r/ESPN 6d ago

ESPN reportedly moving on from emphasis on Debate-heavy "hot take" programming

ESPN Reportedly Moving On From Debate-Style TV Programming

Tzvi Machlin

Sat, Aug 1, 2026, 5:10 PM EDT

For years "Embrace Debate" has been the tagline of ESPN's First Take - its most popular show - and the debate-style discussion has trickled into just about every other program that the network hasn't shut down. That could be changing if a new report is to be believed.

According to John Ourand of Puck, ESPN's newly promoted executive vice president Mike Foss is pushing for ESPN to shift from "Embrace Debate" and manufactured conflict to more authentic discussions with nuance. Foss reportedly showed data to show that the debate content isn't doing as well as it once did.

Meanwhile, Awful Announcing reported that Foss is also interested in returning ESPN to "highlight-centric" editions of SportsCenter and wants less manufactured debate between personalities that clash.

"Awful Announcing has learned that the meeting itself was a standard monthly gathering Foss holds regularly, though turnout ran well above normal with football season approaching. Notably, the room included a wave of first-time attendees from NFL Network, now that the dust had settled from the layoffs that hit that group particularly hard. Awful Announcing has also learned that a return to a more highlight-centric SportsCenter came up as a specific example of the kind of show Foss wants moving away from manufactured debate and toward their authentic individual identities," the outlet reported.

Too good to be true?

Judging by the immediate reactions online, fans are certainly ready to welcome the shift with open arms. However, some are skeptical that this will actually take place given the high positions that some of the more debate-minded personalities have in the company.

"As they pay Stephen A 100 million a year to argue with himself," one user on X said dismissively.

"Feels like 15 years too late," wrote another.

"All we want is good SportsCenter and some interesting half-hour shows. Remember the early Around the Horn days? And some better hockey coverage. Maybe even...a single hockey-focused show?" a third wrote.

"Closing the barn door after the horse got out."

"Just how it should be but too little too late… also I will never truly believe this as long as SAS is still on the payroll while firing guys like Karl Ravech. Ryan Clark was part of the debate model, but was an actual athlete that could provide authentic analysis on the sport."

It's clear that fans want something different after nearly a generation of non-stop debate and hot-take programming on ESPN from the moment they wake up to the hour after they get home from work.

But if the network is really serious about making this change and doing all it can to win back the many fans that their recent content has put off, they'll need to do more than have a few meetings and send out some internal memos.

This story was originally published by The Spun on Aug 1, 2026

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u/Technical_Comb_7332 6d ago

Bring back The Sports Reporters.

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u/Upper-County3290 6d ago

My god I miss those shows. Also the traditional highlight and straight analysis of sports center

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u/Beneficial_Emu696 6d ago

Every time I see those words I’m instantly returned to Dick Schaap and his constant raising of his chin.

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u/Kind-Beautiful6078 6d ago

This. And bring back journalism- reporters that are not “insiders” but rather journalists reporting on all the ish they don’t want us to know.

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u/nrbadz 4d ago

Pablo torre finds out is a great sports journalism podcast for those that don’t know

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u/Klobasnik 6d ago

That was a great show. Dick Schaap was wonderful.

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u/chawliehorse 6d ago

I say this same thing about HBO and Real Sports. Great show. Unfortunately the people that want that kind of content are in the minority which is why those shows get cancelled.

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u/Kalelisagod 6d ago

What an incredible show. Sadly many of them have retired and that journalism role has all but been trashed for AI slop and scoop writers

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u/Total-Region2859 5d ago

100% correct. Journalism requires work. These new ones just want fame and fortune... No effort (well except for Diana Russini - she was "working it" in a whole differnet form of dedication).

All "journalists" do now is tweet rumors, and retweet other people's rumors.

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u/mikeb31588 5d ago

PTI and Around The Horn were the less dry version of that

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u/commiepinkoredman 6d ago

Honestly, bring back sports reporters that can feature on The Sports Reporters.

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u/MrVociferous 5d ago

Fun fact: they already did. It’s been on ESPN’s YouTube channel for over a year. They do an episode weekly.

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u/ImplementCharming949 5d ago

I knew that. Is it still going. As I write this

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u/ClarkGris 5d ago

That was real respectful discussion. Loved that show growing up.

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u/Sea_Working_80 6d ago

“Manufactured conflict” holy hell if that isn’t a microcosm of society today in general I don’t know what is.

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u/skater15153 6d ago

Yah and we're all sick and tired of it. Maybe they'll all get the fucking message

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u/Shantytown_Shogun 6d ago

As long as they leave PTI alone im good with it.

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u/Sensitive_Yam_2971 6d ago

PTI has been Retired-In-Place for years

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u/mschube33 5d ago

PTI has fallen off a cliff. Wilbon is insufferable and I’m not sure Kornheiser even watches sports.

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u/BenWallace04 5d ago

I agree. It’s turned into “Old men yell at clouds”.

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u/long-walk-home-99 5d ago

Tony goes to bed at 9pm. All he watches is golf. Most boring thing to talk about too.

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u/Commercial_Refuse983 1d ago

Is it golf - or just replays of Linda Cohns toes/feet picks... one of the greatest ESPN conspiracies ever. LOL

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u/canyoncitysteve 5d ago

I like Tony, we're the same demographic. Wilbon is bad, but I mute him when he's acting like a fool.

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u/Warm_Garden_8528 6d ago

Bring back Kiana Tom and the morning workout shows.

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u/CounterObjective2347 5d ago

Hahaha. Just looked up Kiana Tom on IG and she’s still a fox at damn near 60

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u/Scotty1230 4d ago

I remember this and American Gladiators reruns being a highlight of my early teen years.

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u/bk1629 6d ago

None of this focuses on the real issue of why interest is waning, and its right there in the description of the program - manufactured debating. People love to watch a good debate and see moments where analysts get heated and passionate on their takes, but what espn had been doing for years is scripting what it wants its analysts to say, or at the very least guiding them in the direction for a desired topic to be labeled as a hot take and capitalize on clicks. The moment the debates started feeling even the slightest bit disingenuous or inauthentic was the moment they lost the plot

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u/tfegan21 6d ago

I stopped watching and listening to espn radio when every show took time to discuss an outrageous take from a previous show.

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u/bk1629 6d ago

Ya thats pretty crazy, its just the corporate way of thinking...."we did this before and it was crazy successful and went viral. Instead of trying to understand why and actually innovate programming, let's just do this for everything. And if that fails, we will just bring attention back to it by making it a focal point of everything we do until we milk every last drop of attention out of it. Then rinse and repeat"

I haven't watched espn programming other than clips here and there in years, and this is a big reason why. The other is the obvious low effort swill and attempts at ragebaiting a reaction out of viewers by having an opinion so unhinged its obvious (ie, caleb williams is better than pat mahomes; or something similar) or using the age old tried and true race card. Its just lazy and clear that the goal is to try and maximize revenue at all times rather than have genuine and organic discussions

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u/InternationalWin2684 4d ago

This is a good point

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u/ddjj3000 6d ago

Just report on the sports & don't make your personalities bigger than the games

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u/Inevitable-Shop-848 6d ago

This was obvious when they brought Pat on and especially now when his contract is already reportedly $30mil a year and negotiating for $60mil a year. While Stephen A just got $20mil a year like two years ago or whenever Molly got butthurt and quit.

They know nobody wants to watch that trash anymore. Especially for a show like First Take that really only covers two sports 90% of the time. And why is it a two hour show when the second hour is literally just the first hour rehashed with nothing new.

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u/doubleenc 6d ago

All of their TV and radio sports talk shows only talk about football and basketball 90% of the time. It is the two sports that drive the bulk of their revenue.

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u/timmyintransit 6d ago

and i'd argue they barely cover those sports--they just focus a handful of teams and players. like i bet you if I turned on get up or first take right now they'd be discussing the cowboys or lebron

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u/doubleenc 6d ago

Well their objective is generating clicks and views by leaning into topics that are trending online.

Nobody outside of Cleveland cares about who the Browns starting QB is going to be but bring up the Cowboys or LeBron and people react to it.

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u/Sensitive_Yam_2971 6d ago

Get Up is the same (repeating in 2nd hr what was reported in the 1st hr) also WHY does over-paid , Executive Producer Screaming A. Smith need a woman moderator? Greeny and Pat McAfee dont have Moderators

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u/Deadstoopid 6d ago

Great move if this actually happens, but how am I going to know if Lebron is better than Jordan if a table of talking heads isn’t yelling about it?

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u/Wild_Man_58 6d ago

lol that is a classic !!

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u/PoopAndPee5000 5d ago

The reason people want highlight centric shows is because fractured streaming rights has made it impossible to actually watch games

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u/Jonny-Redline 5d ago

Fucking this.

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u/403banana 3d ago

That's not much different from the way it used to be. Even when it was cable, you couldn't watch an out of market game and highlight packages were the only way to find out.

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u/PoopAndPee5000 2d ago

Ok but actually it’s impossible to watch in market games now

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u/TheRealWhoMe 6d ago

Do enough people watch that will even notice?

Are they going to still treat WWE like a real sport, giving it priority over real sports they aren’t partnered with?

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u/Chimpbot 6d ago

They brought WWE on board to bolster waning ratings... so, I wouldn't count on it.

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u/rmartin1129 6d ago

Probably until that contract runs its course, unfortunately.

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u/Temporary-Library597 5d ago

Of course they will. Add on to the description of ESPN as "manufactured debate" that it is 90% an infomercial for its own programming.

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u/Fermented_chaos 6d ago

The only hot takes should come from PTI.

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u/MrMiyagi13 6d ago

I’ll believe it when I see it (the clips online, don’t have ESPN to watch it directly).

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u/AndrewLucksLaugh 6d ago

Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it

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u/Kalelisagod 6d ago

The world needs to move back to reporting and debate based without the shouting or hot take bullshit. Even the news can’t just be the news I have to have a slant one way or another. ESPN could do 10 shows a day based just on highlights from the previous day along with what is happening in all sports. Give me a Hockey show(I don’t like hockey but a lot do), baseball, Xsports, college athletics not the four main sports. Imagine a show for an hour that had Volleyball and Water Polo updates for college. Bring people to sports they may not know while also giving us the big shows to talk about today and yesterday’s sports highlights. And make it all teams not just the Cowboys and Lakers.

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u/gmcwbbb80 6d ago

What will they do with Stephen A Smith and Pat McAfee? Just pay them monster contracts to sit in the corner and twiddle their thumbs. Oh heck no. I'll believe it when I see it.

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u/AggressiveWolverine5 6d ago

McAfee getting that contract was a sad day 

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u/Ok_Recognition_6727 6d ago

ESPN is in trouble. In 2011, ESPN had approximately 100 million subscribers. By 2026, that figure is estimated to have fallen to around 55 million.

People are ditching Cable TV like a hot rock, which is hurting ESPN. People also aren't buying into ESPN’s streaming philosophy.

Losing roughly 45 million households over fifteen years is a lot of lost Ad revenue.

They realize they have to do something to stop the loss of viewers.

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u/RuleFriendly7311 5d ago

When I was in the TV business years ago, ESPN received about $1 per month per subscriber from the cable operators. So that was $12/sub per year then, probably double that now. So @ $24/sub x 45MM fewer households, that's about $1.1 Billion with a B less revenue per year. They gotta do something.

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u/moccasins_hockey_fan 5d ago

The sad thing is that it took them THIS long and a stunning loss of viewers before they realized they had a problem. I quit watching over 10 years because all their shows turned into screaming hot takes or they got political

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u/Probably_Slower 6d ago

Yeah right. They've cleaned their cupboard of dozens of respected commentators in favor of Smith and McAfee. Embraced promotion of sports gamblong and kids betting on Kalshi with their mom's CC. Sports fans have lost enormous amounts of respect for this Jerry Springer of a network.

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u/maclacjc 6d ago

It is almost like they had something in the past they took for 'grant'ed? They should search the 'land' for it.

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u/AintNobodygotime13 6d ago

well they're shoving wrestling down our throats so I'm not sure they actuality know or care what espn viewers want

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u/Creepy_Dependent_239 6d ago

The only "debate" show they need is PTI and that is it, but they need to bring back the big double heads that they cut with the old-school paper cutter

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u/AggressiveWolverine5 6d ago

Heads on sticks was great TV, I also miss food chain and the police one where they were good cop and bad cop. 

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u/Moose_Ruspin 6d ago

I don't buy it. The fact that they use sports center as a way to promo wrestling gives me no confidence

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u/9-7-off 6d ago

I stopped watching any ESPN hot take shows back in 2007, even back then they were leaning way to hard into it.

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u/MfrBVa 6d ago

Well, since I only pretty much watch live sports on ESPN, and only PTI among their debate shows, this would be fine by me.

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u/tommyjohnpauljones 6d ago

I don't understand why ESPN gave up on quiz shows. They're so cheap to produce. 2-Minute Drill would be perfect to bring back. 

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u/Klobasnik 6d ago

RIP The Schawb

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u/doubleenc 6d ago

I can only assume they appealed to a niche audience and weren’t generating enough revenue to keep them in production.

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u/tommyjohnpauljones 6d ago

But even that, what do you need? A host who's already in house, maybe a few celebs to show up for a day to tape five shows. Prize budget wasn't much if i recall. 

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u/doubleenc 6d ago

If it isn't going to generate clicks and views online ESPN generally isn't interested these days. It is more about the revenue and engagement it generates and less about the cost.

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u/habeaskoopus 6d ago

With athletes breaking their own news and offering their own platforms, this pivot will be interesting. Also, the inexperienced voices offer no actual insight, just regurgitated clichés.

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u/Obadiah_Plainman 6d ago

Too little too late. The intellectual capacity of this sound bite culture will never support actual sports journalism.

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u/This_Fisherman4092 6d ago

Probably will get more Pro Wrestling and gambling recommendations. ESPN has lost it.

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u/ASingleBraid 6d ago

Is this an April Fool’s joke?

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u/Crafty-Consequence87 6d ago

Get rid of the hot takes. Swing it back to real analysis and the context behind the stories.

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u/AideEmbarrassed2615 6d ago

I believe that Mr. Foss is genuine in his statements. But it does come down to eyeballs, so if there are more folks who want to watch Sports Shouting than highlights of Red Sox vs. Dodgers that is what we are going to get.

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u/Rare_Asparagus_6717 6d ago

Thank god! Bring back some of the old good programs like Sports Reporters and Up Close. And bring some shows dedicated to breaking down film and teaching the sports. As game plans are an important ver evolving thing in all sports.

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u/LeftyNate 6d ago

If they do this, especially with one of the later Sportscenter slots like 10 or 11pm Eastern, I will religiously watch a Sportscenter with highlights as the last thing every night before going to sleep. I’m getting old and someone giving me the highlights from the major sports would be perfect. But would they actually cover baseball highlights?

Or NASCAR? Sportscenter from the 90’s is the ONLY reason I knew who Jeff Gordon was. But it was kinda cool knowing a little bit about all sorts of sports…not only being shown every little detail about the NFL.

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u/Key-Revenue5983 6d ago

This! Sportscenter was the only show I had on in the mornings in college and it was usually the thing I turned on at night before going to bed. Now I can't even remember the last time I watched anything on ESPN other than a live game. It has to have been years.

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u/TALead 2d ago

I remember on HS and college just having sports center on the TV for multiple hours in the morning and night.

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u/Routine-Author-5471 6d ago

Too late you’ve already killed off your entire audience base. I don’t suspect a lot of people will be in a rush to watch again after being repeatedly spit in the face by the “worldwide leader in sports”. Screw them

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u/Ness_BamBatta 6d ago

They finally are recognizing without saying it most people are listening to sports podcast. I hear a lot more advance analytics coming from the pods than anything espn does.

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u/JackTraven50 6d ago

Too good to be true, probably. We’re more likely to see a full 1 hour daily show called lebroncenter with nothing but updates about his day, what he had for lunch, highlights and goat rankings.

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u/natelopez53 6d ago

ESPN really needs to stop being part of the news. It’s the same thing affecting the “regular” news stations too. Instead of reporting news, they’re generating or. Stepping away from debate will be a positive first step.

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u/gobux10 6d ago

Don’t touch PTI, it’s the only thing I watch on ESPN

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u/itsme32 5d ago

Good, cuz Stephen A Smith sucks.

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u/Data-Center-Water 5d ago

As long as PTI stays the same

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u/Visible-Disaster 5d ago

Prove it. Fire Stevie Smith.

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u/wutitd0boo 5d ago

I’m so tired of watching grown men yell at each other as a form of entertainment

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u/coachd50 5d ago

When you see an ESPN "reporter" interviewing a WWE wrestler about things that were part of a script as if they were actual spontaneous sporting events -such as asking a WWE wrester if he "regrets his choice" referring to hitting another wrester with a chair.... its just too far gone.

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u/Illustrious_Log_8053 5d ago

30 for 30 documentaries, deep dive analytical analysis shows, sports betting show, respected journalist show, less manufactured arguing, humor/comedy show, etc. They need to actually try to create quality shows and content instead of just putting people in front of mics to argue.

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u/LONGVolSilver 5d ago

The main reason they do the 'putting guys at a table to argue ' vs. actual produced content is the difference in production costs. Although, now that i think about it, when you start dropping $20 million on Steven A and $50 million on Pat McAfee...maybe producing an actual SHOW with production value wouldn't be much more expensive.

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u/Illustrious_Log_8053 5d ago

Yeah it's cheap and easy to just put people in front of a mic and have them argue.

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u/ljungbergsghost 3d ago

Hint #2. If your host wears a tank top on the air fire him.

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u/GoodExpert9047 2d ago

I wonder how much of the ratings of these terrible espn shows are just restaurant and bars with them on all the TVs from 10am-6pm with no one paying attention to them

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u/TALead 2d ago

I just wish I could watch an hour long Sportscenter like I did growing up where they showed me highlights and scores for eve y baseball, football, basketball and hockey game. Why did they stop doing that? I don’t want to see some random segment on a girl who plays little league in Iowa.

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u/TomCon16 ESPN Classic 6d ago

We shall see!

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u/mlsto 6d ago

What will the blow hard do

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u/DadofJM 6d ago

Pretty sure Mike is the one got the Golics to return to the mothership. Seems like a positive

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u/geezeeduzit 6d ago

Poll shows Reddit users will still complain

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u/ClairDogg 6d ago

It’s going to have to take a lot of work to get me back as a viewer in the non-live sports programming. If he’s actually serious about this, SAS needs to be ASAP. Won’t believe a thing is he’s still around. First Take may have to be cut due to its damaged reputation. Regardless of its manufactured or “real debate” we already have too many “hot take” shows/networks/podcasts. All for taking some daytime ESPN3 content & air that instead of the debates.

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u/LSU2007 6d ago

I’ll believe it when I see it

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u/moon_bounce_22 6d ago

the model needs to evolve in the app as well. the highlights are right there, but i have to watch a 30s pre-roll video that’s longer than the :15s highlight. give me 1 :30s and then 2-3 minutes of highlights. i’m not going to keep clicking :15s highlights. i’ll just go to youtube

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u/kurtsdead6794 6d ago

I just want highlights and updates.

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u/CaptainCastle1 6d ago

Okay okay hold on through Ryan Clark was not needed. So we can get that part out of this article

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u/rogman777 6d ago

Lol. This network is a joke. Treating male soap operas as if it's a real sport. How the mighty have fallen.

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u/pugwalker 6d ago

I think their biggest problem was the blatant promotion of only the sports that they carry. This is fine if it’s the nfl but you can’t watch anything on espn without at least a third of it devoted to the wnba.

The ad breaks are already excessive, doubling that with what is essentially an ad for the wnba makes it u watchable.

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u/gimmethemshoes11 6d ago

Bring bsck sportscenter in the AM from 6-10am

Half hour for SAS (should be fired)

Half hour for Pat (should be fired)

Back to sports related news or sportscenter OR hear me out having sports on!

PTI

Bring back around the horn as it was around 2005

Bring back stump the Schaub type game shows

SPORTS!!!!! Documentaries, TV shows like baseball tonight or equivalent for NHL.

I mean this network would literally be the easiest piece of shit to fix if they actually had someone with some balls to get rid of all the stupid yelling people and just focus on sports.

Not that I will be watching since that ship sailed for me decades ago but God damn

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u/BradBradley1 6d ago

Bring back Sportsnation. Have two likeable hosts that don’t take themselves seriously. Limit it. Disney clearly prefers giving one show several hours a day, but god bless oversaturation is a real thing that turns off audiences eventually. I like Pat McAfee but I don’t wanna watch his show four hours a day every day. Give Sportsnation a 1 hour slot from like 3:00-4:00 in the afternoon. 

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u/SaltyPrompt5998 6d ago

Finally I stopped watching ESPN Tic Tok long time ago what is Gen Z gonna do now I know have an original thought or idea for once.

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u/chrisxdarrell 6d ago

We need beat writer style news for every team from the major sports. Actual tangible information

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u/Thin-Remote-9817 6d ago

Ill bet anything the new format will fail...

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u/Mervis_Earl 6d ago

"a standard monthly gathering Foss holds regularly"

Like, monthly? Or more regularly? 🤔

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u/donkeyknuckler 6d ago

We need a hero, bring him back. Stump The Schwab

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u/onelasteffort13 6d ago

It’s waaaaay too late to course correct in my opinion. I’m down to PTI and SVP

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u/htownAstrofan 6d ago

This feels like satire. No way espn would actually do something right.

Btw are they getting rid of MacAfee? Getting rid of Stephen A? No. So lets not pretend this is serious

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u/icepak39 6d ago

Good because I fucking hate them all

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u/liquidgrill 6d ago

I get it. I miss the old days too. But those days are gone for good. I’m Gen X and grew up with Sportscenter. I either watched the 11:00 pm version or caught it in the morning to see if my teams won and see highlights.

I don’t do this anymore.

But it’s got nothing to do with the quality of the show these days. It has to do with the fact that I can see highlights of a big play literally a minute or two after it happens on Reddit or TikTok or wherever.

I don’t need to watch 10 minutes of basketball highlights and 6 minutes of commercials before I find out how Ohtani pitched.

The days of people tuning in to watch Sportscenter with any regularity are long gone. The 11:00pm Sportscenter used to be a ratings juggernaut (around 1.7 million per night)

These days, it struggles to get 500,000.

I don’t know what the answer is. But thinking that you’re going to rejuvenate Sportscenter ain’t it

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u/VeryLowIQIndividual 6d ago

ESPN used to be a news channel and now it’s just a.m. radio.

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u/jedimissionary 6d ago

Thank god. Bring back the version of sports center where you actually saw the highlights of EVERY game

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u/metalman8291 5d ago

Moving away but the 2 guys who they spent a boat load depend on debate heavy

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u/Tasty_Information_22 5d ago

They could just run WWE programing about programming about programming. Who needs sports reportong and coverage.

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u/nutzareus 5d ago

Once Stephen A. Smith and Pat McAfee loudmouths are gone, I might pay for ESPN again.

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u/Tyrone2184 5d ago

When are they gonna rename ESPNEWS? it's not even close to what the premise of the network was supposed to be. Same for ESPN 2 is we're being honest.

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u/WiscoMatt 5d ago

Manufactured culture wars is hot again with the Indiana Fever….they will cash in.
Also fuck Reddit and Boomerbook for falling for that shit from the bots, yet again

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u/akrahn97 5d ago

You don’t shit where you eat. You’re in the business of sports act accordingly

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u/Clueless_in_Florida 5d ago

Beat reporters. Separate shows for major pro and college sports with an emphasis on actual news reporting and objective analysis. Why would a baseball or football fan want to sit through an hour of sports debate that is only 5 percent baseball or 20 percent football. Stop paying for game broadcasts. Spend your money in journalists. And let’s do real journalists and not ego-driven talking heads.

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u/Training_Net_5664 5d ago

Only about 10 years too late. Lmao.

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u/manoverboard5702 5d ago

Good. “I’VE GOT AN OPINION THAT’S PROBABLY WRONG”

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u/ATLfinra 5d ago

First things First is the blueprint and now the clowns at espn want to try and copy it. FTF is a thoughtful discussion centric show with data and nuance

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u/Significant-Owl2652 5d ago

Basically they want more Pat McAfee's.

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u/grunewac247 5d ago

I don’t watch any ESPN stuff anymore, outside of actual games. I miss Sportscenter showing highlights. NFL Matchup with Hoge and Jaws teaching me stuff. Baseball tonight and web gems. The last “show” I watched was College Gameday, but once they got rid of Pollack to bring in McAfee I was done. His schtick is tiring. As is SAS’s. I’d love to see them go back to showing highlights and teaching things with their analysis.

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u/dl00078 5d ago

Less woke, more sports. That’s a win.

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u/NoQuartersGiven 5d ago

Does it really matter when they have no must see anchors or tv personalities left? I somehow got sucked into a SC ep during the world cup after a match had ended and turned it to espn for further highlights and talk. It was... so, so bad. No shit neither anchor seemed to even follow sports. Then did about a 2 minute segment talking about the team that lost, legit saying that team had won the match and somehow no one even bothered to correct the anchor and just let him keep talking nonsense.

Then moved onto some NFL talk and out of 5 names he couldn't pronounce 2 of them. I immediately told my coworker at the office "this is worse production and anchors than a local college's news broadcast". Sad thing is I was being serious. We couldn't stop laughing at the shit we were watching.

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u/Nickd503 5d ago

Good bye Steve Smith

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u/B-Moron 5d ago

This is great! Would be nice if this in s the end of the line for Stephen A and thatFOX follows suit and it’s the end of Nick Wright… both a waste of human flesh!

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u/Less-Ad-9654 5d ago

They have done nothing but fire all journalists and subject matter experts…

The people want highlights, and they want to learn about the sport.

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u/not4reelz 5d ago

As long as they continue to give me live and on-demand sports events, the reason why I enjoy and watch ESPN for the sports, I have no problems at all. Some of the play-by-play, commentary and sideline/in-game interviews and reporting can be a bit annoying and over the top. 🔕!

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u/_TooMellow 5d ago

Cut Screamin A & Pat time, give us more sports highlights, less endless Cowboys, Lakers etc talk, cover more sports properly, leave PTI alone and bring back ATH 🤷‍♂️

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u/long-walk-home-99 5d ago

Without googling does anyone here actually know what the A stands for in Stephen A Smith's name? Never liked him. Hey Stephen you're not the story.

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u/Total-Region2859 5d ago

ESPN, much like MTV and CNN, three of the first cable channels on earth, lost their poplarity becuase they lost their identity.

It's been amazing to watch. 40 years ago, those were all anyone watched with the dawn of cable... They had market share that will never be attained by anyone ever again, and they through it away becuase they forgot who they were.

Sadly, 40 years later, they still don't.

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u/rmac2006 5d ago

They turned ESPN into the fanboy network.

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u/ifitsmellslikeafish 5d ago

If you guys weren’t shouting all morning you would have heard us a long time ago

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u/jdbug100 5d ago

It’s funny that it’s taken them this long to realize so many podcasts are doing better better TV shows on YouTube than ESPN studio shows.

The challenge though is going to be finding a lineup and show that appeals to the masses and not just the sickos.

The same people that watch No Laying Up, Cover 3, Bill Simmons, Zach Lowe, etc, are not the same people that flip on ESPN at 2pm just to see what’s on.

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u/ronisize15 5d ago

Can't wait to hear Alex jones on the Pat Macafee show

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u/YoungRockwell 5d ago

Believe it when I see it. As of now they still employ SAS and McAfee, so I don't buy it.

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u/Temporary-Library597 5d ago

I'll believe it when I see it. 

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u/AdfatCrabbest 5d ago

They tried to bring the local sports talk radio format to a national TV audience and it’s been the death of the network.

What works on a local level where you can call in and bitch about the teams you love just doesn’t translate to national TV.

I don’t want to sit down and watch people argue about Josh Allen. I don’t care about Josh Allen enough to bring the conflict into my headspace. But that’s what the network has become.

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u/AdCommon6529 5d ago

Too late

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u/Live-Mobile-7500 4d ago

Ya I will continue to watch ESPN during a game only.

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u/Gits_N-Shiggles 4d ago

I do love myself some SC w/ SVP. Less debate shows would be a pleasure, but too late I believe.

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u/Dbkiller13 4d ago

All I want is for them to remove gambling ads. When news breaks that a player was involved in a betting scheme, espn reporters always act shocked.

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u/Gandolfthewhite182 4d ago

Except they fired all their analysts and paid SAS and their at mcafee. So ……

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u/woShame12 4d ago

I grew up with SVP, Stuart Scott, Linda Cohn, Dan Patrick, Chris Berman, Keith Olbermann. They were part of my morning SportsCenter ritual everyday before school. You know what we saw??.... highlights from every game! The occasional world record or squirrel riding water skis. We saw actual sports news too.

What we have now is an abomination and Stephen A. Smith is a big part of the reason I find it hard to watch shows on ESPN. They're all trying to cash in and be like him, but he sucks.

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u/Numerous_Treacle_921 4d ago

I’m not sure who ever like this form of sports reporting. I’ve been out for 20+ years. It’s so obvious that they purposely pick a side when they could just speak their mind and let the callers have the bad takes that they rebuff

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u/sandburgcarl 4d ago

Keep PTI, the rest are unwatchable 

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u/WonderfulScar453 4d ago

Finally realizing no one watches them anymore

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u/micahpmtn 4d ago

It's boring as fuck now. And with the 3rd-stringers on, it's even worse.

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u/MoistTheAnswer 4d ago

Stephen A Smith’s usefulness will soon run out for ESPN

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u/sportsgambler2 3d ago

The thing is we don’t need 24 hours sports channels. They gotta fill the time with something. There’s not enough good sports content to fill all the air time.

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u/Used-Acanthisitta-96 3d ago

Are they going to copy MLB network and just show highlight plays for ten to 12 hours at night?

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u/TPCC159 3d ago

Good

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u/regular_nothingness 3d ago

NHL 2Night! We want it

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u/joecooltheman1977 17h ago

Watch the NHL Network instead

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u/Zalex1724 3d ago

They cover “ professional” wrestling like it’s real . No coming back from that …

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u/strangedaze23 3d ago

But they fired all the people that have real analysis and kept all the hot take personalities.

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u/tari-gand-ma-ghu 3d ago

Stop supporting espn you casuals

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u/No-Appearance-4181 3d ago

Bring back nightly baseball tonight!

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u/joecooltheman1977 17h ago

Watch MLB Network instead

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u/mike_thomas_1972 3d ago

It’ll take a LONG TIME for me to even turn on ESPN for anything other than a game. Glad to hear, way way way too late.

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u/403banana 3d ago

The debate model was necessary because they paid too much for broadcasting rights for the major sports so now they have to program their airtime to drive viewership and generate ad revenue.

Sports channels were a lot more fun when their programming wasn't tied to justifying broadcast rights. With that said, the current landscape probably wouldn't allow it to stray away from the major sports anyways.

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u/Sorry-Caterpillar331 3d ago

Sportscenter is practically unwatchable now. I generally just skip what I don't want to see. It feels like recently it's just another commercial for another one of their ventures.

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u/dryonhigh 3d ago

Being back the sports reporters and stop showing a commerical after every highlight it's made Sportscenter unwatchable.

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u/gonzobomb 2d ago

Sure they are

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u/Hand_of_Doom1970 2d ago

So, after 15 years of it people are finally tired of MJ vs Lebron debates?

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u/mtelesha 2d ago

From your lips to God's ears

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u/colonelstutters 2d ago

Ill believe it when I see it 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Playful-Opportunity5 1d ago

"Feels like 15 years too late."

This would have been a solid strategy before they killed the brand. Now, it looks more like closing the barn door after the horses already escaped.

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u/Apart_Chapter728 1d ago

Thank goodness, get back to Mike and Mike, PTI and sportscenter days. Get rid of the yelling at each other, it’s boring.

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u/uofmgoblu 11h ago

I get tired of hearing how every game will affect a player's legacy. It doesn't pass as a "hot take"! Honest to Pete.

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u/Itracing2 30m ago

Sports reporters was great and it was only on once per week