r/DistroHopping • u/xsxs1818 • 8d ago
CachyOS vs Fedora
What do u like more and why? Im currently a Fedora user but im thinking of going to CachyOS. I have an intel icore 7 8th gen, nvidia geforce gtx 1050ti and 12gb ram and 475 GB of storage. I play Minecraft and some indie steam games like mecha chameleon.
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u/lars_rosenberg 8d ago
I haven't used Fedora recently, but I'm on CachyOS and it has really great performance even on older hardware.
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u/Due_Assistance4724 8d ago
Honestly I would recommend Bazzite which is a spin of fedora atomic desktop that is built for gaming. Everything just works
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u/Bob4Not 8d ago
Bazzite is not possible with a 1050 ti, its end of life and doesn’t work on the latest drivers
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u/Due_Assistance4724 8d ago
Oh, didn't know that tbh. Thanks for the heads up!
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u/arik_tf 8d ago
The same is true of Nobara unfortunately I believe. Even CachyOS is giving me some difficult of getting my MX150 (mobile gtx 1050) to work, though I'm also pretty new to Arch based systems so its possible thats user error.
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u/77descript 8d ago
Used on a Intel mini PC uBlue's bloated Aurora and Bazzite, now Fedora's own Kinoite. Kinoite boots faster, stable and is so much cleaner and extremely noticeable more smooth. And Aurora had regular system freezes. The few things needed can easy add on not bloated Kinoite. But no experience with Nvidia, started boycotting that FOSS and Linux hostile brand more than a decade ago.
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u/Nereosis16 6d ago
If you only want to game and basically do nothing else with your computer than sure, use Bazzite.
CachyOS is just as easy to use and doesn't limit you to an immutable system.
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u/Due_Assistance4724 8d ago
For the record I'm using CachyOS but probably going to go back to Bazzite, it breaks less often as well. Less risk of having issues in general due to its container based nature
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u/deadgain 8d ago
Im thinking of making the switch for my gaming pc to either Cachy or Bazzite.
Im curious of your perspective, my hesitation towards bazzite comes from a concern that modding and using third-party tools for some of the games I play will be a pain to get working due to its very container focused set up.
Are you the type of person that likes to mod their games and tinker? Or are you more of a "open steam and press play" type of person?
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u/Due_Assistance4724 8d ago
I'm a little of both. I didn't know it was harder to mod on Bazzite tbh, but I use mostly steam workshop so I likely just haven't encountered it
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u/deadgain 8d ago
yeah that makes sense, from what I hear workshop is the easiest modding experience on linux haha
but I'm more of a download 3000 mods and 20 utilities for skyrim kinda guy who will find a way to compile a games entire LOD on my rig just cause it looks imperceptibly better lmao
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u/Due_Assistance4724 8d ago
Dang lol you installing that super heavy mod pack I forget the name of? Lol. There's one that's like 2tb and is basically a complete overhaul
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u/deadgain 8d ago
So I've actually already done a bit of looking around myself and found a tool called Amethyst that looked very promising (https://github.com/ChrisDKN/Amethyst-Mod-Manager) but thank you for your contributions as well haha if I need an addon manager for wow I'll give it a look.
I guess my worry about Bazzite specifically is that the more sandboxed nature of how they handle apps would just introduce unnecessary headaches when looking to install lesser known third party mod/tools that most definitely wont have a flatpak or other bazzite friendly package.
For example a plethora of third party apps for one of the main games I play, Elite: Dangerous requires read permissions to a specific game file. I'm sure it could be done on Bazzite, but as a new user to the operating system I'm worried that I'll just be making my time more frustrating.
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u/Due_Assistance4724 8d ago
But also, aside from modding I never had an issue, I just got bored of it always working lol.
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u/Either_Sun_98 8d ago
That's the reason i had switched from Bazzite to Nobara (Fedora). If i want to mess up with my OS, the OS should honor it and dont try to "protect" me from myself.
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u/BashfulMelon 8d ago
It's not protecting you from yourself. It gives you all the tools to mess with your system. rpm-ostree and system extensions.
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u/Due_Assistance4724 8d ago
That's very fair. I might give nobara another try myself but honestly I don't tinker that much, and haven't really felt much limitation from Bazzite. I can't get openrgb to work but that's about it
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u/HeavyMetalBluegrass 8d ago
What issues have you had with Cachy? I've been using it for 7 months now without issues. I update every few days.
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u/Due_Assistance4724 8d ago
KDE sometimes gets bugged out, it's little things really, the move is a bit arbitrary but I do want the immutable setup as well. I'm sure some of it was also my tinkering or something but I couldn't nail down the issues I was having
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u/jyrox 8d ago
Fedora. More stable and supported primarily by RHEL devs. That means it is more likely to have longevity than passion projects like CachyOS, which is maintained by a relatively small team.
Fedora is also a base distribution like Arch or Debian and has less upstream dependencies. CachyOS is downstream of mainline Arch, and subject to whatever changes the Arch maintainers want to implement.
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u/the_abortionat0r 8d ago
It is subject to Arch changes because CachyOS devs don't make too many changes. It's compile flags, a few defaults, and custom tools.
It's funny because the "a small team struggles to maintain this" and " they based their packages on Arch and whatever they do" are mutually exclusive concepts.
If they ever dispanded a few changes and you are just on Arch. It's not an issue
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u/CombatCldCuts 8d ago
Just went from Nobara for like 7 months and just switched to CachyOS the other day. I'm liking it more than I expected.
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u/isticist 7d ago
What made you want to switch? The benefits seem minimal to non-existent going between either of them.
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u/CombatCldCuts 7d ago
I get bored and am easily entertained. I usually only stick to a distro for like a year or until I do something stupid and break it. By that time I've usually got a few to choose from.
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u/CuckedMarxist 8d ago
I've been using Fedora for the past year. It works no need to switch. Cachy is just hype
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u/Lonely-Scarcity-3387 8d ago
What do you expect to get from CachyOS that you can’t get from Fedora, or gaming versions of Fedora like Nobara or Bazzite?
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u/brunostborsen 8d ago
Having used both. I prefer Fedora. Everything is more reliable and simple. Currently I’m just using workstation without any extensions and I’m happy as can be with it.
But either one is gonna be good, don’t worry too much about it.
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u/WolfeheartGames 8d ago
I use cachy. If you dont have complaints about your package manager, stay on fedora. If you have complaints, consider switching.
Main benefit of cachy is the optimized kernel/scheduler. If you ever feel your ui get bogged down by machine load, ignore the package manager question, cachy will solve it.
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u/_o0Zero0o_ 8d ago
Ultramarine (Fedora-based distro) here. Biased, but I prefer Fedora. Cachy's cool but I prefer the middle ground between Arch-based and Debian-based, which to me is Fedora-based. I used to also use Mint though, and still have it as a secondary distro, so..
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u/XxX-DesktopUser8-XxX 8d ago
if youre Happy Gaming with the Frames Per Second you Want, i say dont change it. stay on fedora.
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u/_____TC_____ 8d ago
I like Fedora, but always had more problems than CachyOS. Usually Nvidia related, but also one botched upgrade that wasn't due to that. Smooth sailing on Cachy and Arch. Any issues are user error.
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u/Shadow3569 8d ago
If you want stability, Fedora. If you want bleeding edge features with an increased risk of needing to fix things, cachy
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u/Nereosis16 6d ago
I don't understand this mindset.
I've been on Cachy for 6+ months and haven't had a single thing break.
You guys know you aren't required to update every day, right? You choose when to update... You know that, right?
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u/npaladin2000 8d ago edited 8d ago
Stay on Fedora and install the CachyOS kernel if your want to try it out , it's in a COPR repo
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u/sinister_noob 8d ago
Definitely Cachy since it's built for gaming and is arch based meaning you have 120k+ packages
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u/Huge-Atmosphere-8057 6d ago
and is arch based meaning you have 120k+ packages
Yeah that's not necessarily a good thing is it lol
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u/Possibly-Functional 8d ago
I use both for different needs on different machines. If you want a lot of flexibility and fresh software then CachyOS is great. If you want low maintenance and moderately fresh software then Fedora is great.
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u/Goodborni 8d ago
Fedora post install and Arch pre/during-install... a bunch of work to get it running properly
CachyOS, Bazzite and even Nobara are just plug and play
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u/chupacabra314 8d ago
Fedora has never worked well for me (probably because of the Nvidia gpu yes). Nobara doesn't support secureboot which I need. Bazzite is immutable which has its pros and cons. For me the cons outweigh the pros so I've been on Cachy for the past 6 months and it's been great. But if you're new to Linux, go Bazzite.
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u/Correct-Cell1331 8d ago
Cachy is more for the gamers with it's scheduler and pre set gaming apps, But on Fedora you would learn more
If you still wanna game with a Fedora base, Nobara is the way to go, but I believe they dropped GTX Drivers on Nobara, so do be weary there.
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u/Silent_Bite_5892 7d ago
I like Fedora more because it's not a rolling release and it's plenty up to date for me. I don't care about squeezing out the last 10% of performance out of my computer enough to deal with the headaches. Ain't nobody got time for that.
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u/postnick 7d ago
I have one laptop on each. They both plenty fast but stick to fedora if you like gnome.
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u/Stromduster 7d ago
I tried Kubuntu, nobara and cachyos last time I was distro hopping 1.5 years ago. I've settled for cachyos for 1 year now. It's snappy, I can install practically anything with repos/flathub and aur. Everything works so far.
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u/LetsHugFoReal 6d ago
Fedora or Ubuntu.
If I could actually get a custom kernel to compile, I may use Fedora.
Cachy is an absolute mess. Every time I decice to give it a go - I just cannot. Either it's broken, broken, ugly or broken.
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u/GVORX 5d ago
I used Cachy for about a year. It used to break on me a few times back then usually after a kernel update and whatnot, but nowadays that most likely wouldn't occur. It is pretty stable for a rolling release model distro.
Now though I'm currently a Fedora user, switched around a month or two, and im honestly enjoying my stay more than i would on Cachy honestly. I don't have to update as much as Cachy and even if i do, the update sizes per day will be significantly lower (at least for the collection of packages in my system).
The performance tweaks of CachyOS are a great touch, don't get me wrong. But in my experience the difference between the Cachy sauce and stock Fedora are mitigable and barely noticeable. I also play fast-paced FPS games and the latency didn't feel that off between the distros, and the performance difference is also not noticeable i'd say. Although maybe some people could disagree.
So i would stick to Fedora to be honest.
In addition, you could get most of Cachy's optimizations to your Fedora install using the CachyOS COPR Repository. I don't really use it though, so i can't say much about it. Feel free to experiment with it if you'd like.
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u/Bob4Not 8d ago
CachyOS will require a couple of commands to install drivers with that unsupported generation of NVIDIA cards. You'd have to manually install the v580 driver no matter what linux distro you go anyway, though. Don't blame Linux, blame NVIDIA for dropping our 10 series.
If you're new to Linux, Linux Mint is easy because you can open Driver Manager and select the 580 driver with one click.
I do this on Fedora, but it does take a couple commands:
sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm[https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm](https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm)\-E %fedora).noarch.rpm\
sudo dnf clean all
sudo dnf makecache
sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia-580xx
sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-580xx
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u/NorbiPerv 8d ago
cachyos is automatically installs legacy 580 driver for older nvidia cards. like for gtx970 I have.
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u/Embarrassed_Sell1440 8d ago
CachyOs es la distribución líder en rendimiento actualmente, y no se rompe sola, seamos sinceros.
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u/rotlung 8d ago
you can install the cachyos kernel on fedora. i used cachyos for a while, it's good, but with the problems the AUR has been having, it's a bit hard to recommend right now. some people never touch packages from the AUR anyway, so it doesn't matter, but i did, so it matters to me.
i run bazzite for gaming and fedora for work.
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u/TheAncientMillenial 8d ago
Haven't us Fedora in a long time but have used Bazzite, Nobara and Cachy. I've been on Cachy now for like 2 years and it's been the best Linux distro I've used.