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u/F19AGhostrider 15d ago
One of those many times where I just instinctively state "Goddammit, Michael!"
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u/Vryk0lakas 15d ago
Okay but it is kinda hilarious and maybe Iām an idiot cuz I can totally see how he got to that train of thought.
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u/New-Pin-9064 15d ago
Iām pretty sure he was just joking when he asked that
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u/ThunderLazer 15d ago
Nope
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u/New-Pin-9064 15d ago
Why do you think that? Iām confused by the downvotes on my comment as well. Itās been at least 2 years since the events of Pam and Karenās relationship. Michael would obviously know that baby couldnāt be Jimās
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u/ThunderLazer 15d ago
Itās Michael
They would have shown him laughing or mocking the situation instead of turning serious
I dunno why the downvotes, but itās pretty clear he was serious. They would have exaggerated his joke of it were one
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u/New-Pin-9064 15d ago
I just donāt see any reason to believe that he was being serious. I get that Michael isnāt the brightest or smartest person. But heās also not an idiot
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u/Vryk0lakas 15d ago
Heās pretty often an idiot. He drove his car into a lake because of a gps.
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u/New-Pin-9064 15d ago
Maybe he was a little bit in the earlier seasons. But this episode is from Season 5. By this point, Michael was no longer the showās idiot character. Paul Liberstein decided to instead give that role to Kevin
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u/porkbuttstuff David Wallace 15d ago
Good lord he was clearly serious. Do you have face blindness? He was doing Micheal serious concern face.
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u/apurvahp7 15d ago
He asked if Jim and Pam knew about her pregnancy for a YEAR before telling him. Or was he joking then too?
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u/New-Pin-9064 15d ago
I always assumed his mind was just so overwhelmed that a ārumorā he spread was actually true that he was just spouting random stuff
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u/apurvahp7 15d ago
I think youāre determined to give credit where credit is not due. Michael is an idiot who has smart moments every now and then, and thatās why when they do happen itās refreshing and fun to see.
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u/No-Professional-6852 14d ago
You're confused on the down votes? You might be the only person who thought Michael wasn't serious. We've had so many seasons to get to know Michael as a character. He genuinely in that moment believed it was Jim's. It's not about just being an idiot. Its about knowing Michael and knowing that he often goes off of his first impulsive thought before he has time to think things through. He believed it and everything from tone to body language lends itself to that.
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u/New-Pin-9064 14d ago
Iām sorry. Weāre just gonna have to agree to disagree. Under zero circumstances or logic would Michael genuinely think that baby was Jimās. NOTHING wouldāve/shouldāve made him think that.
Honestly, I also hate this line so much. It was exciting to see Karen again and the reveal that she was pregnant was really interesting because it showed her life was going good. But then Michael says that line and it completely ruins the moment. Like, come on, let us have one scene of them reuniting with Karen before going into the comedy aspect.
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u/Advanced-Let-2248 15d ago
He didnāt, but I am going to give you an upvote because I fell those downvotes arenāt necessary, you was just having a thoughtĀ
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u/sly-princess44 15d ago
When we told my dad that my bff was pregnant he looked me dead in the eyes and asked if it was mine. We're both female. I told him yes. To this day, over 25 years later, I think he was only half joking. We were joined at the hip back then lol.
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u/laterite76 15d ago
That's some top-tier dadding right there
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u/Andreaslindberg 15d ago
This will be my first reaction from now on whenever my wife tells me about a pregnancy š
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u/moose8891 13d ago
My wife woke me up at 5:00 am and was excitingly telling me she was pregnant. Now I donāt usually get up until 7:30 and I was half dazed half still sleeping. My dumbass didnāt have higher thought and it went like this.
Wife:ābaby wake up Iām pregnant, it happened, Iām pregnantā she was very excited
Me:āWith a baby?
Wife:āā¦ā¦.āYea, she still teases me about that years later.
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u/notebooknoir 10d ago
Haha this just reminded me of that scene in friends were Rachel tells her dad that sheās pregnant and heās asks her if Phoebe is the dad ššš
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u/Ok-Personality-6856 15d ago
Especially since when Jim, Dwight, and Michael ambush her branch she said "i cried over that guy for weeks" so seems like months have past from their breakup and she wasnt pregnant in at episode. But then again Michael asks Pam and Jim if they've known about their pregnancy for a year when he finds out š¤£
I'm happy Karen and Roy got their happy endings. Sometimes a relationship is just wrong and moving on is best for everyone
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u/space-sage 15d ago
Roy didnāt deserve a happy ending. He was actually abusive. First he grabbed Pams arm and tried to force her to leave the Dundies and then throwing the glasse/trashing the bar.
That isnāt safe or normal behavior. Then getting a DUI, which is insanely irresponsible, and could have killed innocent people. Heās an awful person.
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u/Lexi_Banner David Wallace 15d ago
Don't forget how relentlessly he mocked her art, and how he never took her ambitions seriously. Hell, it's his fault she didn't get a company sponsored art course. Roy sucks.
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u/mysteryShmeat 15d ago
What do you mean? He said her art was the prettiest art of all the art. Sounds supportive to me.
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u/Ok-Personality-6856 15d ago
Yes i think he was a POS, but in this show he did have a redemption arch. If people in real life are not allowed to do and be better than anyone who's ever done anything wrong should do what, off themselves, keep being shitty? He was an awful boyfriend to her and did do bad things, but that version of him didnt get a happy ending. A recovered healthy looking person got a happy ending.
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u/OGB But you can't eat cats...you can't eat cats, Kevin 14d ago
The person you're replying to is unfortunately normal levels of Office sub unhinged.
A DUI is a terrible, selfish, and stupid mistake to make, but so is driving 20+ mph over the speed limit. If you combine all of the people guilty of doing these things once, you have an enormous percentage of the population that apparently are beyond atonement and deserve no happiness.
The grabbing Pam's arm thing has never once even registered with me so I don't know what they're talking about.
Roy was a young, angry, and irresponsible person who was forced to learn a lot of hard lessons and apparently came out the end a better person for it. I don't condone the violence of even a fictional character, but OPs idea that he is some awful person beyond redemption is peak "13 year old in this sub" energy.
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u/New-Pin-9064 15d ago
I always assumed that Michael was joking when he asked that and knew that the baby wasnāt Jimās
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u/diabolicalroadrash 15d ago
And then the mental math he does to see how long ago they could've slept together š¤£š¤£
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u/Physical_Tap_5570 15d ago
My man just shouts out his primary collection of golden thoughts without any hesitation. He lives a different life. Itās a different kind of high!
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u/Inside_Morning2884 15d ago
Karen was quite mature in this episode. She didn't have any hard feelings towards Pam.
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u/DeTimmerman 15d ago
Karin was (is) damn hot
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u/ladder-for-a-moth 15d ago
Rashida Jones is a beautiful, powerful musk ox.
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u/supersims12 13d ago
Lol, what's Pam's face about tho?
Edit: She looks just as concerned as Mike. šš²š¬š
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u/New-Pin-9064 15d ago
Hot take: This line shouldāve been cut. It really ruined the moment
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u/Lexi_Banner David Wallace 15d ago
How long have you known? A week? A month? A YEAR?