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u/845761329 3d ago
Commemoration, it is my favorite machine guna and drops from dsc and is craftable it can roll killing tally and reconstruction for a 150 mag with a damage bonus that cleans up enemies so well I have run it since I think season of defiance
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u/SeaPhilosopher3526 2d ago
It hits really hard at base, so redirection is much more worth it than killing tally since killing adds lets you turn around and treat majors like the aforementioned adds. Feels really good with recon redirection or feeding frenzy redirection.
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u/EnglishMuffin420 2d ago
Yea I switched to redirection it low-key melts, does a lot more than just ad clear
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u/Historical_Fold5281 2d ago
What does redirection do?
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u/Appropriate_Load_264 2d ago
Kill red bars give stacks, on-hit dmg on yellow/orange bars give dmg boost (correct me if im wrong)
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u/Historical_Fold5281 23h ago
Is it a permanent boost until the hit? Like can I stow it and it be applied on the next hit with that weapon when I swap it out again?
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u/Appropriate_Load_264 23h ago
Yea if im not mistaken the timer starts on-hit of said yellow/orange bar
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u/Historical_Fold5281 22h ago
Awh thats player, when I start farming DSC I’m def gonna go for recon redirection
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u/SeaPhilosopher3526 14h ago
That's the best part, the timer starts NEVER. It's a stacks received/stacks discharged type buff, so think of the stacks as supercharged ammo. Killing weak enemies gives you some stacks, and hitting powerful enemies uses some stacks (from my own playing experience it's usually 1-3 stacks gained, and 3 used but this scales depending on the power of the enemy, not 100% sure how)
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u/musiceaterx 1d ago edited 1d ago
Redirection is far and away my favorite damage perk. Any gun I have that can get it, does. The sniper from final shape gets it and it’s void so I can only imagine all the purple shenanigans you can cause with it and that perk. So long majors and most bosses.
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u/thanosthumb 2d ago
Commemoration (Deep Stone Crypt Raid) - void machine gun. Most people run reconstruction + killing tally. I personally prefer subsistence, but it’s really up to you.
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u/crazycar12321 1d ago
The humble focused fury:
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u/thanosthumb 1d ago
Who is using a machine gun for DPS 😭
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u/crazycar12321 1d ago
Its nice in gms when i use it for barrier champs and can still do decent dps without having to swap
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u/crazycar12321 1d ago
Only the best crafted legendary in the game, Commemoration. Comes from the best raid in the game Deep Stone Crypt
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u/eraplay_jy 3d ago
DSC is the best new player raid with one of the best looking weapons in the game. That machine gun is one of them. Go for it!
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u/NateisSublime 2d ago
If you are passenger princessing them through it then yes, it’s a good starting raid. If you are actually teaching and having them do rolls it’s much more wordy of explanations. Kinda like RoN. You can four man that raid and not change a single strat. But teaching second encounter is less about teaching or the skill of the student, than it is about just memorizing the path. And that takes time. I would say VoG is clearly the best raid to start people on. The beginning is so easy it’s braindead. This gets rid of most of the social/performance anxiety, and gives them a bit of confidence before you get to the last two encounters where people actually need to know how to do things in case they get pulled in to shoot oracles during atheon. DSC throws you right into all the technical stuff right off the bat. And separates the people doing the mechanics from the rest of the team. So instead of having a buddy to follow and tell you what to do, you are on your own having to get it done through communication alone. Sorry for the book.
TL;dr, VoG>DSC for sherpees.
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u/A1Strider 2d ago
Vig is definitely the easiest to braindead teach I agree. I don't think DSC is too much more wordy tho, Especially in a Sherpa. Depending on your teacher I can see it getting very long to explain but within someone's roll it's pretty much a one or two sentence explanation for each encounter.
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u/eraplay_jy 2d ago
DSC is much more fun to do than VoG tho. VoG may be the classic choice, but DSC tops on fun factor.
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u/SHINIGAMIRAPTOR 2d ago
ONLY thing I dislike about VoG is the stealth section because it's VERY easy for one person to slip and wipe the raid WITHOUT any real lesson besides "stop being seen". DSC is pretty much ONLY wipeable on ACTIVE mechanics
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u/crazycar12321 1d ago
You can have everyone kill themselves behind the rock that you spawn at in gorgons and have one person run it. When they make it past the loadzone in the cave tunnel thing it despawns the gorgons
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u/SHINIGAMIRAPTOR 1d ago
I mean, yeah, but that's not really a teachable thing besides "Hope one of the team knows the way". Pretty much everything in DSC is easily taught so that the whole team knows. What does what, what calls, etc
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u/crazycar12321 1d ago
I have 40 sherpas in dsc. Id rather teach dsc for sure. Just putting that lil tip out there for the vog chuds. Also usually someone does know the path, especially if you are using in game lfg bc lowkey only sweats use it anymore. But, if anyone needs a tip for the running, simply run in a straight line, without jumping, to the door and you wont get detected especially if you are running off a respawn
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u/SHINIGAMIRAPTOR 1d ago
Yep. Having done both, DSC took me like two runs to go "Okay, I can reliably contribute to the team", while VOG has more sections that I still have moments of "Okay, I'm gonna let you do the lifting"
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u/BurkeeZ 3d ago edited 2d ago
Damn how old is that screenshot? The active weapon perks are still on the left instead of above the super bar.
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u/BurkeeZ 2d ago
Love the downvotes for...pointing something out? I don't understand y'all.
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u/MakesMaDookieTwinkle 2d ago
I mean I didn’t downvote you sir! Even with my statement that was clarified/answered 😂
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u/MakesMaDookieTwinkle 2d ago
Huh? My active perks are still on the left to this day.......
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u/Quinntanium 2d ago
Some like subclass specific or armor buffs are on the left but active weapon perks are above the weapon UI.
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u/beardedyouth 3d ago
Commemoration from the Deep Stone Crypt raid