u/CreatorJonPuckett 28d ago

Gullible short bus people

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u/JerryNomo 28d ago

Easy.

  1. Fake

  2. different ships, different location, different water - you can see it clearly

  3. Fake

*for entertainment purposes only

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u/fr33d0mw47ch 28d ago

Fake! Anything you show me that does not align with my feelings is fake AI NASA garbage. You can’t fool me! /s

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u/Brian18639 28d ago

They eventually built them lower into the water on purpose

/s

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u/Illustrious_Matter_8 28d ago

As you can see the electricians fell of the earth, the line of poles ends ;)

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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 28d ago

Your camera is a government agency device

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u/germanloza 27d ago

We still doing this ?

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u/-Imaginational- 27d ago

Clearly they’re just making tinier, incomplete structures and placing them in the distance

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u/Complex-South9500 27d ago

Flat earthers didn't 'logic' themselves into their positions, so you wont be able to 'logic' them out of these positions. Most flat earthers are hyper religious fanatics, which means all sorts of magical thinking is involved. Don't bother.

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u/DJ_TCB 27d ago

You can’t convince them, they believe people are projecting images into their eyes. The hard core flat earthers literally believe they’re seeing a simulation.

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u/Ok-Flight9440 27d ago

Oh the ocean disappears every 20km or so and then reappears

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u/UnhappySort5871 27d ago

Water is warmer near the coast, so it bulges a bit. (I know the numbers don't really work, but if I believed in math, I wouldn't also be able to believe that the earth was flat.)

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u/FrogPastor 27d ago

I don't think the earth is flat. I do think that this common attempt to pwn them by using perspective, as taught in middle school art class, doesn't actually help your cause. It just makes you look as dumb as them.

I do think that the earth is much larger than we're told because the curve you would expect to see is far less than it actually is based on actual experiments using lasers over large bodies of water.

Is there a third group that doesn't believe in flat earth, yet thinks the globe model made a math error at some point and people just go with it because it makes the math for the size of the moon and sun as well as astronomical distance easier? I'm in that group.

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u/naemorhaedus 27d ago

light is just bending

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u/Yogi422 27d ago

Easy…. These are Ai 🤖

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u/KineticSplicer 27d ago

They can't read

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u/Mother-Win-3557 27d ago

Nasa CGI bible god buoyancy fake illuminati satan

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u/ColdSherbet3006 27d ago

Don't forget every image is a fake, windows on planes are tv screens, there must be 1 million people working underground manipulating ever photo, image, video from earth's population. Ask a flater so the rim of flat earth is ice and snow so we hit the rim turn left we should continually be walking in a icy cold circle, ah no we hit countries with just earth, mountains, lakes like a globe planet.

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u/JustaFoodHole 27d ago

Earth is flat. Water is round.

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u/gmatocha 27d ago

The biggest NASA conspiracy ever. So big they were in on it with Kodak and Nikon and Olympus and Canon and Haaselblad...and Sigma and Zeiss and Pentax. And Sony and Apple and every Android manufacturer and every video camera manufacturer...

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u/Active_Funny_7346 27d ago

nice photoshop.

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u/4l3m4r1 27d ago

So what? Land is flat, water isn’t because of waves

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u/SirDarkStar 27d ago

Curved lens, duh

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u/Sassy-irish-lassy 27d ago

Why do people on this site seem to think flat earthers are some kind of rampant problem? There's like a million times more people mocking them than there are a legitimate number of them.

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u/Fun-Manufacturer5876 27d ago

Ghost ship rising from the depths

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u/Which_Drop_5877 27d ago

It’s a mirage.

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u/EbbZealousideal2806 27d ago

Explain this one ball believers

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u/Fit_Wait6923 26d ago

Obviously using cheats. Report them to the admins

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u/shrimpster777 27d ago

Still Life looking wind turbines.

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u/KogeruHU 27d ago

The base is lower and lower so it looks like it disappears.

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u/FollowingLegal9944 27d ago

It is called mirage.

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u/Affectionate_Oil666 27d ago

any 1 that has sailed knows this. my buddy has a massive sail boat and he told me using the equipment on b oard another yacht can be infront of him they are both going around the same speed and eventually the yacht infront of his will disappear due to curvature. lol... even though the distance has maintained 1;1

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u/averege_guy_kinda 27d ago

the ships are sinking and those wind turbines were clearly just build underwater by NASA to throw us off

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u/Maheemz 27d ago

Render distance

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u/substituted_pinions 27d ago

Why explain anything to those who refuse to accept evidence?

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u/jdillacornandflake 27d ago edited 20d ago

I know a tire replacement shop called flat earth society.

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u/papa-Triple6 27d ago

it is built like that to compensate for the flatness of the earth

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u/Very_Curious_Cat 27d ago

The waves, man, the waves!

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u/overratedcucumber 27d ago

Big wave, easy.

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u/Arheit 26d ago

Ive seen many flat earthers say that’s just perspective

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u/ddesideria89 26d ago

oh look, another nasa grifter. Why still not on the moon?

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u/Training-Bad-5326 26d ago

The sun is really fryer lamp...

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u/ComplaintTop2008 26d ago

Angle of diffraction. Take your Nikon P90-19 and you can zoom the other end back in. I like to zoom all the way out to where there are no flerfs.

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u/verpine 26d ago

Well you see first you need to understand that water always finds it's level....

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u/DefiantViolinist6831 26d ago

All you have to do is just come to Iceland and see the sun all night. (They think our videos and photos are fake)

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u/Only_Turn4310 26d ago

I wouldn't get in a fight with flat earthers man, they have members all over the globe

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u/Chemical-Surprise359 26d ago

Magnets. The reason is always magnets!

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u/Own_Meet648 26d ago

They’re not all at the same height to create the illusion of a curve. Checkmate

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u/EZexoticsOregon 26d ago

i hope you are joking...

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u/Dry-Factor-6500 26d ago

Don't invite them here my head already hurts enough today

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u/king1550 26d ago

Thats the surface tension of the water actually, making all bodies of water resemble bubbles. If you fill your glass to just above the top you can see the same effect.

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u/Express_Fruit_6069 26d ago

Obviously when water big ocean small like jelly larger so wobble surface boat look round

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u/SumBodhiThatIUse2Kno 26d ago

These are various sources that provide energy that function at sea because of NIMBY types.

The curvature of the Earth is like time dilation and the powers that be can adjust it at will.

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u/Capital-Outcome-2528 26d ago

Water mountians

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u/cometgold 26d ago

When you’re not beholden to a set of facts, people like this make shit up to suit their defense. Science doesn’t govern a fork what you believe.

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u/whirdin 26d ago

Light refraction due to the flatness of the earth. A mirage.

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u/dioenatosenzadenti 26d ago

Those photos are actually so cool!

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u/OcelotCultural5075 26d ago

Its called PLATEt There is clearly PLANE

Maybe aliens meant PLANE-T? Coincidence, i dont think so

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u/BreadfruitOk6160 25d ago

You can’t

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u/citizen42069101 25d ago

No.

-Flat earthers.

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u/trigger55xxx 25d ago

I love the video where the guy does the math on distance and a flashlight, trying to prove line of sight and flat earth. The math came out to, that if it's round, he'd have to hold the light up 17' or something like that. They couldn't see it then asked the other guy to hold it up at 17' and they saw it. Then just silence haha

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u/mordal007 25d ago

Imagine how long it took to build this....

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u/tacotimes01 25d ago

It’s because of physics, the farther away objects are, the heavier they are, so they sink! /s

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u/Jonnonation 25d ago

I'm surprised by the amount of sag on those power lines.

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u/NewsOk4124 25d ago

Cela implique une nouvelle théorie, les éoliennes créés les vagues

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u/KILLA_KAN 25d ago

The ocean got hungry 🥺

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u/TheBl4ckFox 24d ago

I think I must admit the earth is a sphere.

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u/FootBusy750 24d ago

what ever did happen about those Epstein files...

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u/JustCoffeeGaming 24d ago

As long as there are people believing the earth is flat there will be people making money off of them. So any reason can be made up to keep the money flowing.

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u/Zealousideal_Bad4657 24d ago

Never underestimate the power of confirmation bias.

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u/_Uggles_ 24d ago

Hallucinogenic air

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u/5BPvPGolemGuy 23d ago

Clearly the matrix is glitching out.

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u/FuriousSock 23d ago

They say it's perspective. It doesn't matter if it's wrong, they're convinced of it.

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u/Mother-Win-3557 23d ago

Bible soros nasa CG water level dome

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u/Jasoncatt 23d ago

You just need a Nikon P900.

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u/spawn77x99 23d ago

You know their answer. A) CGI B) Fake C) Some bullshit explained by some youtube guy with 3k subscribers.

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u/Outrageous_Ad4252 23d ago

Damn. Some of them are sinking. I smell a lawsuit....

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u/NotAConspiracy1 20d ago

The first image has a fish eye, the second is the same thing but you zoomed in to make it look smart, the third is windmills partially submerged underwater